Lying Hillary (Per Politifact)

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  1. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    A combined 51% of Hillary Clinton's claims during her Presidential run have been either true or mostly true (108 ), with 21% considered half true (45) and 27% either mostly false, false or incredibly wrong (59).

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    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

    On the other side, a single-digit 9% of Donald Trump's claims have been either true or mostly true (16), with 14% considered half-true (24), and a staggering 76% either mostly false, false or incredible wrong (127).

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    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
     
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    So, you're trying to compare a turd, and a dbag.
     
  3. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    An informed constituency is a better constituency :thumbsup:
     
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    Everyone knows that they're both liars, hence the low approval ratings for both. Trump's being worse of course.
     
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    No, he's trying to compare someone who is generally truthful to someone who is virtually NEVER truthful. From the graphs, can you tell which is which?
     
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    And now folks have data to support their beliefs, as well as direct links to both the claims and the summaries.
     
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    1/10 statements Trump makes are true or mostly truthful. This man is a farce.

    John Wayne Gacy at his first police interrogation was probably more truthful.
     
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    Nice avatar
     
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    Yawn, shill much?

    They're both liars.
     
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    I was going to ask you the same question.

    It's pretty obvious that Trump is in a class all his own when it comes to lying. To even pretend that they're somehow equal in this category is laughable.

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    No there is really no difference. Shillary has spewed blatant lies, but that some how makes her more trustworthy than chump, who blatantly lies?

    You got some real stupid standards.
     
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    Sorry, there's an enormous difference, refer to the original post. Only posters with their partisan goggles strapped on too tight think otherwise.

    51% of Hillary's statements are true or mostly true.

    9% for the Donald.
     
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    Donald has made more "pants on fire" statements than "true/mostly true" statements. That has to be a first in the history of Politifact. Remarkable.

    Like a true psychopath, Donald lies with ease.
     
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    Do you understand what partisan is, because that perfectly explains your posts.

    My candidate only lies half the time, she's obviously more honest than the three ring circus with a hair piece. That's what you have lowered your standards too? Wow, just wow.

    Take a step back and think about that for a minute.:rolleyes:
     
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    You saw the Politifact charts, right? They make Trump look like the word 'truth' is simply not in his vocabulary.
     
  17. Think for myself

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    Should we be surprised?

    it is not as if Trump is putting forth a well thought out, cohesive, and consistent platform.
     
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    Look at it this way: If Hillary says something, you can flip a coin and you'll be right about her 'truthiness' half the time. To be truthful 9% of the time (Trump) defies all odds except to say "when he opens his mouth, bank it, he's lying".
     
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    Nobody is disagreeing that trump lies, this is your imagination convincing you that I'm trying to state otherwise.

    The fact is, that Shillary lies too. That's a fact. So, stop trying to polish a turd.
     
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    It's true that the lying, corrupt Hillary is far worse than Trump. Trump may exaggerate some, but he rarely lies. Hillary lies practically every time she opens her mouth, so there's no comparison.
     
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    Wow.

    What metrics is this statement based on? It seems counter to the reality provided in the OP.
     
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    She still lies. Have you lowered your standards to the point that there only being a 50% chance of a person lying, is acceptable in your book.

    Here, I'll make it simple. You know what a person is called, when they only tell the truth half the time?

    A (*)(*)(*)(*)ing liar.
     
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    There are matters of degree in this world and every politician since John Adams has lied. The deal is (and Politifact has shown), nobody lies like Trump. Nobody has ever lied like Trump. Nobody will ever again lie like Trump. I am happy, tho, that he revealed Cruz's daddy's complicity in the JFK murder. That was a good one.
     
  25. AmericanNationalist

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    In other words, Hillary bats around average, while Donald doesn't even care for the facts. I remember one Fox debate where they pointed out that the numbers for Trump's plan(I think it was for infrastructure), didn't fit and how he would fix that. He didn't respond with any facts lol. He just said "Look I'm great" as usual ROFL.
     

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