Mass graves of Cromwell's victims in Britain.

When you are listening hysterical screams about victims of communism keep in mind how their blessed capitalism started.

 

Back when the main weapons of the world were swords and bows? That's the best you can come up with? 400 years ago?

The victims of communism from within the past 60 years. Still to this day people suffer from its effects. And the number of victims far exceeds 1,700. Try 10s of millions. If not hundreds.

 

The Scottish soldiers were most likely Catholic.

 

How about the victims of US imperialism; would you like to count them also? By the way this isn't a pissing contest.

 

Capitalists have such a great history with all that imperialism and slavery.

 

i dont think so...any link?

 

Tell it to the Jews.

No social system in the history of man is more commonly reviled than socialism. The pinnacle of mans inhumanity to man has been socialist. We can go back the entire history of the human race and still be eclipsed by the actions of socialists in living memory.

 

Yeh, but back then that was the best they could do. ( and they surely rose to the occasion)

"Man is a wolf to man" (and that actually slanders wolves)

Cromwell is a strange figure. One of the very few Europeans to enslave fellow Europeans on a large scale, yet some of his writings seem to betray a soul not unaffected by the atrocities it engendered.

 

In a market place with the first written language. Linear B.

 

More likely Presbyterian.

National socialism does not equal socialism just as democratic republic does not equal democracy.

 

Were the Crusades, for example, based in socialist ideology or do you think that might have come about 1000 years later?

 

Capitalism has existed to some degree for a long time. Strict, or idealistic, capitalism is relatively new and perfect, or complete capitalism is most likely impossible. I can't think of any government that doesn't produce services of some kind.

People have always owned stuff. While royalty may have had a monopoly on land and business for a long time the regular people have always tried to own or have power over as much as they could. In some situations where the economy was good and the ruler had a laissez faire attitude commoners could amass quite a bit. Its how the 'merchant class' came to be.

I see capitalism as an economic and political label for a basic human drive.

 

All this quibbling over the names we give to evil does nothing but insult the victims. Systems of industrialized murder are perversions of anything human, and it trivializes their malevolence to act as if they are anything else.

 

Cromwell had a hatred of Catholism, especially Scottish and Irish Catholics. Any Scottish Catholic soldiers would have been treated harshly.

 

Ask your friends, the Muslims.

 

Could you have posted anything less relevant to the thread?

 

The crusades pale into insignificance to Mao, Stalin and Hitlers purges.
Total insignificance.

Given that neither the words socialism nor capitalism existed in the crusade days, I can make as much a claim that the Pope was the leader of a socialist system as I can a capitalist system. But I'll go with theocratic myself.

 

A quick Wiki shows me that the Scots he fought were Presbyterian. Scottish are historically so.

 

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Can I see your link?

 

LOL, anything to slam modern capitalism which doesn't apply to England's mercantilism of that period.

 

Yes, 1700 victims only in one grave of the time when main weapons were swords and bows. The talk is not about all victims of capitalism, that's another story.

The point is that anti-commies swear by all that is holy that communist revolutions were carried out with violence and bloodshed,while bourgeois revolutions were all carried out by democratic referendums, and there was no violence whatsoever. Somehow this view will not piece on to the facts.

 

The Cromwell is a superior tier 6 British medium tank, with excellent mobility and a rapid fire high penetration gun.

[video=youtube;l27ujJg6X4A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l27ujJg6X4A[/video]

 

I dare say your nation would win the Victims of Imperialism Pissing Contest by a yard or two over the US.

 

That's what I was thinking, they were probably Catholics. The persecutions must have been really horrendous to convert a whole nation within 100 years when the Soviets couldn't do it in 70 years, and the Turks in 300 years. And yet so much is made of the inquisition when in comparison it was probably minimal.

The pity is that all our historians are British and Protestants, not that I'm critical of them, after all they had their own opinions and were very capable, only that we get such a limited view of history... which can only come from the writings in the monasteries, and those were the very things that the Protestants abolished.

 

Washington's evil and mass murders in MENA and Eastern Europe today comes from the same Bolshevik mentality that overthrew the Tsar in Russia and established the 'internationalist' Soviet Union.

To them lives are inconsequential if the end result is the One World Order they aspire to ...under US hegemony of course.

It all stems from arrogance... for how can anyone with the least bit of humility place themselves in the lofty position of deciding what is the best for humanity? Especially ones whose indifference towards human lives and welfare shows them to be sociopaths and therefore morally incapable of making any decision that would affect others.