Major Blow to Obamacare Mandate: IRS Won't Reject Tax Returns That Don't Answer Healt

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  1. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Single adult making $75k nd says coverage too expensive?

    Based on the information you provided and any changes during the year, your estimated shared responsibility payment is:
    $0.00

    I'm pretty sure this :roflol: is what your tax guy does when you pay for his "services."
     
  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    You just said it's no longer the case. Do I not have to pay taxes anymore?

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    Nobody has to pay taxes under president trump
     
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    Careful when you use those calculators. You obviously don't know how to use it. -Single and 75k

    Even though you probably aren't using 2016 and using the default 2014 when they were phasing it in, at NO point were either 0.00 :roflol:

    Somebody was whining about Walmart in this thread. Do you work there?:confusion:
     
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    and you think the republican plan will?

    Obama's public option was what we needed, sadly we did not get it

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    what ever they replace it with, will be all on republicans, they will be to blame for all future issues as they were last to touch it

    I am happy, I want a public option like Obama wanted, until then let republicans be last to touch it

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    Why do you think there's a need to replace it?
     
  7. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, it took a while but...

    From healthcare.gov a married couple aged 60 and 50 smokers with medium healthcare usage the minimum cost for a Bronze plan (lowest coverage) is $1,146 per month (Florida). That's $13,752 per year. Now that number is about 8% of $172,000.

    This couple is not eligible for subsidies because of their income. So, again, you can dance all you want but the math is the math.
     
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    My only question is are you this obtuse? Or are you trying to be clever?
    How you get to no one has to pay taxes anymore from the apparent fact that the IRS isn't requiring proof of health insurance is beyond me.

    I'm sorry you can't seem to keep a couple of independent facts straight in your mind.
     
  9. Sam Bellamy

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    I know someone who checked the box this year. It cost him his tax return. I wonder if he can remove the check mark by amending his taxes.
     
  10. The Mello Guy

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    The OP does not say the penalty for not having insurance is gone, in sorry you can't or chose not to read the OP but there's no reason to take it out on me

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    Your best friend says the penalty is gone
     
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    Your best friend says the penalty is gone
     
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    Yes, but can someone amend their insurance coverage after facing the penalty? My guess is no, but maybe someone who does taxes knows for sure.
     
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    You are the one consistently misrepresenting the facts and I never said the penalty for not having insurance is gone. How sad that you chase your own tail around for post after post.

    "They didn't know because republicans lied and said you'd go to jail if you didn't have insurance" Here YOU are spreading a lie yourself.
    Is jail the ultimate outcome when one doesn't pay taxes? As far as I know it is. So where are republicans lying about that? Grow up.
    Just grow up!


    Another lie. Please show a little self respect and stop lying.
     
  14. The Mello Guy

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    So since the penalty still exists then you'd still go to jail for not paying. Why are you arguing if you agree?
     
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    I think it is you that needs to dance a little friskier regarding math. You claimed there is no 0.00 penalty at either level you claimed earlier for not having insurance. You even provided the site of your choice. Dance Missy. Dance. LOL!
     
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    The penalty is exacted for the prior year. Poor Dado has ventured into a netherworld above his/her pay grade. :grin:
     
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    If this is correct, then is healthcare deployed only for the healthy?
     
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    Obviously that site is a ruse and smoke screen to blow sunshine up Obamacare supporters. Trump has not said if he is blowing out preexisting conditions on any new proposed health care reforms. We don't know. But what we do know, insurance companies ain't writing new policies on azzhats who don't sign up for health care until they just found out they have aids and cancer. This isn't some new concept. lmao......
     
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    So what did you just prove? Obarry care is unaffordable! So much so that a couple 60 and 50 with a tobacco addiction can't afford or can choose financial distress opt to have that first heart attack or stroke with no insurance, I'm sure there is an up side to your argument but I can't find it :)
     
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    Oh hi! The master of misinformation, where did you go? Here's another website for you. Maybe you can understand and make this one work for you.:roflol:
    It has different values than the site you posted. But 0.00 penalty? LMAO@ U! :roflol:
    https://www.healthinsurance.org/obamacare/obamacare-penalty-calculator/
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I corrected your flawed math. Seriously Nancy. Click Start/Run and type CALC. It really is just that simple. Of course, you do know how to use a calculator, no?
     
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    People who do are not eligible for a subsidy pay whatever the price of the insurance is. In many cases those costs are "unaffordable." If such is the case, there is no penalty.

    I just showed you the math that proves it. OH, and, showed you that if you paid the penalty the screwing you got was from your tax guy.
     
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    Gee. The calculation comes out the same. Married couple with $100k income. ZERO penalty.

    So, Got Math?
     
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