Man dies after setting himself on fire in front of French employment office

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  1. Jack Napier

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    It can even be done in a small way. Let us say that you took the ten biggest cities here. Now, let us say you find ten men + women who, once it is explained to them how our own men and women are suffering due to greed, that Starbucks etc, are operating here, with a free pass. That they are using us, as a means to make money, but give little back. Now, you have your ten men, in ten cities. Each of the ten men, in the ten cities, must recruit ten like minded volunteers. Who in turn, must find ten.

    You can soon see, that within a short time, in each of your ten cities, you would have mobilised effective units.

    This would be very easy to orchesrate.

    You create a temp website, for the sole purpose. And you get one of your legion of volunteers to design a high impact flyer. You print them. You locate all of your people, at every single Starbucks (in public street), so that in all ten cities, on the same days, you have a high level presence, giving out impact flyers, to those that looked as if they could be heading in.

    A short sharp message and something else. Your people, in each of the ten cities, go to a local and independent coffee house. Get them on board, in each city, one close to each Starbucks. You explain your plans, and get them to agree to give a 'special offer', to every single customer that supports his coffee shop, rather than Starbucks, on production of the flyers.
     
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    Indeed. This incessant notion that those receiving handouts are somehow responsible for the economic woes of society, is absolute hogwash. It's the system itself and the vagaries of the market that causes unemployment in which those adversely affected have little or no control over. Social Darwinism is a repugnant concept. A large welfare state is symptomatic of civilization and progress. I suggest those that favour the ethos inherent to the Hobbesian law of the jungle and complain about the nanny state go live in somewhere like Somalia where there is no state of any kind and then try phoning for an ambulance.
     
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    They are crushing us all. They want to crush the least well off, but on top of that, they also want to crush you further, since there is no real work being created. It is a pincer movement.
     
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    Yep, that's a potential one-pronged approach that will in theory over time impact negatively on the profits of the corporations. Taken toit's logical conclusion, it would of course, result in the total ruination of these corporations. I like your creative thinking on this, but in reality it cannot possibly work in practice. Why? Because it's not possible to mobilize everybody with regards to the individual choices they make as consumers. It may have a minimal short-term negative impact on their profits but that's all. The way to approach this is to attack the problem in a systemic way which means a radical departure from the current economic paradigm itself.
     
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    That would only be ONE method, as part of a broader attack.

    One cog in the watch. But it would be a start, and easy to organise, and inexpensive, as well.

    You could then make sure that all ten local radio stations on that day were alerted that something was happening.

    Indeed, you could , if you know how to work the news agency system, end up bolting the story on to Reuters (not as hard as you may think).

    After that initial attack, comes the Phase 2.
     
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    Why don't we do it.

    Why wait on others, or live in hope.

    You, me, Marlowe, we can lay all other stupid and counter productive differences to one side, for that is what they are, and WE can be the genesis of this.

    This trio alone would already create a talent pool. Marlowe has his skills. You have your skills. I have my skills. Each skill is unique, like how a hand, a foot, and a mouth are all imporant, but the hand should not do the job of the foot, nor the foot the job of the mouth.

    It's down to people like us. Either we do it, or we do not do it, and we are moaning about it again, in a year.

    We can mould it from the get go, rather than have to join any existing methods or groups.

    I already have six phases, after the one I mentioned. Do not see any of them as a final cut diamond. The people that cut each diamond and who polish it, would be all of us.
     
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    At least he's doing his bit to lower the unemployment rate!

    If everybody did this there'd be no unemployment!
     
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    I like the hand thing. I once went to a meeting where the brilliant former investigative journalist and Marxist truth teller (now sadly dead) Paul Foot spoke. He ended a rousing speech by referring to the hand metaphorically as consisting of four fingers and a thumb that in isolation had no functional power. But when these individual elements combined into a fist the hand potentially becomes something else - collective strength,unity and power. That analogy has stayed with me for many years since. I say "potential" power and strength, because without a guiding ideology, it's useless. The power of the fist needs to be combined with an intellectual backbone. In other words, practice, by itself, is useless without the accompanying theory underpinning it and vice-versa. As Marx himself put it, "the philosophers have only interpreted the world in different ways, the point, however, is to change it".
     
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    Not in good taste.
     
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    Yeah you're probably right.

    Then again lighting yourself on fire in a public place where children get traumatized isn't exactly in good taste either, is it?
     
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    We do not live in the age of philosophy for the mass. It is a no no. It requires thinking, challenging fixed boundaries, and being iconcalstic even.

    Thinking in any way that is not the shaped and artificial norm is a NO. Or so they wish. You see, while I am of the view that even with decades of relentless contamination of our society, and even while 'tis true that you may have to write off a large % of people as beyond reach, this does not matter.

    In fact it is good. You see, any enemy will fear ONE intelligent creative thinker, that can communicate in a robust and forthright manner, over ONE THOUSAND boneheads, that rant and wreck things, in the city. Why? Easy. They know that one person is far more able to wreck them, or at least do them significant damage. They would sooner have an enemy with rage and guns, and no brains.

