Methods of Capital Punishment

Discussion in 'Human Rights' started by Warspite, May 3, 2011.

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Which methods are acceptable to you?

  1. Hanging

    46.2%
  2. Lethal Injection

    59.6%
  3. Gas Chamber

    38.5%
  4. Electric Chair

    44.2%
  5. Guillotine

    48.1%
  6. Firing Squad

    55.8%
  7. Stoning

    11.5%
  8. Burning at the stake

    13.5%
  9. Other (please describe)

    23.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Agreed--as soon as it is proved beyond any doubt that the person is guilty, the execution should take place, no reprieves, no appeals, no time wasted.
     
  2. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    The law allowed them basically to kill whomever they wanted including
    Jews, Gays, Gypsies, and developmentally disabled people .
     
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    ian New Member

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    That is incorrect. Hitler did this by decree, quite legal.
     
  5. LiberalActivist

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    Hellz yeah

    :w00t:
     
  6. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    NOOOOO! The law allowed stirilization of "incompetents" be they mentally or physically disabled, it also allowed for abortion and euthanasia, neither of which is permission "to kill whomever they wanted". The murders of the Gypsies, gays, Jews and disabled was under the TOP SECRET "Final Solution" program and was NEVER law. All the death camps were ILLEGAL, which is why they were kept as secret as possible. In the later stages of the war, many people knew about the "secret" but by that time the German state was so controlled by criminals, that no one could do anything about it. And yes, the Nazi government were criminals, since many many things they did, violated their own national laws.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    "the final solution" was TOP SECRET, it was never law, it was never a "decree".
     
  8. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    My list included "anything else humans have ever thought of".
     
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    I'm not talking about "any" human, but myself. Put ten people in the same situation and you are not going to have just one unanimous reaction. People are different and not all are capable of the same things, nor will they choose the same course of action in any given scenario.

    The torturer would have never meet the criminal or person he is going to torture to death. Someone who is able to withstand screaming and begs of mercy for hours on end while being the cause of that person's immense pain and then come back again tomorrow to torture another is a monster. Currently we even go so far as to make sure that no one person can be held solely liable when we execute someone because we know normal people will probably have to grapple with the guilt of taking another's life.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    You are mistaken, under the right conditions you would commit atrocities or what you call atrocities. It might take someone torturing your loved ones, or it might just take toothpicks under your fingernails, but, with the right stimuli, you would do anything.
     
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    I irritate, you have no idea what I nor anyone else might or might not do in any hypothetical situation. There really is no point bickering about this, it has nothing to do with being able to torture someone as your job (someone you never meet and never did you any personal harm). My point - normal people do not apply for the torture people to death job, monsters do. This will most likely never again come to fusion, but if it did I would not support my tax dollars employing a known sociopath. I do not see the death penalty as a tool for revenge.
     
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    I've seen the video of the execution, his head came off clean...
     
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    Induced coma...keep the body alive so it can become an organ donor. Parts could be surgically removed one at a time as needed while the body sustained the rest until harvest time.

    Perhaps in the future, we could remove the brain, keep it alive in a jar to 'serve' its sentence while re-using body parts.
     
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    Once again, you fail to see that when placed in certain situations, there is no such thing as a "normal human". Fear, pain and stress can cause humans to do anything they are physically capable of. That includes YOU! In some instances it might take oh, a cage (with no bottom) of hungry rats attached to your abdomen, to get you to cut someones finger off or shoot them, for many it would take much less, a gun to the head, a knife to the throat. Any human can do anything under the correct stimulus.
     
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    Nitrogen asphyxiation, if it must be done. Completely painless; unconsciousness occurs within a few breaths, and death within minutes. If they person being executed has a breath-mask on that has two different tanks (one with air, the other nitrogen), the N2 can be turned on after the air is turned off and the person wouldn't even really realize it when they go unconscious and die.
     
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    Suffocation is NOT painless, not instant and is a horrible way to die. Nitrogen is NOT poison, it is an inert gas and all it will do is cause a person to suffocate from lack of oxygen, a process taking at least 7 minutes of pure horror.

    While I have no problem with suffocating a person who killed some one in a similar way, this method is certainly NOT painless, quick and merciful.

    The only really redeeming feature of this form of killing is no lethal agent could possibly get into the atmosphere to harm anyone else, since 78% of the atmosphere is already nitrogen.
     
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    beheading is the quickest death...the victim despite stories to the contrary is unconscious the instant that all blood flow to the brain is halted...
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Nope - the fastest death is a 3 ounce charge of C-4 placed on the tongue and fired remotely. The brain does not stop, it ceases to exist, instantly.
     
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    that's not a method of execution...
     
  21. Akhlut

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    Human bodies don't register nitrogen as poisonous, nor as an agent of suffocation. One is rendered unconscious with great speed and though death might take minutes, those minutes are spent

    Persons who have inhaled atmospheres of pure nitrogen and have been revived have generally not described the experience as painful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation

    And it's painless. However, because it makes up ~78% of the atmosphere already, the human body does not register it as a poison, and thus it causes no discomfort if you're inhaling pure nitrogen instead of regular air.
     
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    What about being drawn and quartered?
     
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    Do some more research and learn what GENERALLY means. Many people experienced convulsions and seizures from Nitrogen suffocation.
     
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    That's when the brain has lost most of its O2 to such an extent that it is firing randomly. When it is randomly firing like that, coherent thought has ceased. It might look horrific to the observer, there wouldn't be suffering.

    Further, if the possibility of relatively minor suffering is too much, then give a massive amount of sedative to the person to be executed so they are unconscious, then put them in an N2-only atmosphere.
     

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