Misconceptions Based on Race, 'Genetics', et. al.

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  1. Egalitarianjay02

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    I'll do that as soon as you respond to my 7 lines of evidence conclusively refuting me. So far you have shown an inability to do this so until then I'm claiming victory.
     
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    I axed you to present a summary in you own woids and all you did was to present a incoherent obfusication and re-posted scientific jargon but rearranging it and trying to claim you were using your own woids....simply un-acceptable....since you believe this p.c. nonsense is so important....one last chance....summarize it in your own woids and if I seen anything worthy of comment then I will do so.

    BTW you consistently ignore most of the evidence presented in favor of heritability...either that or you simply cannot keep up.

    This being the most recent thing you have failed to respond to>>>>>http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/more-proof-that-intelligence-is-85134
     
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    More on genes and intelligence.

    'This article by Robert Plomin discusses the importance of genetics and intelligence in the development of talent. Plomin states that, "Most of what is currently known about the genetics of intelligence comes from twin and adoption studies, which have documented significant and substantial genetic influence." Genetic analyses have shown that across the life span genetic effects increase and "genetic factors are primarily responsible for stability during development but also affect age-to-age changes." Additional and focused research is needed to reveal the "magnitude of genetic effects." This article presents past and present research findings detailing the influence of genetic factors on talent development.

    Although the phrase talent development means different things to different people, talent must certainly include intelligence. The word intelligence in the title of this paper is almost as contentious in the field of gifted education as is the other noun in the title, genetics. Putting the words together to discuss genetics and intelligence may not be politically correct in our zeitgeist, but I believe that the field of gifted education has much to gain by recognizing the importance of intelligence and the importance of genetic influences in the development of this key aspect of talent.'

    http://www.davidsongifted.org/db/Articles_id_10032.aspx
     
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    I don't recall you asking me to summarize my 7 lines of evidence in my own words which would be redundant because the list is written in my own words!

    Rayznack asked my to elaborate on points 5-7 which I did but neither him or you were able to respond to my arguments.

    So for the sake of discussion, even though I don't believe you are capable of replying to it, here is that list again.

    7 lines of Evidence for the Environmental interpretation of racial IQ gaps

    1. Studies showing ability tests that correlate up to 80% or 90% with IQ indicate that Black IQ is converging on White IQ.

    2. Racial Admixture studies with 5 different types of designs indicate low correlation between high Black IQ and degree of White Ancestry.

    3. Several Adoption Studies support an environmental model.

    4. Intervention Programs show that Black IQ can be boosted.

    5. Genome-wide Association Studies do not support the claim of racial differences in intelligence.

    6. Anthropological and Archaeological research does not support the racialist position.

    7. Population Genetics Research and Evolutionary Biology does not support the racialist position.


    Elaboration on points 5-7

    5. Genome-wide Association Studies do not support the claim of racial differences in intelligence

    - Genome-wide Association Studies demonstrate that intelligence is highly polygenic. Genome-wide Association Studies as a method is highly problematic.
    Even in the best of such studies such as those on height only about 11% of the variance can be explained by a reasonable number of loci (8-10). The remainder of the variance was explained by over 1000 loci. Studies of genome-wide association studies and intelligence associated variants in Europeans could not be replicated. Fst values for intelligence associated variants found in literature gave no indication of racial association.

    Source: Race, Genomics and Intelligence: Slight Return by Joseph Graves

    6. Anthropological and Archaeological research does not support the racialist position

    - Anthropological research shows that human intelligence is an important trait with equal survival value. Traits of this nature do not show average differences between populations unlike traits of adaptive significance that differ depending on the environment. Human intelligence evolved with the slow emergence of linguistic behavior which is supported by biological data. The archaeological record shows that human survival strategies were the same during the Pleistocene Epoch indicating a commonality of general cognitive ability.

