U.S. banks should "undermine" Occupy protesters - memo By David Ingram Proof that Republicans are trying to deflect the American people to get their eyes of the ball and unmask the real villian in all of this: Republicans themselves and their criminal banker friends! Not to mention their manipulation of the Tea Party!
Why don't they return some of the bailout money, so that these people can take care of themselves better.
Really? I have no love lost for the banking industry but did you read the article you posted? And if you did, did you comprehend what you were reading? Or are you deliberately lying? Which is it? An unsolicited email selling 'research' from a third-party for-profit business that was ignored by the banking industry is a "proof" (according to you) of the Republican thuggery and criminality of the bankers? Are you for real? BTW OWS is a political movement and as such should not be immune to attempts by the opponents to undermine it within the bounds of law. What makes you think they are entitled to a free pass and a get out of jail card for each of its members? What's good for the goose is good for the gender. But that's not what's happening, at least the OP has zero evidence that anyone has tried to undermine it, the evidence in fact points to the opposite conclusion.
Where does it say that the Republicans are behind this? I see the flimsy attempt to link it to Bohner because two partners were FORMER aides. But in case you haven't noticed, the TEA Party is against the bailouts as well. Unfortunately the short sighted always attempt to make it a left vs. right thing and totally ignore the fact that there is some common ground between the TEA Party and OWS. I say some but not much, but it is a start. And besides, unless things change, no one needs to spend a dime to discredit OWS. They are doing a fine job of that all by themselves.
The difference between the Tea Party and the OWS movements is that the Tea Party thinks it was the mortgage holders irresponsibility for this mess and the OWS believes it was predatory lending and unethical security trading. While both were responsible, one group were trained professionals with special rules (ignored) in ethics in fuduciary transactions. One group took the fraudlent mort products, turned them into securities and traded them. This same group again took the now fraudently rated mort products and derivatives (unregulated securities) and used them for credit default swapping and insured the liquidity with AIG who was doing the same thing. All became supernaturally rich.(the 1%) The other group lost their jobs, houses and retirements (the 99%) Guess which group the GOP supports?
Nonsense. They are against the bailouts, they are for punishing the banks which proves that they hold banks responsible for the mess too.
Well, you're wrong. But thanks for playing. You need to take the left vs. right glasses off and look at the big picture. The GOP and the Dems are both guilty of the crony capitalism and both responsible for the mess we are in. Guess which group the OWS supports?
John Boehner's Lobbyists Plan A Massive Hit Job On Occupy Wall Street [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9HQUkFrvG4"]Up With Chris Hayes[/ame]
janpor, I like you, I really do, but sometimes, I wonder if brain worms haven't burrowed through your ear canal. OWS is anti-Wall Street and anti-banking. They are basically anti-business. Do you honestly think there would not be a reaction to their violent rhetoric and their attempts to shut down Wall Street? Do you honestly expect the targets of OWS to just sit back and allow OWS free reign without trying to discredit them? You have accused the Republicans of being behind this. You have done this with absolutely no proof and not even a scintilla of a suggestion that they are behind it. Try to get a grip on reality instead of allowing your liberal heart to cloud your thinking. And, I think they have a medication for brain worms. j/k
I will be the first to agree that both parties hold responsibility. Clinton finished of Glass Steagall. Right now only the OWS are calling for the prosecution of the financial sectors responsible. Please tell me one GOP politician that has recently asked for this, Issa is the chair and he can easily indict. The GOP candidates have said nothing but derisive remarks about OWS calling them unclean hippies.For the record, I was (and still am) for the financial bailout as was nearly the entire GOP when it happened, I feel we were very close to stone age bartering and a collapse of the capitalistic system. The OWS protesters have no set agenda, platform, or ideology, they simply want something to be done. Of course, many have different causes and some are less than worthy, others outright insane-this is the nature of protests at this level (remember Tea Party?). Oh, and your use of emoticons are the best! It really swayed my thinking, please use them often, after every sentence if you can so I can know exactly where you are coming from.
As far as I am concerned... from the super committee to the article quoted in this thread it is a very clear sign that Republicans have an intricate, well thought plan into smearing Obama's administration through manipulating this deficit cutting opportunity to bring Obama down so that they will be in the White House next time round. In some ways, they are holding the American people in ransom as these mandatory deficit cuts will inevitably affect the lower-middle class. This is what the republicans are trying to acheive precisely - through aggravating misery onto the lower-middle class from those mandatory cuts, they are trying to use the anger and resentment of the lower - middle class people to their political advantage in such a way that the Americans will no longer vote Democrats in the next Presidency and instead to the Republicans...just another outcome that works in their favour either way. We must not forget that America had its chance to not go the path of mandatory cuts but the Republicans have deliberately interfered in the super committee to ensure that a deficit bill does NOT happen. The sad thing about America is that we the people need to start to take a hard look at why the current politics is the way it is. We need to remember that the current economic situation had its seeds sowed when Bush Jr. was president and Obama is really just here to pick up the slack.
The far right has taken over the GOP. It is their mission to end Social Security, Medicare and all programs funded by the Federal gov that benefit those less fortunate enough not to be millionares. A significant amount of the electorate has drunk the kool aid served by Norquist and the Koch bros, actually believing that they have the best interests of the middle class at heart. They want smaller government that only intrudes in ways like the "Patriot Act"-a misnomer if there ever was one. They still believe, even with all the evidence to the contrary, that Free Trade is a viable ideology and that the Wall Street talking heads are still the "smartest guys in the room". This is the fight we progressives have at hand.
