Mass Shooting at Texas Home

Hi, fmw.

Thank you for taking time to reply to my post.

Yes, criminal illegal aliens in the news, too. A story can be about more than one topic.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.

 

But no it wasn't about guns. The shooter was illegal, his ownership of the gun was illegal and his murders were illegal. There is no gun law that would have changed that. You may get there one day.

 

Its about the shooting.

Anyone, even illegal aliens, can buy guns from private sellers and this guy was in habit of openly firing his gun in his front yard knowing such behavior is normal and no one would blink an eye because its part of Texas culture.

 

Sounds like you are defending him. Not only is it not part of Texas culture but it is illegal.

 

Hi again, fmw.

It wasn't about guns? What were the weapons used to kill those victims, watermelons?

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.

 

No, I said what I said, and it was not in his defense.

Lets not make it about me.

Shooting guns is Texas culture, and apparently in this small town, it is a common pastime, which is why this guy was in habit of doing it openly without fear of getting in trouble even thought he was an illegal.

And the law makes is very easy for illegals to buy guns, since private sales do not require background checks.

 

you couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.

there is nothing about Texas culture in shooting firearms illegally or in city limits. This shithead was here illegally and deported 5 times-HIS entire neighborhood is full of law breakers who are also illegally shooting things.
This is illegal idiot stuff, not Texas stuff.

 

and crackheads can buy crack from gangsters. There are plenty of laws that punish that.

 

The gun banners keep saying if we just had ONE MORE LAW-then

1) the guy wouldn't have been here illegally multiple times
2) he wouldn't have the gun
3) he wouldn't have murdered several people

 

Sure, but there is no law to criminalize a private seller from selling his gun to whoever he wants to, and there is nothing to prevent the transaction from taking place. If the deal had to be completed at a dealer, then a background check would be performed.

 

Good point about the lack of checks with private sales.

 

you cannot enforce that law and if the police are not busting straw buyers, the only purpose of this feel good law is to pretend the proponents have done something and to hassle people who follow even stupid laws.

what prevents illegal behavior is the threat of punishment. Felons already scoff at 18 USC 922 and all the laws that ban their malum per se activities

 

how do you enforce those? the background checks at retail dealers have done nothing to decrease violent crime

 

Law abiding citizens would complete their sales at a dealer, and a background check would be performed. Today a law abiding citizen can sell their guns to anyone and not ask any questions. So, yea, it would reduce number of private sales ending up in wrong hands, and it would not be an inconvenience, except to those who'll whine about everything.

 

People with background holes or criminals are going to retail gun stores where they know they will be checked.

 

I am a gun owner of multiple guns so I do not want overly strict gun controls. Reasonable controls are fine with me. No, I do claim that the government will confiscate our guns. It is not due to the goodwill of government it is not practical to confiscate guns in a country that have more guns than people.
IMO the founding fathers created the second amendment for the right to bear arms but not for the right to overthrow a government.

 

Same here, and if I had to sell one, I wouldn't mind completing the sale at a dealer to make sure I am not selling to someone who is not suppose to have guns. That is not an inconvenience at all, aka its reasonable.

Some will oppose any and all suggestions and in the process they make the situation with illegals and criminals having guns worse, which will eventually result in strict gun control. I don't think they realize that.

 

You are correct that lack of reasonable gun controls will someday cause the pendulum to swing back and an overly strict gun control scheme will get employed. Eventually the mass shootings will hit critical mass and the gun banners or gross gun controllers will gain political clout and then all of us will get screwed.

 

What you cite is grossly illegal. A person who makes a private sale and sells to a prohibited person has broken the law.

 

No, there is no requirement to check the byers background. All the buyer needs is id to show he/she is from the same State. As you suggest, it SHOULD be illegal.

"Under Florida and federal law, it is perfectly legal to directly sell a firearm to another individual who resides in the State of Florida without having to go through an FFL. This applies to both handguns and long guns."

 

And if you sell to a prohibited person, you're liable for that. Just like if you happen to tag an innocent bystander while in a justified shooting.
A lack of a check does not equate to a lack of liability if you're wrong.

Most people I know who would do a private sale (myself included) check for the little holograph that indicates voterID. VoterID = not a felon and not an illegal. Any sort of balking at that and the sale is off.

 

Nor should there be. You want permission from government when you decide to sell your private property. Fascism here we come.

 

No they were guns. The guns can't shoot without a shooter. Your boogie man is misplaced. It isn't an inanimate object. It is identifying and dealing with sociopaths like the illegal in Texas that killed the family. If you think hard enough you will begin to understand that your position is political, not practical.

 

Hi again, fmw.

My position is, and has been from the start, that we experience a large number of deaths by gunshot each year in the US. My statement of fact is that our present laws, their level of enforcement, and our social programs still result in this number of deaths by gunshot. My additional statement of fact is that, in the vast number of instances of death by gunshot, three components are required. These are a shooter, a gun, and a bullet of shot. I also note that if any one of those three components is removed or blocked from use, a death by gunshot will normally not obtain.

Please indicate why any of those statements and facts are 'political'.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot..

 

You too.