Marshall RB charged in beating of 2 gay men, kicked off team Is beating up homosexuals the new "knockout game"? How do you handle it when a member of one victims of the moment club assaults a member of a different victims of the moment club?
See two people on the street, get out of your car and assault them because they kissed. Seems pretty cut and dry. You do realize a persons race does not effect the possibility of them committing a hate crime? Right?
Don't know why you think race needs to be involved. I posted this event earlier in another thread, because someone else was asking "Oh no, what will the liberals do now? Will they send a black guy to jail?" Umm, yeah- of course we will. I still don't get the right. A crime is a crime.
No, he won't- especially with us gay people. That would make it even worse. We do not care for Islam, or any other extreme version of any religion.
No, they think only white people get convicted of hate crimes. Why do you think this thread has had no posts? It doesn't fit their agenda. Hell, I'm surprised the OP even posted this at all. It's a major fail for the things the righties like to claim.
An assault is an assault. Doesn't matter what race or orientation either party are. And no, I'm not a supporter of "hate crime" laws.
Perriquine, even though we usually agree, I do support hate crimes legislation- for good reason. For instance, the gay panic defense has been used in the past to get criminals lesser sentences and many times completely exonerated, even in murder and rape cases. In the 80s in college, I saw this happen to a lesbian friend of mine. She was gang raped by three men. She went to the police and to the hospital. The police didn't care much, even though she had the evidence from the hospital. It did end up going to court, but all three guys walked. I'm sure you know why- keep in mind, this was the Reagan 80's. It might as well have been the 50s. The only justice she got was that the university kicked them out. At least she got that. Even now, transgendered people are getting the same raw deal, UNLESS they can get a hate crimes charge. All you have to do is search google. Until we can get the law to apply justice like they are supposed to, we will need hate crimes laws. But unfortunately, officials are people too, with biases. I wish it were otherwise, but it it is not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense
Oh yeah blacks get charged with hate crimes, but not in any comparison to white people nor is it made at all any big news from left wing organizations as IT DOES NOT fit their agenda in any way. Im not surprised this thread hasn't been invaded by liberal posters calling for hate crimes and rights for gay's, because that means they would be having to stand up against not only black people, but muslims and that is a big "NO NO" within liberal ideology and PC standards. If this were a white Christian attacking 2 gay men for this, we would have 5 threads on this including the mans home address and whole life story by now.
I posted an article about this case in another thread before this thread was started. I'm a liberal. This guy is getting what he deserves. I know, so disappointing for you that I think the law applies to everyone. BTW, this has been reported by CNN, the New York Times, USA Today, The Huffington Post, NBC, DeadSpin, and The Washington Post. Google the guy's name. Did I miss any of the "librool media" outlets? You guys aren't talking about it because it does not fit your ideology and preconceived notions.
Right because it is such a big piece of news on the outlets, you know like the fake stories the liberal media tries to push via their made up lies such as with Tawana Bradley, Duke Rape case, Mike brown, Treyvon Martin, and any other attempt to blame white rightwingers for death ,destruction or hate crime. Yeah sure this story will get a quick spot , but it wont drag out as much as it would if it was a white Christian right winger. There are no ideology and preconceived notions when it comes to this, everyone knows the black community and the muslim community are very anti gay, that is what does not fit YOUR agenda to truly attack. This will be quickly forgotten by the left, can't start not controversy between their pet minorities before election time, taking anyone's side might cost votes and we know votes are what is most important to the left.
What's the controversy? I don't get it. This guy committed a hate crime and is going to get charged with one, as he should! So what if he's black? The only people who care about that are you guys. The law applies to everyone, and it is supposed to. The ones who make a big deal out the religious thing are you guys, who will basically say that Christians should get to break the law because of their religion. Yeah, I have a major problem with that, as do many people. That's why it gets attention. Because you think that Christians do not need to follow the law like everyone else. And that is not OK.
Probably not the new 'knockout' game with the fear of AIDS and stuff. I don't support any so-called hate crime legislation, so I don't support it here either. Maybe that's why fewer conservatives are jumping into this discussion...
This isn't a problem with a deficiency in the law, subsequently being solved by "hate crime" laws. It's a problem of law enforcement and the judiciary discriminating against certain groups of people. What we now see is that in some places, they won't apply the "hate crime" laws, either. In other words, it's a law that tries to treat symptoms, is ineffective at doing so, and doesn't get at the underlying problem.
This is exactly what I have said since the hate crime BS was pushed by liberals. "Hate crimes" are liberals' way of pushing their agenda so crimes that offend them are elevated to a higher level while they minimize the vast majority of street crime which is committed by black and hispanic street savages with 'mitigating conditions' such as poverty. Funny how mitigating conditions never apply in the reverse. Hate crimes are only perpetrated against the politically correct. Why doesn't someone explain how shooting someone for their wallet is a love crime? it seems to me that street savages who live a life of crime are much more dangerous than a gang of white kids that might pick on a black kid once in their lives.
It is a hypocritical piece of legislation, it alone is used to create more hate, to divide more. It is nothig but a tool of the left to create a bigger racial and social divide amongst the masses. Blacks kill more blacks than whites do, hell blacks kill more whites, rape more whites, and victimize more whites than vice versa. Obviously that goes against the liberal narrative that whites are more dangerous to black society so they need this legislation to push their agenda. Hell blacks and Hispanics have been going at it for many many years, but you will hardly ever hear about that battle simply because the left does not want to have to choose which side they will take between their pet minorities. Hate crime legislation is a total sham and is not at all equally applied.