    Sources:

    1. An Anthropological Perspective on "Race" and Intelligence: The Non-Clinal Nature of Human Cognitive Capabilities Journal of Anthropological Research, Vol. 55, No. 2, 3 JAR Distinguished Lectures (Summer, 1999), pp. 245-264

    2. Africanist Archaeology and Ancient IQ: Racial Science and Cultural Evolution in the Twenty-First Century World Archaeology, Vol. 38, No. 1, Race, Racism and Archaeology (Mar., 2006), pp. 72-92

    7. Population Genetics Research and Evolutionary Biology does not support the racialist position.

    - Research indicates that intelligence is a polygenic trait. As such for the hereditarian theory to be true there would have to be differences between geographic populations at thousands of loci for there to be genetic differences related to intelligence between races. Hereditarians have never been able to demonstrate mechanistically how such a phenomenon is even possible therefore their scenario is ridiculous. Population genetic theory predicts that traits controlled by many genes do not show a clinal distribution for the trait. Instead the genes controlling the trait are scattered within the population. The scientific literature also indicates that natural selection for intelligence is uniform throughout the world. Furthermore based on scientific knowledge of human evolution all human populations have a commonality in intelligence. The evidence for this is that humans descend primarily from one distinct evolutionary lineage and humans became anatomically and behaviorally modern in Africa. There is no evidence from an evolutionary standpoint for human intelligence evolving differently in different regions and the recent emergence of our species (based on evolutionary time scales) indicate that there was no time for such an event to occur.

    Sources:

    1. The Pseudoscience of Psychometry and The Bell Curve The Journal of Negro Education, Vol. 64, No. 3, Myths and Realities: African Americans and the Measurement of Human Abilities (Summer, 1995), pp. 277-294

    2. What a tangled web he weaves: Race, reproductive strategies and Rushton’s life history theory Anthropological Theory Vol 2(2): 131–154 (2002)



    Have fun responding to that. As for your link it doesn't advance your argument that there are racial differences in intelligence. I already accept that intelligence is highly heritable and that scientists are making breakthroughs in our understanding of the biological underpinnings regulating intelligence.

    My contention throughout this thread has been that there are no genetic differences related to intelligence between human races. You seem to have a very hard time understanding this.
     
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    The consensus amongst scientists is that of yet there is no concrete scientific proof one way or the other that shows the exact mechanisms that determine the extent to which enivornmental factors influence intelligence...everyone believes it plays some role...the overwhelming evidence indicates it is the minor role.

    'While the effect of environment can not reasonably be dismissed as a factor on intelligence, a much more stringent argument has been and continues to be waged. This argument centers on the effect of genetics and heritability on the development of intelligence in humans. Genetic determination is the combination of genes that makes us what we are, or creates a characteristic. For example, our genes determine that we have five toes. Heritability, contrastingly, is what causes differences in those characteristics. For example, how genetic differences cause a variation in the number of toes: some people are born with six toes. An estimate of the heritability of a trait tries to indicate how much of the variance of that given trait is due to genetic differences. This number is characterized by a decimal, or .XX. Some have argued that this estimate is as high as .75, meaning that fully 75% of all IQ variances can be attributed to genetic differences. Studies have shown this to be high, except in monozygotic (MZ) twins raised together. These twins share the same exact genotype. In this case, the correlation was as high as .88. In the study of MZ twins raised apart, the correlation was as high as .75. In contrast, Dizygotic twins, who share 50% of their genes on average, had a correlation factor of .53 when growing up together and .46 when raised separately. This seems to indicate that similarity of a genetic component has a direct influence on IQ scores. At the very least, it indicates a much higher influence than that of non-related children having a correlation of just .17' (Loehlin, Lindzey, and Spuhler, 1975).

    http://allpsych.com/journal/iq/

    Also...............There is no doubt anthropology and genetics are influenced greatly by sociology (ie political correctness). There are some people who want every anthropological and genetic study to conform to a certain world view. Did we forget that the same thing happened in the 30's with the NAZIs? Shouldn't we leave anthropology and genetics to SCIENCE?

    Your sources are primarily those who have a bias.....part of the movement to upgrade blacks at any cost....including the truth. Your own bias is very clear....and we should also remember the scientists that have been demonized for daring to pursue genetic research and most especially if they publish anything that conflicts with political correctness.

