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  1. IranianStudent1

    IranianStudent1 Member

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    Hi.
    Is Christian food any different from the food you buy from American supermarkets, the way Muslims' Halal food or Jewish Kushier food are different?
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Christians don't have dietary laws like Halal or kosher.
     
  3. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Yeah Christians can eat everything.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well Christians who select which part of the Bible they want to follow can.
     
  5. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I'm not aware of any dietary restrictions that Jesus laid down, and the Old Testament doesn't count.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except the parts about the commandments? Except the parts about homosexuality?

    Anyway, there is a dietary restriction in the New Testament.
     
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    CKW Well-Known Member

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    The Old Covenant. Is. Replaced. With. The New Covenant. Jesus. The Old Testament is valid...even the part in the Old Testament that said a New Covenant would replace the old Covenant.

    Out of curiosity---what dietary restriction are you speaking of?
     
  8. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    LOL The old testament doesn't count eh? Why make half the bible with it then? Just filler is it?

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    Depends, like Jews and Muslims, what part of what text any given Christian thinks is worth following and also how they think it should be followed. Quite a few (that I am aware of) adhere to primarily Jewish restrictions.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then the dietary laws would be valid now too. I believe it was Peter that refused to break the dietary laws of the old testament believing them still valid.

    Ye shant not eatath the flesheth of dem animals dat beith sacrificed.
     
  10. CKW

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    Nope ...don't know why you are stuck on that. Peter was shown by God--through a vision--that all animals were fit to be eaten. Just as he was shown in the same experience and calling that their are no "unclean" people.

    Acts 10:9-16

    Peter’s Vision
    9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”

    14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”

    15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

    16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.



    Perhaps you have a reference? Not familier with that one.
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    So cannibalism is acceptable?
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a shocker--The bible contradicts itself. Romans 14:14 says that if a person deems food unclean then it is unclean, and here Peter is being told he is wrong in Acts but he is told his belief is right in Romans. Whatever is the guy who wrote half the New Testament to believe? Or is there a difference between the animal as an entity and an animal as food? Hummmm.....that is a tough one unless you are really craving some bacon and everybody loves bacon. Of course a dozen verses later Peter realized that the voice that he heard during his LSD trip had told him a metaphor about not thinking there are clean and unclean people.




    1 Corinthians
     
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    What's the dietary restriction of the New Testament? Just letting you know, I'm not giving up bacon for any god.
     
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    Do you feel better after releasing a lot of rant?
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I dunno. You would probably have to ask a Christian. I just know I've never seen a deli that specialized in any sort of Jesus foods.
     
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    Colored eggs. Everyone eats colored eggs on Easter.
     
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    Usually because the sects of Christians that hold to these particular views are involved in pyramid schemes, not community enrichment, if you catch my drift.
     
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    The Bible does not contradict itself.
    It is just some people refuse to use logic and honest usage of a text.
    They can, they just refuse to do so.
     
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    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    Since Christ fulfilled the 613 laws and regulations of the Old Testament, these no longer apply to a Christian.
    Some Christian groups however, do use some dietary laws, but as per Christ's instructions, all foods are "clean".

    Mark 7:14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.” ...
    18 ...don you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
    20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No the Bible contradicts itself. Has nothing to do with "I believe it so that makes it true" "logic"
     
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    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    In Romans it addresses one's conscience ... if someone's conscience bothers him to eat ... let's say horse meat ... then to him the horse meat is unclean.
    It pertains just for him.

    However, in Mark 7 Christ pronounced all food clean.

    If you really want to know I can be of help. I teach the Bible.
     
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    You are saying you dont know if the old testament counts, despite the fact you just said as much? Weird.

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    Did he say that?

    So cannibalism is acceptable?
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Haven't ranted at all. It is just the reality about the Bible. The only honest minister I have personally heard said quite frankly that Bible is at times contradictory, but you just had to take some part of it that speaks to you personally in the moment you are in at that instant, and hold onto it tight to get you to where you need to be. That minister was in his 80's and had been preaching his entire life and was done with the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) of pretending that the Bible was something more than it is.
     
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    Actually it wasn't your post that was logical. It made no sense and you ignore the obvious. Ranting. Emotional ranting. Sorry...it is what it is. There is animosity, anger and contempt for the Bible and God from those who avoid its light.
     
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    If you see a difference between Mark and Romans you are not someone who I would consider qualified to teach me anything, but it does not change that the New Testament instructs people not to eat animals that have been offered in sacrifice, which would be inconsistent with Romans, Mark, and Jesus.
     

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