Medvedev: Relations Between Russia & US Ruined, Are At Brink Of War

"Normal, "non aggressive", is not in the russian DNA, Russia has always been an entity in some constant upheaval.

 

Where's those 2 million ukranian refugees in Poland Jean? Ive searched everywhere, even asked my friend in kharkiv, no such thing? We're you "wrong"?

 

It's more a matter of no decent winter seaports and the paranoia that comes with cultural isolation. Germany only had the first of these problems and you see what it resorted to.

Our warmongers pick on Russia because it's easy to troll to get the wars they find so lucrative.

 

No winter seaports? What about Kaliningrad? Novorossisk?, Vladivostok? And newly " acquired" Sevastopol? You can't count on Baltics like Riga, Tallin, That's Nato territory, so you can't say there's no warm(er) water ports.

Germany didn't exactly need seaports, it had those, it needed living space(lebensraum).

 

I was talking mainly about Russia history and psychology...but the few ports you mentionstill do not equyal the access to trade and etc of other comparable powers, IMO.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/warm-water-port.htm

"...Although Russia is the predominant resident power on the Eurasian Continent, geography has been very "cruel" to her in the sense that it has left her virtually landlocked. In the north, her access to the world is frozen in winter. In the west. Europe blocks her entry into the Atlantic Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea. In the south, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan deny her a passage to the Arabian Sea. Lastly, in the east, China and Korea separate her from the South China Sea, while Vladivostok, her sole warm water port, is "neutralized" by South Korean and Japanese domination of the strait of Tsushima. Her problems were uncomfortably accentuated by the fact that her principal adversaries were the world's dominant sea power, first Great Britain, then the United States. Russian strategists have, over the last two hundred years, sought to remedy this through a steady, but relentless drive to the seas. In this respect they seem to have drawn upon the advice and thinking of two of their great strategists, Peter the Great and Prince Gorchakov.

A "warm water port" is a port where the water does not freeze in winter. Because they are available year-round, warm water ports can be of great geopolitical or economic interest, with the ports of Saint Petersburg and Valdez being notable examples. Russia needed a warm water port ..."to have a well rounded economy like China or America. As the Russian empire expanded to the East, it would also push down into Central Asia towards the sea, in a search for warm water ports...."

The Germans had limited access to fresh vegetables in winter. Why do you think they were so dependent on cabbage and etc?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...eating-as-way-of-life-and-excuse-to-celebrate

 

Under Napoleon, you mean, correct?

 

They did, when Gorbachev was in power. But everyone knows the result- complete collapse of economics in Russia and civil wars everywhere on the borders with Russian Federation.

 

Interesting points...as far as saying "landlocked", not exactly, if one looks at its northern coastline, Murmansk going east, Barents, Chukchi seas, long coastline, but in winter it's not accessible, so landlocked in a sense that it's weather makes it difficult for navigation.
Yes Germans needed cabbage and potatoes, that's where "chernozem" in the east came in handy!

 

Yeah, no. Nothing is going to happen.

Both countries understand the implications of going to war, and the costs grossly outweigh any benefits each party may get.

 

IMO if global warming continues it could actually help Russia quite a bit, not only with warm water ports, but also with increased agricultural production.

 

True, I wouldn't mind it myself, but the way "global warming" is portrayed, it seems like a gimmick IMO, some groups looking to cash in $$$ in a big way.

 

The Soviet Union Relinquished its claim to Crimea in 1991.

 

Back in 91, 68% of Crimean chose to remain within Ukraine, seems people forget!