Liz shines a bright light on Faux.

Towards the end of the interview with Baier Cheney emphasizes the point Faux has an unique obligation to make sure its audience understands the truth about the election. She said it for two reasons. One does not have to read between the lines to take her meaning. One, an acknowledgement of the power Faux has in forming the opinions and beliefs of Repubs. (had Faux not been spewing lies and disinformation for 30 years this country would be a very, very, very different place) Secondly, because she is aware of the role Faux has played in perpetuating Trump's Big Lie. Here is graphic evidence.



Unsurprisingly, the further Right on the spectrum the news source is the greater the chance the consumer of that source believes in the delusional myth Trump has promoted. Given Faux's standing as the most watched conservative cable station the megaphone they have given him to spread his lie represents one of the greatest failings of journalistic practices.........ever........considering how much damage it has done to the perception of election security.

Trump tried a coup in broad daylight — and Fox had his back.

That seditious conspiracy to shatter the American democratic system relied on the impermeability of the right-wing information bubble. Trump needed his supporters, many of whom get their information almost solely from the elaborate disinformation network of partisan media outlets that Republican leaders propped up in place of mainstream outlets, to believe that the election had been rigged against him.

Fox and its associates did everything they could to support Trump’s autocratic maneuvers. In the two weeks after media outlets called the race for Biden, Fox personalities questioned the results of the election or pushed conspiracy theories about it nearly 800 times. They put the credibility of the network behind deranged lies about fraud plucked from the internet fever swamps, beaming batshit fantasies out to a huge national audience. It worked -- polls following the election showed a majority of Republicans believed that the election was stolen from Trump.

But hosts, contributors, and guests went further than simply lying to their viewers -- they pushed for action. They attacked Republican state officials for being insufficiently committed to Trump’s scheme; called for the arrests of election workers; suggested that Republican state legislators in states Trump lost should “appoint a clean slate of electors” who support him; promoted fake Trump electoral slates for supposedly keeping Trump’s “legal options open”; suggested a “do-over” election as “the only remedy”; called for congressional investigations; endorsed a lawsuit by Republican state attorneys general asking the Supreme Court to throw out results in four states Biden won; urged Republican governors not to certify unfavorable results; and denounced Republican members of Congress for “destroying the Constitution” by voting to count the electoral votes.
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-news-loaded-gun-aimed-american-democracy

Before responding with reflexive remarks making false comparisons to liberal media I would request that Trump devotees spend some time reading the entire, irrefutable, MM article. Then take a moment to ask yourselves how, as conservatives, you allowed allegiance to a political philosophy to translate to devotion to a huckster.

 

This is going to cost FoxNews some more viewers.

 

Lol I’m curious as to how you viewed CNN and MSNBC who were arguing that trump was going to be the one to commit fraud and that they weren’t going to concede under any circumstances because any win by trump would be considered fraudulent.

Oh I guess that was okay right?

Nevertheless until the court cases are decided and the audits are concluded, not you, NOR ANYONE ELSE can assert there was “no fraud”. So continuously doing so only belies the lack of confidence you have that it wasn’t fraudulent. Otherwise you would acknowledge you don’t know. But you don’t because rather than actually allow the fraud to be detected you and your ilk want to browbeat the other side into submission so they stop looking.

 

The world is going to end on June 12th. Send money.

The world is going to end on July 16th. Send money.

The world is going to end on Sept. 10th. Send money.

Such sweet rubes Trumpers are.

 

SAys some Id known by { Lee Altwater }. Can't even bring oneself
{ if you are a oneself } to Post { Fox } not { Faux }.
Day by Day Fox is gaining viewers while those at CNN and MSNBC
are turning into Real Verifiable Clowns.But then real Clowns don't rely
exclusively on being pesky Liars and Unamerican.
What's yer excuse.

 

I'd be glad to comment just as soon as you provide proof of your absurd allegation.

 

Yet for all of those claims and even with the Republican Party’s concentrated focus on the idea during the past six months, there remains no credible evidence that any significant fraud occurred. There’s lots of putative evidence, sure, random affidavits in which nonexperts allege weirdness or claims about ballot nefariousness that is quickly debunked. But even after months and months and months of formal and informal scrutiny, there have been no demonstrated examples of systemic efforts to commit voter fraud.

