Meet the man that invented the Holocaust

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  1. lunecat

    lunecat Active Member

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    lunecat Active Member

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    "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating
    it, people will eventually come to believe it. The
    lie can be maintained only for such time as the
    State can shield the people from the
    Political, economic and/or military
    consequences of the lie"

    Joseph Goebbels

    So so true in the case of the Holohaux.
     
  3. lunecat

    lunecat Active Member

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    Confessions under torture

    "On May 4th, 1949, Van Roden was called before the Malmedy Massacre
    Investigation of the U.S. Senate, where he was called upon to answer
    questions about his widely published statements regarding the intimidation
    and torture of the SS prisoners to obtain confessions. It immediately
    became apparent that Van Roden's public statements about the alleged
    events were untrue. Van Roden's own testimony in the Senate hearing
    disavowed his public statements.

    In the first place, the widely published statements about the destruction
    of the prisoners' testicles and similarly grotesque mistreatments were not
    written by Van Roden at all!

    The inflammatory article that appeared in the Progressive magazine and
    subsequent publications were falsely written by James Finucane, Associate
    Secretary, National Council for Prevention of War, an anti-war pacisfist
    lobbying group in Washington, D.C. Judge Van Roden disavowed the
    statements attributed to his byline by James Finucane. The claim that all
    but two of the 139 prisoners had their testicles destroyed by the kicks
    and torture of the American captors proved to be a bizarre and entirely
    fraudulent claim.

    U.S. Senator Hunt, a committee member, personally interviewed Jochen
    Peiper, Sepp Dietrich, and the other SS convicts at Landsberg Prison on 6
    September 1949 to determine the validity of their accusations of
    mistreatment. These interviews and the transcripts of the interviews
    reveal a pattern of falsehoods, gross distortions, and impossible
    fantasies. One by one, the grossly inflated allegations were proven to be
    outright false or grossly misrepresented and exagerrated. Out of the 137
    men who had claimed their "testicles were destroyed," none were destroyed.
    Although Peiper claimed a Polish Army guard damaged one of his testicles,
    examination proved he had a slightly swollen testicle and likely caused
    his own injury to give his fraudulent claim a vestige of credence. One
    convict admitted the purpose of the allegations was to save them from the
    gallows and long prison terms they had expected to escape."

    Just another example of how the Allied forces extracted false testomy in order to justify their "honourable" war & set up the lies of the Holohaux

