Looks like Biden authorized the raid against his future political opponent

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    There is nothing in that letter that indicates the search and seizure was ordered by Biden, or that he was aware of it.
    There is nothing in that court document that indicates the search and seizure was ordered by or coordinated or known to Biden, or that he was aware of it.

    Here's what it does say:

    1. Nara wanted to send 15 boxes to the FBI for inspection.

    2. Trump asked an extension before shipping boxes to FBI so he could determine if there were any privileged docs.

    3. (this means the FBI contacted WH counsel in order that the...) WH Counsel granted that request.

    4. Nara informed Trump that it was going to ship the docs to the FBI as requested by the President.

    5. Trump stonewalled (that had to be true, because of #5)

    6. NARA referred the matter to the DOJ, who, in turn, got a grand jury to subpoena for the 15 boxes.

    7. Trump contacted DOJ to meet his people at MAL to comply with the subpoena.

    8. When the FBI arrived (to allow Trump to fulfill his subpoena ) Trump's people turned over documents.

    9. Later, DOJ determined that not all the documents requested were turned over, as promised.

    10. That's when the DOJ got a magistrate judge to sign a warrant to further search MAL for the missing documents, because, as Bill Barr stated, Team Trump was "jerking the DOJ around".



    Biden had NOTHING to do with ordering the search and seizure warrant. His participation early on was incidental, only.

    IF Biden had ordered that raid, or even if Biden was made aware of it, it would have been noted in the court document, and it is not.
     
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  2. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Let Trump speak for himself..
    https://truthsocial.com/

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    As more details come out, the more this is a comedy of errors of Trump's own doing. 1) Packs at the last minute just cramming everything into the closest box without rhyme or reason 2) Accidentally include classified docs in boxes of presidential papers returned to the archives 3) Turn over more classified docs and declare that was all of them without apparently knowing you had bunches more and 4) getting yourself raided because you clearly lied about it being all of them.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes there is... try reading slower.."incumbent President" in the big red area...
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    What did Trump steal? They had over a year to politely get it back, then a couple months from the vote and the raid his ****ing house:) They knew what they were and Trump technically had the right to take them and declassify them. Not like there were nuclear codes:). THAT lie got old really fast.
     
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    No, it says the WH counsel granted the FBI access to classified boxes on May 18, which was before the raid. This thread is a nothing burger.
     
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    Speaking of Truth social.

    Donald Trump’s social media company, TRUTH Social, is struggling with a host of financial, legal, and technical issues that threaten its very future. But its biggest problem, according to analysts, is something the company initially assumed would be its biggest draw: Trump himself.

    ...

    “Because TRUTH Social is an echo chamber, mainly for Trump followers, it doesn’t have the same kinds of diversity of opinion and content that make mainstream social media platforms appeal to the masses,” says Ryan Neville-Shepard, an associate professor of communication at the University of Arkansas who researches American political rhetoric. “And if it doesn’t appeal to the masses, it’s not going to be extremely profitable.”

    https://time.com/6209392/truth-soci...l&utm_term=tech_social-media&linkId=179811564
     
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    It's not 'intel', really. it's a news briefing, public information, news clippings from 'BulletinIntelligence.com', which looks like a clipping service, news aggregator tailored to client requests, sent to Biden and his family.

    So, it was sent to Biden, who is the former Veep at this juncture, or rather, it was sent to his assistant, Kathy Chung, who then forwarded it to Joe and his family.

    That's it, pretty innocent stuff, but, people on the net are trying to make hay out of it.

    My guess is that Joe is having someone aggregate news Joe is interested in and has it sent to his family.

    In fact, here is the complete copy of that email, with the BidenNewsBriefing181205.pdf attached ( as a screenshot)

    It's really nothing.


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    So, a news clipping service calls itself 'intel' and everyone has a conniption.

    Jeezus keerist, everyone needs to relax.
     
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    There must be thousands of pages of threads on the 2020 election. Trump's just repeating the same lines over and over again because it makes him lots and lots of money.
     
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    Great news that Trump has no problem if he or any of his political cronies that are under state/federal investigations get indicted before the November election.
     
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    Trump stole documents/papers/stuff that belong to the US government/citizens not him.

    Are you not familiar with all the back and forth letters between the NARA and Trump's lawyers beginning in May 2021 with the NARA asking for the return of presidential records and continuing until June 2022?

    Nuclear codes change as soon as a new president is sworn in.
     
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    When is Trump gonna release the security footage of his FBI ransacked residence? :roflol:
    Promises, promises.
     
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    So if the Dems are heads and the Reps are tails on a coin, the coin is a doubleheader. It doesn't favour the USA. It favours the highest bidder of immoral and unethical actions.
     
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    Great sleuthing and delivery as always, thank you,

    This is good news from Tristan Snell the prosecutor of Trump University.
    To use Twitter here you need an account,.
    Cannon's ruling today on the Special Master

    https://twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1566875526563856385
     
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    First prove him right.
     
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    he did not, but Trump only has Trump to blame for this, it was his actions that cause it
     
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    by your logic, Trump went after a potential candidate when going after Stormy's lawyer and taping his phone (course her lawyer was doing wrong too)
     
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    Let's have an investigation and find out Biden's involvement... it is the VP briefing... you lack the ability at trying to spin this away..
     
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    When is Joe Biden gonna release the security footage of his FBI ransacked residence?
     
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    Wrong... this has been decided in court already... Trump gets to decide what to keep..
    The president and vice president are the ultimate declassifying authority of the U.S. government and through executive orders most recently issued in 2003 by George W. Bush and Barack Obama in 2009 that specifically exempt the president and vice president from having to follow the stringent declassification procedures every other federal agency and official must follow.

    This has already been decided.. Clinton's sock drawer revealed more than Melania's underwear drawer.

    Judge Amy Jackson ruled in 2012 that a president's discretion to declare records "personal" is far-reaching and mostly unchallengeable.

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-co.../JW-v-NARA-Clinton-Tapes-transcript-01834.pdf

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    Yep, let’s let the guy with 30,000 documented lies and misleading statements during his term in office speak for himself.
    I mean he wouldn’t lie or mislead us would he?
     
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    I love how people who barely graduated high school are suddenly legal experts when it comes to defending their messiah.
     
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    Hey.... take it easy on your liberal friends... the liberal's can't help.
     

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