    Than one man with no guns and creative intelligence.

    This is a fact, this is so, and it is true in all cases.

    Now, we need to write this mass off for now, as they can be returned to later. To be brutal about it...they like to be led, and they will just go with whatever the flow is, at the time. They are sheep and followers and NOT leaders. For them, if a World in which it is accepted that a company like Stabucks can trade and rip, then they accept it, they may not even say a thing. This does not mean they approve, they just have not THOUGHT it through. They do not think, they react. They react and jump on the bandwagon of whatever is gathering social momentum at the time.

    Thus, we need not fear about their support, in the long term, for we will be the new sheperds, replacing the malignent tumour of such companies, and we shall create it so that is becomes almost socially trendy here, NOT to use Starbucks. We can use their superficial nature and inclination to follow, later. They do not need to know or be part of the hub. Being part of the hub would confuse them, and lead to too many conflicting voices, ideas, and views, so that things were hamstrung from the get go.

    Make no error of this. The power of these companies is mostly an illusion. I am not saying they lack financial clout, for that they do have, and lots of. But what else do they stand for? NOTHING. They have NOTHING to them. They are as empty and as vampire as the system of which they are part. ALL they have is a brand, money, and a track record for theft and skullduggery.

    Nothing else. Even their product is not key. They have no loyalty from anyone. They have no appeal in terms of a positive to a community. Nothing. All they can say is 'We make coffee and have money'.

    Everything else we have.

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    He did it so that people like me would feel inspired.
     
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    Doesn't mean it's in good taste.. Hell, streaking naked down the street isn't in good taste.. Igniting yourself into flames in the middle of the High Street is EXTREMELY (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up!
     
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    I am now about to demonstrate to you, what a cynical (and it is), campaign of addictive sugary products, plus superficial marketing, plus a defective mass of marketing monkey's, results in.

    Hundreds queue for Krispy Kreme opening

    Around 300 people camped outside waiting patiently, perhaps even salivating slightly, for their first taste in the Capital of a Glazed Original, Chocolate Kreme or a Millionaires Shortbread.

    It follows successful store openings in Cardiff and Manchester.

    *****

    There is no nice way to say this, they are like lab monkey's, trained to respond to stimuli.

    They QUEUED up for hours. It was snowing. They should be ashamed of themselves, what a total disgrace they are to themselves, but there you go, monkey will do as monkey has been trained to do,to get his monkey nuts.

    Would they same number of people queue for hours, at 7am, in the snow, to hear a man that ran an ad that said '7am Today, I speak truth about something of real importance'?

    No. You can see right there from that, that the monkey's will just do what the monkey's are trained (or can be retrained), to do and be.

    It is OBVIOUS that these companies are more than just an innocent little thing. Diabetes anyone? Obesity anyone? And they know it. And we get told that it is 'freedom and choice', but that is a twist on the truth.

    If a proven contaminate enters your society, and it will murder the health of the people, for profit, then you have a DUTY to remove them, or drive them out. As much as you would have anyone putting a contaminate into your society.

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    I have a feeling that pleasing your taste may not have been on his mind.
     
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    while visions of sugarplums dance in their heads.

    So its up to people like you to take action and bring down the evil capitalists and reshape the global economy.

    Good luck with that.

    :cheerleader: :roflol:
     
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    Jack if you ever tried Krispy Kremes you'd queue up in the snow as well.

    You can feel your arteries constrict in real time as you eat them, but they're so nice!

    8 ()___
     
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    Write off this mass now? Condemn large chunks of the population because they aren't up to your standards? hmmmm this sounds awfully familiar.

    When you embark upon this new crusade, will you wear brown or black shirts?

    You get inspired by visions of self immolation? Or just like it when severely ill people off themselves? Setting yourself on fire because your unemployment ended is not a rational thing to do. Inspired by a pointless and painful suicide...... good on you.
     
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    "Your post was nonsensical."
     
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    If you think about it for a moment the metaphor is not very accurate. A single finger or a single thumb actually has functional power.

    [video=youtube;yl7cRSGTw_k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl7cRSGTw_k[/video]


    http://journalofchinesemartialscience .blogspot.ca/2008/09/one-finger-zen.html

    onefzen3.jpg

    yes that's a one finger push up.

    Might want to rethink the metaphor a tad.
     
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    No.

    I will never use them. I never use MacDonalds, I never use KFC, I never watch TV, and rarely watch Holywood films, and if I do, I am very picky as to what.

    :thumbsup:
     
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    Let me know when you have something constructive, free of your tired old buzz words.

    :thumbsup:
     
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    How do you spend your free time?
     
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    Of topic - Troll alert.
     
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    Why?

    What does that have to do with you?

    Shall I start asking you personal questions, or will you run get the cavalry?

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    It is every day with this one, as you know. Troll, troll, questions about people's personal life, every single day.
     
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    And can we just actually NIP this in the bud right NOW.

    This is a good thread. We are all enjoying it. I do not want to get back later, and find it ruined by her, with about 15 posts having to be deleted. Any more attempts at thread ruination, and I will insist she be removed, as she is spoiling it for everyone.
     
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