    See the also

    "Altogether more disturbing, however, were the methods employed to extract
    statements and "confessions" at Nuremberg, particularly those from S.S.
    officers which were used to support the extermination charge. The American
    Senator, Joseph McCarthy, in a statement given to the American Press on May
    20th, 1949, drew attention to the following cases of torture to secure such
    confessions. In the prison of the Swabisch Hall, he stated, officers of the
    S.S. Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler were flogged until they were soaked in
    blood, after which their sexual organs were trampled on as they lay
    prostrate on the ground. As in the notorious Malmedy Trials of private
    soldiers, the prisoners were hoisted in the air and beaten until they signed
    the confessions demanded of them. On the basis of such "confessions"
    extorted from S.S. Generals Sepp Dietrich and Joachim Paiper, the
    Leibstandarte was convicted as a "guilty organisation". S.S. General Oswald
    Pohl, the economic administrator of the concentration camp system, had his
    face smeared with faeces and was subsequently beaten until he supplied his
    confession. In dealing with these cases, Senator McCarthy told the Press: "I
    have heard evidence and read documentary proofs to the effect that the
    accused persons were beaten up, maltreated and physically tortured by
    methods which could only be conceived in sick brains. They were subjected to
    mock trials and pretended executions, they were told their families would be
    deprived of their ration cards. All these things were carried out with the
    approval of the Public Prosecutor in order to secure the psychological
    atmosphere necessary for the extortion of the required confessions. If the
    United States lets such acts committed by a few people go unpunished, then
    the whole world can rightly criticise us severely and forever doubt the
    correctness of our motives and our moral integrity." The methods of
    intimidation described were repeated during trials at Frankfurt-am-Mein and
    at Dachau, and large numbers of Germans were convicted for atrocities on the
    basis of their admissions. The American Judge Edward L. van Roden, one of
    the three members of the Simpson Army Commission which was subsequently
    appointed to investigate the methods of justice at the Dachau trials,
    revealed the methods by which these admissions were secured in the
    Washington Daily News, January 9th, 1949. His account also appeared in the
    British newspaper, the Sunday Pictorial, January 23rd, 1949. The methods he
    described were: "Posturing as priests to hear confessions and give
    absolution; torture with burning matches driven under the prisoners
    finger-nails; knocking out of teeth and breaking jaws; solitary confinement
    and near starvation rations." Van Roden explained: "The statements which
    were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in
    solitary confinement for three, four and five months ... The investigators
    would put a black hood over the accused's head and then punch him in the
    face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses ... All
    but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in
    the testicles beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our
    American investigators." The "American" investigators responsible (and who
    later functioned as the prosecution in the trials) were: Lt.-Col. Burton F.
    Ellis (chief of the War Crimes Committee) and his assistants, Capt. Raphael
    Shumacker, Lt. Robert E. Byrne, Lt. William R. Perl, Mr. Morris Ellowitz,
    Mr. Harry Thon, and Mr. Kirschbaum. The legal adviser of the court was Col.
    A. H. Rosenfeld. The reader will immediately appreciate from their names
    that the majority of these people were "biased on racial grounds" in the
    words of Justice Wenersturm -- that is, were Jewish, and therefore should
    never have been involved in any such investigation. Despite the fact that
    "confessions" pertaining to the extemination of the Jews were extracted
    under these conditions, Nuremberg statements are still regarded as
    conclusive evidence for the Six Million by writers like Reitlinger and
    others, and the illusion is maintained that the Trials were both impartial
    and impeccably fair. When General Taylor, the Chief Public Prosecutor, was
    asked where he had obtained the figure of the Six Million, he replied that
    it was based on the confession of S.S. General Otto Ohlendorf. He, too, was
    tortured and his case is examined below. But as far as such "confessions" in
    general are concerned, we can do no better than quote the British Sunday
    Pictorial when reviewing the report of Judge van Roden: "Strong men were
    reduced to broken wrecks ready to mumble any admission demanded by their
    prosecutors."


    Al this came to light in 1949 during the Malmedy trials.

    Also see "Torture & testicle crushing during at Nuremburg trials"

    https://www.darkmoon.me/2015/torture-and-testicle-crushing-at-nuremberg/


    So if anyone tell you that they have some "flimsy" evidence of the Holhaux by confessions of ex-National Socialists prisoners. Well you can only assume they are liars & lovers of torture!
     
  4. unbiased institute

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    I suppose this is in response to what I asked you in the other thread.

    For a start the American Free Press is not an accurate, unbiased or impartial source of information.
    In fact it actually caters for and has articles provided by neo-nazi's, white supremacists and anti-semites.

    Secondly the book that was referenced isn't evidence, its conjecture at best.

    Did you actually read this before you posted it?
     
  5. Caligula

    Caligula Well-Known Member

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    Good luck in your journey "enlightening" the world.
    The amount of people out of touch with reality on this board seems to be growing by the hour.
     
  6. lunecat

    lunecat Active Member

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    The number of people that are realising that the Holocaust is a hoax is growing, thanks to the Internet.


    What next? Clamp down on the Internet? To cover the lies?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't go with that. If it is then how do you explain the vast amount of footage of the prevailing conditions within the camps post-liberation? The extermination ovens weren't built to bake bread!
     
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    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    Maybe this thread and the others like it should be moved to the history category?
     
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    Caligula Well-Known Member

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    The hopeless nutcase category is more appropirate.
     
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    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    If there's one of those, then great. I did look to see if there was a conspiracy theories category but there doesn't seem to be.
     
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    Ah,,,perfect.
     
  13. AndyBlu

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    Yep, definitely one for the looney pile.
     
  14. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wasn't this guy fervently denying that he was an anti-Semite only a little while back?

    Finally feel emboldened to show your true colours Lunecat I see.
     

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