In fact, a review of local news reports shows there aren’t many examples of even individual voter fraud. By our count, there have been only 16 incidents in which someone has faced criminal charges stemming from their attempt to vote illegally. This includes instances in which it isn’t clear whether a ballot was cast but excludes failed efforts to obtain absentee ballots.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...zen-charged-cases-voter-fraud-since-election/

Please provide your evidence in refutation of the information above.

 

That is simply evidence that the proper audits which review every aspect of the voting process were not done. It certainly doesn’t prove that no fraud exists.

 

Would you agree with that statement if someone said this about Trump..."That is simply evidence that the proper investigations which review every aspect of his businesses were not done. It certainly doesn’t prove that no crimes were committed"?

 

Without a doubt.

If we haven’t investigated something fully we can’t assert that no fraud exists. Or crime for that matter. That’s like saying there’s no crime by this criminal mafia family because we haven’t proven they’re engaging in anything criminal. Does that mean it doesn’t exist or you didn’t investigate them properly? It could mean both in fact. But we don’t know without the proper investigation.

 

I've seen this argument before. You claim, without evidence, there was fraud. You cling to that claim by demanding audits be done despite all the recounts, audits, investigations, and court cases that have completely failed to reveal fraud of any consequence.

I'm not going down that bottomless rabbit hole.

 

There is plenty of EVIDENCE. There is simply no PROOF. I suggest you look up the difference between those two words.

 

Did anyone bother to Inform you before engaging on a Message Board.
A Place for Opinions mostly.NOT Proof.
You apparently a wee bit confused Mr.Altwater.In a court of Law
Evidence and Proof is what is Presented.
So it's nice to know that yer kind exists.The Proof in the Puddin' bunch.
Proof Proof Proof ... all day long.Into the night.Then back again
Tomorrow and Tomorrow.
I think yer more glad Not to comment.Because we all know how Lazy
the left be.Like how Kamala and Joe just too doggone busy to go and
see for themselves that the Border Is Open.
Like Joe Promised when Campaigning { if that's what one considers
Campaigning }.

 

Imma post this again just for you.

http://wiseenergy.org/Energy/Election/2020_Election_Cases.htm

“According to the report, there are a total of 80 election fraud lawsuits, 34 of which have been withdrawn, consolidated with other similar cases, or "dismissed due to legal technicalities such as lack of standing, timing, or jurisdiction." These dismissed cases indicate that the judges in charge never even looked at the evidence of election fraud, as the evidence was not allowed to be presented in court. These are the most questionable cases because contrary to media reports, there is actually evidence, the judges just refused to hear it.

In addition, 25 cases are currently ongoing, while 21 election lawsuits heard in court have been adjudicated, meaning that the arguments have been heard, the evidence presented, and a formal ruling has been served. Interestingly, the findings of the summary study show that out of the 21 cases, President Trump has actually won 14. In addition, Droz notes that "Only three of these lawsuits materially dealt with voter illegalities (citizens voting twice, votes from deceased persons, etc.). Interestingly, all three of these cases are still open."”

You wanna try again?

 

There are plenty of ALLEGATIONS. There is simply no PROOF. I suggest you look up the difference between those two words.

 

recounts, audits, investigations, and court cases that have completely failed to reveal fraud of any consequence.

Do the math. How many fraudulent votes need to be disqualified to make the Orange Fraud the winner?

 

Why? You have failed, miserably, to make your case.

 

So, you do not believe there is any such thing as a "witch hunt" in legal terms? You are ok with more and more and more digging until something, anything, is found?

 

How many Democrat Politicians Boycotted Trump's Inauguration.
How long did it take the Newspaper of record to print a Headline
- The Campaign to Impeach President Trump has begun -
Matea Gold { Washington Post } Jan.20 2017 mere minutes after Trump
was sworn-in.

 

there is no evidence of fraud. every single investigation to date has shown you that.

 

You such a redundant Drag.Plus this is a Message Board not a
closing statement at Trial.
Where did you learn't this cruddy style of Message Boarding.

 

which has been refuted. trump won 1 court case in PA, which moved observers from 20 feet to 6 feet.

 

What exactly is your point? Law suits filed in the wrong jurisdiction and without standing are bogus law suits.

You ever lose your keys? How long do you look before you just go and make another pair?

You're looking for a ghost.

 

Evidence in a court case is proof. The two are interchangeable.

There is no evidence of fraud. The evidence does prove something, like the screenshot of deleted file folders. What it proves is anybody's guess. I mean, outside of the desperation and gullibility of Trump people.

 

Tone deaf bitter woman who doesn’t know how to lead.