LGBTQIA* Underground Railway

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by mswan, Jun 25, 2023.

  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    That's right. It's stupidity. They're stupid for comparing themselves to slaves and acting as if they have to be smuggled out of their current state to go to another. They're free to go. In fact, they'll be encouraged to move to a deep blue state...lol
     
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  2. JohnHamilton

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    Probably not because they would have to compliment a Nazi. They might see some merit, but they could stomach the source.
     
  3. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Hey they turned on Russia like you wouldn't believe possible after damn near a century of kissing the ass of tyrants that make ole Adolph look like a candyass piker.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It’s always just about the children right?

    https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/...treatment-on-religious-moral-grounds-16823343

    This law has nothing to do with children

    Let me guess, they should still “just move”?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No law allows teachers or administrators to get involved with sex change treatment that I am aware of. Have a source for that because that would be concerning.

    The only thing I have seen is them saying they will allow a child to socially transition at school (clothing and pronouns) without altering the parents.
     
  6. garyd

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    Religious moral grounds would be performing unnecessary surgeries on children even at the behest of the Munchausen's sufferers that won't their children maimed so they can have another 15 minutes of fame or to spite an ex spouse or some other bizzare reason. It has nothing to do with treating anything life threatening.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The issue with your horse analogy is that what species you are is determined by genetics, what sex you are is determined by hormones. We all start out as female. I don’t understand what it is so hard for you people to understand that sometimes things don’t go right, even genetically.

    I agree that being transgender shouldn’t be “pushed” but passing laws to arrest them or deny them medial treatment untenable and is based on either misunderstanding or hate.

    As long as gay people are a banned topic or they can be denied entry to publicly funded institutions then no, the war isn’t over.

    Gender affirmation is the treatment in many of these cases.
     
  8. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s completely false
    There has already been a case of an EMS worker denying care on site — explain that.
     
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    Don't forget Houston and San Antonio

    Are you really acting surprised if you delete all the places where people live then the crime rate falls?

    That’s how statistics work bro.

    Vacant land cannot commit crimes — and it shouldn’t be allowed to vote either.
     
  10. mswan

    mswan Well-Known Member

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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don’t think being able to be denied healthcare is playing into their decision to leave?

    It interesting when you attempted to attribute these medical denials to children it was worthy of discussion, glee even. But now that it’s actually to everyone you no longer want to discuss it.

    This is what you party stands for, denying medical treatment to people you hate.
     
  12. AmericanNationalist

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    I don't hate these people,and I don't think they should be denied care(in fact, the denial of care is a part of larger health care costs.) Where I disagree with progressives is how to pay for it, but I think that's a different type of disagreement. I also don't see myself as a conservative at large though.

    When it comes to the transexual issue and minors, I think the long term impact on surgeries and on their identity is crucial and the only law I would have, is that such surgeries and irreplaceable things be done when they're adults, when they have the mental makeup to consciously make that decision.

    They are not consciously making these decisions, they are being suggested to make these decisions. And like in any thing else involving consent, that's a moral wrong.
     
  13. mswan

    mswan Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure it does, that's why moving is a good choice for them.
     
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    Americans pay more per capita for healthcare than any other nation by a significant margin while receiving lower results. The only option we have is a public option where everyone gets a base level of care at no cost to the end user and allowing individuals to purchase insurance to go above that. This has shown to bring down costs across the board.

    While surgery is very very rare it shouldn’t be allowed on minors, I agree.

    I think pushing children into any ideology is wrong, be that trans ideology or religious.
     
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    Smartest comment you have made to date
     
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    mswan Well-Known Member

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    :razz:
     
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    So again, do you support denying medical treatment to Americans based on animus? Is that really what the right has become?

    Will you be so uncaring when white people or Christians are being denied care? And before you answer you need to realize both of those groups will be minorities in many of our lifetimes.
     
  18. JohnHamilton

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    Yep, let the groomers and advocates screw around with young kid’s minds while keeping the parents in the dark. That is dead wrong.
     
  19. FatBack

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    I heard they have a fire sale over at artist.com for a broad brush. You might want to pick up a few spares while you're at it.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I asked you to provide your source.
    I am guessing one doesn’t exist?
     
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    I haven’t seen anyone on the hard right be against it.
    And if they are it’s not enough to make them reconsider support of politicians pushing it.

    Sometimes a broad brush is accurate

    Do you agree with medical refusals? Will it change your vote?
     
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    It depends what sort of medical you're talking about. If you mean giving children puberty blockers and hormones.... That's not medical treatment, that's abuse
     
  23. JohnHamilton

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    The sources are the parents in the news who are pulling their kids out of the public schools because of the crap.

    You just implicitly admitted that screwing around with kid’s heads without the parents’ knowledge is wrong. So what is your argument?
     
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    I have already posted what type of medical denials I am speaking of. The one passed in FL will allow any medical professional or insurance company the ability to deny care based on moral or religious objections without penalty.

    Feel free to look it up.

    Do you support it and will it change your vote?

    Should a Muslim or Indian doctor be allowed to deny all services to a white person unless it is classified as emergency care?
     
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  25. cd8ed

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    A source is a hyperlink. Not more of your opinion

    Try again or would you like to retract your prior statement
     

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