Matt Gaetz’s Legislative Aide Is a Convicted War Criminal

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  1. Condor060

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    Then you should be able to provide such. Right?
     
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    Says the poster who doesn't know that the poster he is responding to is not a guy, and says you that doesn't know that once the charges are dropped, "alleged" no longer applies. There is no proof as was determined by the DOJ. Alleged means "assert without proof" If there was no proof, then how does the word allege still apply?

    Think carefully.
     
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    A murderer.......talk about birds of feather
     
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    o_O
     
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    A civilian is not an enemy combatant.
     
  6. Condor060

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    Another half story thread.

    Miller stopped the man for questioning when the man walked through a defensive perimeter that Miller's unit had set up around a mortar unit, infiltrating the base. He said that upon being questioned the man made inconsistent statements, Miller believed the man could be a threat to Miller's unit who was scouting the area for the Taliban, that during questioning the man tried to grab Miller's weapon, and that during the ensuing struggle Miller shot and killed the man.

    A platoon sergeant testified that as a result of the interrogation of the suspect the unit came to believe that a Taliban attack was imminent and heightened its security, and that within an hour the unit was in fact attacked, with the sergeant crediting Miller's interrogation of the man with saving the lives of American soldiers.

    In June 2017, Texas Republican U.S. Representative Brian Babin asked President Donald Trump in a letter to order a review of Miller's case and the cases of other veterans who fought in Afghanistan and Iraq who were imprisoned for battlefield crimes.

    Miller also received support from Maryland Democratic US Representative Elijah Cummings. In April 2018 Texas Republican U.S. Representative Louie Gohmert testified at a hearing, supporting Miller.

    In July 2018, after a clemency hearing the Army Clemency and Parole Board reduced Miller's sentence. That made him eligible for parole. Retired Marine Lieutenant Colonel David "Bull" Gurfein, who served in Afghanistan and both Gulf Wars and is the CEO of United American Patriots, a nonprofit organization that lobbies for service members accused of battle crimes in war zones, said: "He's a super individual. He made the right decision, he followed the rules of engagement.... Anyone who looks into the details of the case will see an injustice has been done.

    After being incarcerated for eight years, subsequent to a parole hearing Miller was granted parole and was released on May 20, 2019.

    And now we know the entire story.
     
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    They never said no proof. Not once did they ever say that.

    For the record, don’t care what you identify as. It’s immaterial to me.
     
  8. Think for myself

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    So he was convicted of killing someone? Odd that he ends up working as a congressional staffer.
     
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    We all get how these post of mine somehow don't fit your narrative when they expose the entire story, and not just your limited version for yet another conservative gotcha plug.
    Posting half truths isn't helping your credibility.
    But its a free country. You can post whatever you want.
     
  10. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. Mine in this thread are fact based.
     
  11. Condor060

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    Correction, Half Fact based for a false narrative
     
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    He is if he's armed and killing US troops.
     
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    Someone did not read the article....................
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not a shred of truth in your statement. Literally everything I have stated is factual.
     
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    What evidence was found and verified? Why didn't they charge him if they found evidence he was involved in sex trafficking? Are the allegations still pending with the DOJ?

    "NBC News had reported in October that the investigation into Gaetz had stalled, according to attorneys who have represented witnesses and people who have been subpoenaed or have spoken to investigators. The attorneys briefed about aspects of the case said the probe stalled over concerns about the credibility of two key witnesses or a lack of direct evidence implicating Gaetz, who has denied all wrongdoing."
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...gaetz-sex-trafficking-investigation-rcna70839

    The allegations were dropped why do you keep saying he is STILL and alleged sex trafficker. If I alleged you are a sex trafficker and no evidence or charges come out of an investigation are you forever and alleged sex trafficker simply because I said you were?
     
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    We've created such a poisonous climate in our society, where allegations are as bad as actually being convicted. And that's not the nature of our justice system, or what we'd come to expect from it. it used to be 'innocent until proven guilty', now it's 'even when declared innocent, you're not innocent'
     
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    So now you don't know what half truth means
    A statement that conveys only part of the truth, especially one used deliberately in order to deceive someone.
    You knowingly left out the parts I provided because it doesn't fit your narrative.

    You knowingly ignored the fact that his actions had saved American lives from a Taliban attack that night.

    You knowingly ignored the clemencies board review releasing him and their reasons

    You knowingly ignored Marine Lieutenant Colonel David "Bull" Gurfein, who served in Afghanistan and both Gulf Wars and is the CEO of United American Patriots, a nonprofit organization that lobbies for service members accused of battle crimes in war zones, said: "He's a super individual. He made the right decision, he followed the rules of engagement.... Anyone who looks into the details of the case will see an injustice has been done.

    All you claimed was he was a convicted war criminal.

    You start off with your narrative stating (Alleged child sex trafficker Matt Gaetz)
    Why would you make that claim when the investigation has concluded that no crime was committed?
    Because you use false narratives to try and make false points.
    And you do it in every thread of yours I have read.
     
  18. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see.

    well, I am going to go with reality on this one, as he is a convicted murderer
     
  19. Condor060

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    You're welcome to post all the half truths you want.
    It doesn't effect anyones credibility but your own
    Knock yourself out
     
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    CNN once alleged some teen was a white supremacist... They also became way lighter in the wallet.
     
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    I do thank you.
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did they? I am not sure they said he was a "white supremacist", but as you are in the know, what was the final settlement?
     
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    It was a defamation case that Sandman was awarded. Sandman was looking for $275 million in damages, however no one knows the true settlement as there is an NDA, part of the settlement. He also won against the Washington Post, ABC, CBS and the Gaurdian for defamation. I suspect Sandman will live fairly comfortably the rest of his life.
     
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    Bro! You said their wallet was a lot lighter. Was your post not true? What is the amount? Support your claim.
     
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    Bro! The burden of proof is on you as it's EMPIRICAL that CNN settled the case. The amount is irrelevant in my humble opinion, as even if it were $1, their wallet is lighter as their ratings... part of which was from their shenanigans with the Sandmann settlement, have TANKED... but go ahead and defend that hill..
     

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