LIFE?

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love to ponder the existence of life outside the Earth and the Cassini mission has me a bit excited. Between methane lakes and water Ice mountains on Titan and an Ocean with geysers on Enceladus I put the odds at 50/50.

    What say you?
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I bet my life that life is ubiquitous. Its real simple math. If life can happen here then it can happen elswhere. The universe is so vast the human mind cant comprehend it. The odds were are the only life is 0. I think its everwhere in forms we dont even understand yet.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    There might be life on one of the icy moons in the solar system, but they need food, and I don't buy the hydrogen is a food source rhetoric.
     
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    I agree. Life may exist in forms we would have a hard time recognizing as life. Life needs energy, but perhaps there are ways of obtaining that energy rather than eating another species.

    I think this universe creates life, and that it what it does. As it creates stars, planets, moons, etc. It has its own evolution.
     
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    I think we should figure more of own planet. Maybe become technologically advanced more.
     
  6. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hopefully you know that Sulfur is the food source for animals in the freezing pitch black of our ocean bottom.
     
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    exactly a few years back, this habitat was deemed impossible for life....until....we got cameras there, then we see sulfur vents crawling with life. Europa, titan, and the rest are in my opinion teeming with life. And thats just in our fantastically small solar systems back yard. Imagine the forms of life out there just within our mediocre sized galaxy
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you're expecting tulip-lipped tubules?
     
  9. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not "Expect" anything....I hope and imagine.
     
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    Do you even know what he/She is talking about?
     
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    Informative, I even googled it and didn't get a quick hit, but that's what I thought you were talking about some single cell animal or what ever ..


    But that's what I think the OP and I was thinking of not E.T.
     
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    In the infinity of space, it seems likely to me that there are other planets like earth. Life on earth has been evolutionary. It could be that life on other earth-like planets is less evolved, or it could be more evolved. Anything is possible.
     
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    I tend to agree. And if Saturn's moons are a bust, there is always Europa orbiting around Jupiter.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes...I would be a rather ignorant individual not to.
     
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    What about nitrogen?
    You already brought up Sulfur.
    Some Iron and salts would be nice too.

    Here is a candidate
    tardigrade-2.jpg

    Life doesn't have to evolve de novo there.
    It could be seeded.​
     
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    Id say the odds of life in our solar system that developed entirely independent from our developement are slim to none.

    Id say the odds are substantially higher for life in our solar system to have developed at some point that intersects with our own developement to be substantially higher.

    Id say the odds of life existing elsewhere in the universe as a whole is even higher still, nearly a statistical guarantee.
     
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    Anyone who believes the scenario of how life started on Earth must also believe the same can happen anywhere in the Universe...until righteousness and arrogance takes over. A better question to ask is 'why' would Earth be unique in the Universe of trillions and trillions of planets to be the 'only' planet to harbor some form of life?
     
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    It is possible, we just don't know about the probable. Yet.
     
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    Probability is the reason I allow myself to imagine. I cannot imagine that we are the only thing out of trillions of galaxies and trillions of stars within them and quintillions of planets with even more moons that manages to think.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    HeII....if this can exist here, who knows what is out there.
     
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    Odds of other life in universe? 100%

    Odds of other life in the solar system? Since we know chemosynthesis exists the odds went up by a few orders of magnitude, but my swag is much less than 5o%
     
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    Well, it looks like some of that other life in this universe is not only out there, but is now here...



    And it looks like some of it might be malevolent. According to the gov't insiders who have talked with DeLong.

    Looks like Reagan was ahead of his time, although he may have been briefed on it, which would explain his remarks.

    I think congress needs to be informed, so they stop trying to create enemies here of humans. For we will surely need russia if these beings ever attack. So far, all they have done is to activate in russia a launch sequence of their nukes, and here they have shut down our ability to launch in numerous ICBM sites.

    So you guys can stop thinking of the possibility of intelligent life in this universe and get ready to accept they are here, and have been here for at least as long as we have. Given substance to what our ancestors thought were gods.
     
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    Yep it is certain now. And some of them appear to be malevolent.



    So the unidentified aerial threats are real, and these people who said they saw ET craft are not nuts.

    It will be interesting to watch how MSM handles this as well as the naysayers. To me it looks like the gov't have been slowly leaking out the truth for years, and now there is a bigger effort to do that via DeLong and his cast of retired gov't, DOD, Skunkworks and intel people. Who were suggested to him by an active general inthe military. DeLong is ever covering for our gov't in that they did not disclose because they were wor king too hard to figure out what we were dealing with. Sure, right. LOL
     
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    Will Tom DeLonge make something of his To The Stars Academy??? I don't know, but I do want to see something solid before I take them seriously.

    A lot of this will depend on getting funding and also how the dark sector takes his ideas. They will need connections to take it to the next step. People IN the dark industry, not just the retired guys they have now, I think.
     

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