    You do not even understand or you attempt to downplay the latest scientific discovery regarding genes and intelligence................http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sci...elligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html





    Richard Lynn, one of the leading researchers on intelligence and personality and the author of several major books on IQ and personality research, summarizes in this landmark work what one scholar has described as “the definitive study of race differences in intelligence.” Since 1977, Richard Lynn has blazed a pioneering trail of research on racial differences in IQ. In previous books and scientific articles, Lynn has explored dysgenic trends in intelligence, sex differences in IQ, psychopathic personality traits, and the dimensions of personality and national character. In this book, Lynn analyzes the results of over 500 published studies that span tem population groups—races and sub-races worldwide—in what is certain to be a path-breaking book for IQ experts and educated laypersons alike. This comprehensive review of worldwide racial differences of general intelligence explores the formation of races, meaning of intelligence, validity of race differences in IQ, environmental and genetic correlates of intelligence, the relationship between brain size and intelligence, the evolution of racial differences in intelligence, and the factor of racial hybrids. In a relentlessly methodical approach, Lynn expands upon an extensive array of research findings from the biomedical and social sciences, including the latest studies from the fields of behavior genetics, evolutionary psychology, and anthropology in reaching his thought-provoking conclusions. Extensively referenced, this exhaustive study of race and IQ is a milestone accomplishment and should serve as the yardstick by which future research is measured. "The IQs of the races…can be explained as having arisen from the different environments in which they evolved, and in particular from the ice ages in the northern hemisphere exerting selection pressures for greater intelligence for survival during cold winters; and in addition from the appearance of mutations for higher intelligence appearing in the races with the larger populations and under the greatest cold stress. The IQ differences between the races explain the differences in achievement in making the Neolithic transition from hunter-gathering to settled agriculture, the building of early civilizations, and the development of mature civilizations during the last two thousand years. The position of environmentalists that over the course of some 100,000 years peoples separated by geographical barriers in different parts of the world evolved into ten different races with pronounced genetic differences in morphology, blood groups, and the incidence of genetic diseases, and yet have identical genotypes for intelligence, is so improbable that those who advance it must either be totally ignorant of the basic principles of evolutionary biology or else have a political agenda to deny the importance of race. Or both." From Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis

    http://www.amazon.com/Race-Differen...ry-Analysis/dp/159368021X?tag=duckduckgo-d-20
     
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    So as I predicted you are incapable of responding to the evidence I presented and choose once again to spam links that are of no relevance to the discussion.
     
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    The vast majority of the following facts can be easily verified in any set of encyclopedias, almanacs, psychology text, and other reference materials commonly found in any public library.

    The White race has crossed seas, harnessed rivers, carved mountains, tamed deserts, and colonized the most barren icefields. It has been responsible for the invention of the printing press, cement, the harnessing of electricity, flight, rocketry, astronomy, the telescope, space travel, firearms, the transistor, radio, television, the telephone, the lightbulb, photography, motion pictures, the phonograph, the electric battery, the automobile, the steam engine, railroad transportation, the microscope, computers, and millions of other technological miracles. It has discovered countless medical advances, incredible applications, scientific progress, etc. Its members have included such greats as Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Homer, Tacitus, Julius Ceaser, Napoleon, William the Conqueror, Marco Polo, Washington, Jefferson, Hitler, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Magellan, Columbus, Cabot, Edison, GrahamBell, Pasteur, Leeuwenhoek, Mendel, Darwin, Newton, Galileo, Watt, Ford, Luther, Devinci, Poe, Tennyson, and thousands upon thousands of other notable achievers. (37) (39)

    Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the Black African Negro has invented nothing. Not a written language, weaved cloth, a calendar, a plow, a road, a bridge, a railway, a ship, a system of measurement, or even the wheel. (Note: This is in reference to the pure-blooded Negro.) He is not known to have ever cultivated a single crop or domesticated a single animal for his own use (although many powerful and docile beasts abounded around him.) His only known means of transporting goods was on the top of his hard burry head. For shelter he never progressed beyond the common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver or muskrat is capable. (21) (39)

    INTELLIGENCE
    The I.Q.'s of American Negroes are from 15 to 20 points, on average, below those of American Whites.

