Manafort lied after pleading guilty, Mueller's team says

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  1. Ddyad

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    All the proof responsible citizens need. A big pay off and the delivery of the uranium. Certainly enough for a grand jury to indict - if given the opportunity
     
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    Exactly. Unfortunately the corrupt Obama DOJ buried it.
     
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    Greg Jarret does a great job of breaking all this down in chapter 4 of his book “The Russian Hoax” - 2018.
     
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    So your contention is that the Clintons were able to corrupt a Utah Nuclear Regulator, And a Utah Attorney General, once a month After she left as Secretary of State?
    Actually, 4 of the team are unregistered and have not made any campaign donations, so not sure how you prove they are Dems. Also, one of the registered Dems also donated to Chaffetz (a republican)

    pppthh. You need to prove that the agencies involved who approved it, did so at the behest of the Clintons. Simply saying that 'Clintons got money, Russians got Uranium. Case Closed' is almost Maxwell Smart-level of hilariousness
     
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    Remember Whitey Bulgar

    Alan Dershowitz Rips Special Counsel Mueller as 'a Partisan and Zealot'
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    Ripping FBI special counsel Robert Mueller as a political "zealot," Harvard law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz reminded staunch Mueller supporters about the former FBI director's role in protecting "notorious mass murderer" Whitey Bulger as an FBI informant.

    "He's the guy who kept four innocent people in prison for many years in order to protect the cover of Whitey Bulger as an FBI informer. Those of us in Boston don't have such a high regard for Mueller because we remember this story. The government had to pay out tens of millions of dollars because Whitey Bulger, a notorious mass murderer, became a government informer against the mafia . . .

    "And that's regarded in Boston of one of the great scandals of modern judicial history. And Mueller was right at the center of it. So, he is not without criticism by people who know him in Boston."

    Mueller kept 4 innocent men in prison, for many years, to protect a mass murderer, who continued murdering, as an FBI informant. To keep Whitey in business, the FBI arranged for these four innocent men to be convicted for some of Whitey's crimes. Mueller is a vile evil psychopath.

    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/alan-dershowitz-mueller-political-zealot/2018/04/08/id/853235/
     
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    This was a federal decision - why didn’t Clinton as Sec State block it ?? Why were multi million dollar donations made ?? Why did Bill receive $500K for a 60 minute speech in Russia ?? Read Jarret’s book - chapter 4.
     
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    I don't need to. That way requires starting with the Conclusion (Clinton corrupt and sold Uranium One for money) and then working your way back to find the clues to support this and glossing over the parts that show it to be false.

    The deal required multiple venues of approval for the sale to occur. One of which was the Utah Nuclear Regulator, and the Utah Attorney General. Show me how they were corrupted for this deal and then we can chat, but until then, this falls under 'Unverified Conspiracy Theory' at best.
     
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    LOL............Yep, "missed it by that much!".................lol
     
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    It requires looking at evidence and then forming a conclusion as is the case in any investigation. Again this was a federal deal approved by the State Department. The state of Utah had no influence on that corrupt decision.

    Read Jarret’s book for all the details and specifics on the criminal activity.
     
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    The Deep State and its secret police/intelligence agencies have been corrupt and metastasizing beyond the reach of the law for a very long time.

    “In addition, intelligence routinely resorts to lying, deception, plausible denial, and related arts to escape detection, or, on higher levels, responsibility. Hoover's right-hand man, Cartha DeLoach, thus falsely assured Attorney General Nicholas de B. Katzenbach that the bureau tapes of Martin Luther King, wiretaps which he had offered to play for a Newsweek reporter, were made by a Georgia police unit and not by the FBI. Director Hoover frustrated Attorney General Francis Biddle’s order in 1943 to terminate a detention list merely by changing its name. Richard Helms lied to a Senate committee about CIA involvement in the “de-stabilizing” the Allende regime in Chile as well as its role in attacking domestic dissidents. Director Hoover regularly understated in Congressional testimony the number of electronic surveillances maintained during the previous year by excluding figures relating to microphone surveillances and by shutting down some of the wiretap installations on the eve of his testimony, only to resume them later."
    The Age of Surveillance, The Aims and Methods of America's Political intelligence System, Frank J. Donner, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York, 1980, p. 24,25.
     
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    He is a very good researcher. Have not read his book.
     
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    LOL! The Russians paid them off.
    You should be wondering why they were not asked by a grand jury to explain the obvious Big Fat Bribe. $500/25 mins.
     
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    Damn that stupid right wing lawyer, Alan Dershowitz! ;-)
     
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    Dershowitz is actually one of the only true liberals left. He has been totally shunned by the illiberals which currently dominate the Democratic Party.
     
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    Well, in that case, let the investigation continue.
     
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    Dershowitz is trying to prevent the witch hunters, many are his friends, from giving Trump an opportunity to bring them before grand juries to eventually be thrown into jail. The thinking Left has been trying to warn them for a long time now.
     
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    you should actually learn about the decision before you make claims
    UTAH Energy Regulator
    https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML1030/ML103070046.pdf
    https://deq.utah.gov/legacy/busines...013/05May/2-20-2013ARMZandUOneTransaction.pdf

    US National Nuclear Regulatory Approval
    https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2010-12-07/html/2010-30638.htm

    So your going to tell me that all these folks were corrupted by the Clintons? Some of whom made their decisions After she left as Sec of State?
    The Russians paid off the Utah Energy Regulator? Wheres the proof of this?
     
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    Which one of the things I posted wasn't a fact ?
     
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    Because the right has demonized it so badly that it has stigmatized the name.
     
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    Yes, because in rightwinglandia the Clintons are omnipotent who can change the winds and the rains for personal gain

    It's embarrassing how rightwinglandia ties everything they deem bad in the world, to some Clinton conspiracy.

    Whenever someone on the right mentions a Clinton anymore, their either deflecting or their just a parrot who has no thoughts of their own
     
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    Those documents make the case. The ultimate decision was the Sec of State. Who controlled the NRC ??
     
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    Too funny. They are down because Hillary lost. Why is there no detailed accounting of the Clinton Foundation ??
     
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    How does someone who moved out of the White House dead broke in 2001 achieve a net worth 17 years later of hundreds of millions of dollars ??
     
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    They paid off The Clintons. Once one Big Fat Bribe has been well documented everyone involved should be investigated
    The Utah regulators should have been questioned before a grand jury long ago.

    First the Big Bribe then the Big Lie.

    “After the Obama administration approved the sale of a Canadian mining company with significant U.S. uranium reserves to a firm owned by Russia’s government, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission assured Congress and the public the new owners couldn’t export any raw nuclear fuel from America’s shores.

    “No uranium produced at either facility may be exported,” the NRC declared in a November 2010 press release that announced that ARMZ, a subsidiary of the Russian state-owned Rosatom, had been approved to take ownership of the Uranium One mining firm and its American assets.”
    THE HILL, Uranium One deal led to some exports to Europe, memos show, BY JOHN SOLOMON AND ALISON SPANN - 11/02/17.
    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show
     
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    They need a villain so that they can feel like they are the hero.

    The documents showing that the Utah Nuclear Regulator approved the sale (a Republican State filled with Republican appointees and a general Conservatism amongst the majority Mormon Population show that (somehow) the Clintons forced them to approve the sale?

    How on earth to you make that leap?

    All I'm asking is for some proof that the Utah Nuclear Regulator has had some (any) connection to the Clintons that would in anyway support your supposition. Anything.
     

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