Mike Pence and others commit political suicide

And all it takes is a few common sense questions. The RINO field.....a sad line up indeed.

But Pence, wow, you damn sure ain't qualified to be President when you couldn't care less about American citizens. What an absolute bought and paid for clown.

 

WATCH: Tucker Carlson just ended Mike Pence's campaign (whether he knows it or not)

Dear lying fake news 'media: This is what journalism looks like. Mike Pence's expression after Tucker backs him into a corner to finally acknowledge Ukraine's violations of democratic norms and religious liberty is *priceless.*'

 

****er Carlson don't know anything. He also can't end something that's already dead.



This thread is so steeped in conspiracy whack-jobbery it's not even funny.

The commentator is a moron as well. he actually said "cucks and rinos". seriously stupid.

 

Wow Mike pence. There was an easy way to answer tucktard’s question. And he missed it. “I can be concerned about tanks in Ukraine and the United States at the same time.

“That’s not my concern”? Pretty much the only dumb answer he could have given there.

 

That's because he is dumb. And every other RINO gave just as ignorant of an answer to various common sense questions. Not a leader in the bunch.

 

Mike Pence committed political suicide the minute he decided to ignore Trump's criminal acts. In fact, ALL politicians who have ever associated themselves to Trump committed political suicide the FIRST time they had the opportunity to distance themselves from the disgraced, twice impeached, criminally indicted former President*... and didn't take it. Remember: ETTD. The Republican Party will only survive when a new generation takes hold and clearly and decisively purge their party of the the MAGA-fascism that now controls it.

That soundbite would be horrible in another party or in another moment. But it's not as big a deal in today's GOP. If Trump had said it, every MAGA in this thread would be like "Oh! That's not what he meant!".

 

Now Golem, surely you can do better than grade-school "MAGA-fascism" tropes?

I suggest first understanding what fascism is:

 

It isn't that they are dumb, they've just been stuck in the neocon box for so damn long they can even conceive that there might be other possibilities. Sadly their leftist allies are as bad or worse as you can tell by the assault on tucker rather than addressing the actual issues.

 

Says the dude voted for the man that helped fund the russian invasion of the Ukraine.

 

Get back to me when you have an upheld conviction...

 

Well that's true, but aren't they ignorant of the real world even though they are at home in their neocon box? They're pretty dumb. Just because they have recognizable names....does not make them intelligent.

 

You know what... I think I'm going to tag this thread. Because if Trump is nominated, there is a high likelihood that he will say something similar to this (about not caring, not about Ukraine). I wanna see MAGAs running all over each other to deny "that's what he meant".

It will also be useful when the MAGA narrative shifts to "we never opposed helping Ukraine". So it's a very interesting thread in more than one way. Hope we can get more pro-Putin MAGAs to participate so we have more on record.

 

Golem you may want to wash the Trump out of your eyes so that your posts make sense.

And most informed conservative and liberals alike oppose warmongering in places no one knows exists.

If you want to fly the "pro war" flag, be my guest.

 

He keeps using the word but it's clear he does not understand the meaning.

 

The real world in DC is approached by one of two different paradigms Harvard's or Yale's from a foreign policy perspective. That both long ago ceased to mirror anything more than a sort of loud cognitive dissonance in which two groups groups of idiot savants talk past each other concerning ideas that are now wholly disconnected from reality while packs of trained seals bark now for this one and later for the other is entirely lost upon all of the participants and almost all of official Washington. It isn't so much stupidity as it is a failure to shake off the indoctrination. When you've grown up your whole life being taught one thing it can be damn hard to accept the idea that the one thing that you always thought you could hang your hat on is, in fact, completely bonkers

 

Anybody who doesn't know Ukraine exists probably doesn't know that there have been expansionist fascist dictators in the past that we paid dearly for not stepping in on time to stop them. I can understand people who didn't know this in the 1930s. But today there is no excuse to be this ignorant.

 

Yeah but does Harvard and Yale have classes in Military Industrial Complex kickbacks and corruption? If they aren't ignorant, they are bought and paid for. I'd rather have a fool than a corrupt POS.

 

?? That makes zero sense to me.

Funny thing is, Tucker goes on and on about Vietnam and Iraq. The difference is, not a single US soldier has lost their lives in Ukraine. You can blame Biden for a lot of things, this is not one of them.

 

Yeah Golem you're right. The US promised NATO wouldn't move 1 inch east of Germany in exchange for German reunification. Since then NATO has expanded 16 times, with many of those countries being former states of the Soviet Union (which dissolved in 1991). The entire purpose of NATO was a counterbalance to the Soviet Union. Now the purpose of NATO is expansionism, energy domination and military superiority. You don't have to look far to see where the dictators are.

P.S. the former country of Yugoslavia says 'hello'

 

What the hell does that have to do with this thread? Unless... you actually DO support the Russian invasion. OMG! I was under the impression that you were complaining about the expense. Not that you REALLY supported Putin. I'll have to re-think the whole concept I had of you.

 

Newsflash Golem, the war started in 2014 when expansionist NATO/the US removed the last democratically elected President of ukraine. This is fact. Cold hard fact. And leading up to 2014 and turbo-charged thereafter by US training, Neo-nazis have become prevalent in what is now an undemocratic shithole of ukraine. The US did that. And with the genocide that happened since 2014, the Russians had enough after they were double-crossed multiple times with the Minsk Accords and other promises.

You really need to catch up Golem. Your tax dollars have been funding nazis. Even your democrat friends offered a bill to stop this funding years ago, only to do a 180 and go full bore nazi funding since last year.

NO I don't support the funding of nazis or zelensky, who conducts genocide (a continuation of Poroshenko's genocide) and other fascists in ukraine, which are many. If you would like to be educated on ukraine and their nazi problem, just ask, I will help you out.

 

Shocking!

Supporting fascism is bad enough. But supporting a foreign fascist expansionist dictator borders on.... I'm probably no allowed to say in this forum what it borders.

 

Pence lost all hope of being the GOP nominee the day he decided that respecting the Constitution was better than licking Trump's boot.

 

Seems that a lot of people assume that nobody else has a valid perspective.
The clowns in today's politics have to be Biden and Harris. Not to say others aren't qualified, just these are the most obvious and in the worst positions considering,

 

I agree with backing Ukraine 100%. It’s easy to say our cities this and our cities that are so bad and getting worse. But that problem of worsening cities is from listening to people like BLM, people who want to decriminalize drugs, people who want softer punishment, people who want to defund the police. These are state issues that you don’t want the federal government to handle. You don’t want the feds to have that power.

Many people don’t realize the economic impact of war. Why do you all think Russia wants Ukraine? It’s almost certainly to position for a positive economic impact. No war is fought without a certain economic goal. If you let adversaries shape the world you will regret it in the long run.