    These Black\White differences have been demonstrated repeatedly by every test ever conducted by every branch of the U.S. Military, every state, county, and local school board, the U.S. Dept. of Education, etc. The same ratio of difference has held true over a 40 year period. (18) (26) (24)

    With an average I.Q. of 85, only 16% of Blacks score over 100, while half the White population does. The Negro overlap of White median I.Q.'s ranges from 10 to 25 percent-- equality would require 50 percent. (31) (27) (16)

    Blacks are 6 times as likely to have I.Q.'s of 50 to 70 which put them in the slow learner (retarded) category, while Whites are ten times more likely to score 130 or over. (15) (16) (18) (23)

    The U.S. government's PACE examination, given to 100,000 university graduates who are prospective professional or administrative civil-service employees each year, is passed with a score of 70 or above by 58% of the whites who take it but by only 12% of the Negroes. Among top scorers the difference between Negro and White performance is even more striking: 16% of the white applicants make scores of 90 or above, while only one-fifth of one percent of a Negro applicants score as high as 90--a White/Black success ration of 80/1. (27)

    Differences between Negro and White children increase with chronological age, the gap in performance being largest at the high school and college levels. (31) (26)
    White/Negro I.Q. differences are constantly excused as results of environmental variations. but at least five studies that have attempted to equate socio-economic backgrounds of the two races indicate no significant change in relative results. As environment improves, the Negro does better but so does the White. The gap is not decreased. (26) In fact, extensive research by DR. G.J. McGurk, associate Professor of Psychology at Villanove University, reveals that the gap in intelligence between Blacks and Whites INCREASES where socio-economic levels of both races are raised to the middle classes.

    FACT #10: In 1915, Dr. G.W. Ferfuson took 1000 school children in Virginia, divided them into 5 racial categories, and tested them for mental aptitude. On average. full-blooded Negroes scored 69.2% as high as Whites. Three-quarter Negroes scored 73.0% as high as Whites. One-half Negroes scored 81.2% as high as Whites. One-quarter Negroes scored 91.8% as high as Whites. All of these Blacks lived as and considered themselves "Negroes." Their environments and "advantages" or disadvantages were exactly the same. (14) Also see (26) pg 452.

    FACT #11: Results of the Army Beta test given by the U.S. Army to over 386,000 illiterate soldiers in WWI showed Negro draftees to be "inferior to the Whites on all types of tests used in the Army." Additionally, tests were conducted upon pure Negroes, Mulattoes, and Quadroons. It was found that "the lighter groups made better scores." (14)

    FACT #12: Studies conducted with identical twins raised apart in radically different environments provide conclusive evidence that over-all influence of heredity exceeds that of environment in a ratio of about 3 to 1. (41)

    FACT #13: Even when Blacks and Whites have the same backgrounds, in terms of family income and childhood advantages, Blacks still have average I.Q. scores 12 to 15 points lower than comparable Whites. This includes cases where Black children have been adopted by White parents. Their I.Q.s may be improved by environment, but they are still closer to their biological parents than their adoptive parents. (3) (15) (26)

    FACT #14: Equalitarian ideologists often discount I.Q. test results with the excuse that they are culturally biased. Nonetheless, NO ONE, not the NAACP nor the United Negro College Fund, nor NEA had been able to develop an intelligence test which shows Blacks and Whites scoring equally. (15) (42) (3)

    FACT # 15: American Indians, who often live in conditions far worse than American Blacks during their entire lives, still consistently outscore them on I.Q. tests. (3) (27)

    FACT #16: The offspring of interracial marriages tend to have lower I.Q.s than the white parent. (11) (26)

