Marijuana is drug most often linked to crime, study finds

Both Colorado and Washington States have legalized Marijuana. I hope the good folks in these states watch their crime rates carefully. Statistically they ARE going to rise along with your homeowners and auto insurance. When they do, you'll know which state politicians to blame. For the sake of a little in tax revenue, you're going to waste a lot in law enforcement and insurance costs. But, don't worry, they'll simply raise your taxes to pay for it.

 

Are you arguing that marijuana use increases someone's propensity to commit crime?

 

What a cartload of phony drug war propaganda BS.

It doesn't even PRETEND to be a causal study and oh-so-carefully does NOT mention the TRUE Number One drug associated with CAUSING crime - ALCOHOL!

 

Oh well in that case it's totally ok that kid got shot.


Jesus what a load of horse(*)(*)(*)(*). You made a false insinuation. No where in the article does the study correlate marijuana use and crime rates. Since marijuana is the most widely used illegal drug, it's going to produce the most positive results in ANY population.

And as Dave pointed out, alcohol is by far and wide the winner here.

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I certainly hope not since no where in that article does it suggest anything of the sort.

 

Not me,

That would be "the White House director of national drug-control policy", you know Obama's guy.

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Take it up with Obama's "White House director of national drug-control policy".

 

Strange, no where in that statement does the directed say what you implied.


Obviously there is a link between drug use and crime. Criminals tend to have the propensity to engage in illegal behavior, drugs being included in that whole illegal activity thing. But no where did anyone say that the use of marijuana increases someone's "propensity to commit crime" nor does it imply that legalizing marijuana would increase crime rates.

In fact I would argue the opposite. Decriminalizing marijuana would reduce arrests for marijuana possession, ergo lowering crime rates.

 

....while society and civility are the clear losers.

Could america survive a 100% alcoholism rate, if everyone in the country were an alcoholic?

No. It collapses pretty quick.

Could America survive a 100% opiate addicted population?

No. Same.

Could America survive a 100% gay population?

No. Population crashes. Taxes can't meet entitlement needs.

Could America survive a 100% couch locked dope smoker population?

Obviously not.

So why do we allow any of these? Each is a partial social suicide. I can almost explain why alcohol is allowed. I cannot explain why the others and similar are even contemplated.

 

Sure it does.

 

Of course it's the illegal drug most linked to crime. 30% of your population uses it.

Oh, and there's a correlation/causation fallacy here. Criminals use marijuana, marijuana doesn't make criminals.

Finally, if you replace "marijuana" with "guns" all of a sudden you're making the argument for the left. The principles are all the same. The only difference is that social conservatives don't have a hard on for weed like they do for guns. I say legalize both.

PS: You now make the very, very exclusive list of people I know of who actually think cannabis should be prohibited. Even the most conservative people usually have no problem with weed.

 

I'm not sure what substances you are on that incoherent mess is in anyway relevent to anything I said.


I see no reason marijuana should not be legal. Alcohol is light years more dangerous than weed an its legal. But I digress, as that is not my point. My point is that the conclusions made by the OP and Brewskier are not supported by the study he cited.

 

Nope, it did not at all. The director said there was a strong correlation between drugs and crime. It did not specify anything about crime rates or the propensity to commit crime. Only that criminals tend to use drugs. Surprise!

 

They are just kicking and screaming since America now supports legalized pot. And that its been proven time and again that pot is not a dangerous drug at all. Oh and of course they have to try and make the absurd case that Trayvon Martin was stoned so he must of been "violent". Which again goes against science, but hey when do conservatives ever believe science?

 

To you maybe.

But, please keep believing, By the time the marijuana folks wake up, they'll be on the county farm fixing pot holes in the road.

 

Uh, to anyone with the ability to read. This isn't debatable, your study literally does not mention crime rates or the propensity to commit crime. This is an indisputable FACT.

You can post that as many times as you like, it still doesn't say what you want it to. All it says is that criminals are likely to have drugs in their system, and marijuana was the most detected drug. Since marijuana is the most commonly used illegal drug, it would be the most detected drug in ANY population.

Again, this study DOES NOT mention crime rates or the propensity to commit crime.

 

Most criminals also have hands and a nose. Correlation =/= causation.

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Number 1 cause of household crime*.




*Beating, raping a spouse.

 

Gil proved correlation, not causation.

 

Forty years as a cop. All the fights and brawls I had I would say alcohol was involved in the great majority of them (not me drinking, them drinking). Dope users were quite passive, usually cheerful and very rarely violent. Now, the dirtbags that did housebreaks and other building breaks and thievery were likely to use dope but that was because they were dirtbags, it didn't make them dirtbags. Not saying dope users are dirtbags by the way, dirtbags are dirtbags.

Legalise it, it's a huge crock of you know what to keep it prohibited.

 

I would wager 5 bucks that most criminals smoke tobacco also. Lets criminalize it also

 

Good info. It will be interesting to see if this becomes a factor in the Thugvon, er, Zimmerman trial, given Thugvon had pictures of pot on his phone.

 

Very interesting post. Let's just say I hung around the party scene a lot in my younger days. I never ran into anyone who became violent after smoking post. However, I did run into many who became violent after drinking alcohol. Of course, there are more than just violent crimes to commit. I don't know much about thieves, but I suspect smoking pot would drop inhibitions about committing other crimes after smoking pot- or taking a variety of substances for that matter.

 

I say we let these state laws stand and see what happens. That would include collecting information on what substances are found in criminals arrested.

Now if only King Hussein would get his goons to back off and stop with the raids on dispensaries.

 

Again, you need to take it up with Obama's director of national drug-control policy. How many ways do I need to say that.

The numbers speak for themselves.

 

Alcohol is more damaging to our society than any illegal drug. People get drunk and get violent and cause automobile crashes, and let's not forget, you can literally kill yourself by having a few too many drinks on any given night. Marijuana however, causes people to laugh and eat more cheetos than usual. It's absolutely shameful that we put people in jails/prisons with murderers, rapists, and pedophiles over something as relatively harmless as marijuana. The violent crime related to the distribution of marijuana wouldn't happen if it was legal for adults to purchase it in stores. Imagine the incredible amounts of revenue the government could get by heavily taxing marijuana and consider how it could impact the national debt and lessen the need to cut spending on entitlements and programs that the American people don't want to cut.

 

Not according to Gil Kerlikowske, the White House director of national drug-control policy. The study he points out shows........

Take it up with Obama.

 

if you want to see some articles on the other side of the argument

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been watching this war on drugs and marijuana since the late 60's and I would make a wild guess that at least 50 - 75 % of people under the age of 70 have smoked weed at one time or another. I think it is time we admit that alcohol and tobacco are both far more dangerous than pot. Considering the tremendous amount of resources that the enforcement entails and how ineffective it is I think it is really a waste of taxpayers dollars