    THE NEGRO BRAIN

    FACT #17: Among human races numerous studies have been made of the comparative weight of White and Negro brains with results that fell within the range of about an 8-12 percent lower weight for the Negro brain. Such studies have been conducted by Bean, Pearl, Vint, Tilney, Gordon, Todd, and others. (23) (27)

    FACT #18: In addition to the difference in brain weight, the Negro brain grows less after puberty than the white. Though the Negro brain and nervous system mature faster than the white brain, its development is arrested at an earlier age which limits further intellectual advancement. (22) (27)

    FACT #19: The thickness of the supragranular layer (the outside layer) of the Negro brain is about 15 percent thinner, and its convolutions are fewer and more simple, on average, than that of the White brain. (9)

    FACT #20: The frontal lobes of the Negro brain, responsible for abstract conceptional reasoning, are smaller relative to body weight, less fissured, and less complex than those of the White brain. (9) (27) (23) (22)

    ANTHROPOLOGY


    FACT #21: The name Homo sapien was first used by the 18th Century Swedish botanist Carolus Linnaeus. The word "sapien" means "wise." The name was originally used to speak of the White man and synonymous with "europaeus." As a result, many later taxonomists and geneticists believed that Negroes and other races should be classified as different species. In fact, Darwin declared in The Descent of Man that the varieties of mankind are so distinct that similar differences found in any other animal would warrant their classification in different species, if not different genera. (39)

    FACT #22: For his mammoth work, The Origin of Races, Professor Carleton Coon, President of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists and the premier geneticist of the world, assembled massive evidence from geography, anatomy, genetics, physiology, comparative dentition, linguistics, archeology, and fossil records from 300 bone-bearing sites to verify his theory of pre-sapien racianation." In other words, Homo erectus was divided by race even before evolution into Homo sapien stage. (12)
     
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    Cont. fr. above

    FACT #23: According to Dr. Coon, while the Caucasoid subspecies (the White race) was evolving in Europe, the Negro race was standing still on the evolutionary plane and is today no less than 200,000 years behind the European in skull and brain development. (9)

    FACT #24: The Negro skull, in addition to having a smaller brain volume and thicker cranial bones than that of the White, is prognathous; i.e., the lower face projects forward, rather in the manner of an animal's muzzle. In consequence, the Negro jaw is substantially longer, relative to its width, than the White jaw. A feature of the Negro lower jaw is its retention of a vestige of the "simian shelf," a bony region immediately behind the incisors. The simian shelf is a distinguishing characteristic of apes, and it is absent in Whites. (9) (12) (39)

    FACT #25: The skin of the Negro is thicker and possibly superior to the White's in the way it impedes the penetration of germs and in its protection from the ultraviolet rays of the sun. (39) (14)

    FACT #26: The dark color of the Negro is due to melanin pigment which is spread through every layer of the skin and is found even in the muscles and brain. (9) (27)

    FACT #27: An African dentist can tell a Negro's tooth from a white man's at a glance. (14)

    FACT #28: Negroes have arms which are longer, relative to body height, than those of Whites. This feature, together with their much thicker cranial bones, gives Black athletes an advantage over Whites in boxing. The skeletal and muscular peculiarities of Negroes' lower limbs have given them considerable success as sprinters, but have left them relative undistinguished as distance runners. (39) (27)

    FACT #29: ADDITIONAL DIFFERENCES

    The hair is black, crispy, and "woolly" in texture, it is flat and elliptical with no central canal or duct like the hair of Europeans.
    The nose is thick, broad and flat, often turned up nostrils exposing the red inner lining of the mucous membrane similar to an ape.
    The arms and legs of the Negro are relatively longer than the European. The humerus is a trifle shorter and the forearm longer thereby approximating the simian form.
    The eyes are prominent, iris black and the orbits large. The eye often has a yellowish sclerotic coat over it like that of a gorilla.
    The Negro has a shorter trunk the cross-section of the chest is more circular than whites. The pelvis is narrower and longer as it is in an ape.
    The mouth is wide with very thick, large and protruding lips.
    Negro skin has a thick superficial horny layer which resists scratching and impedes the penetration of germs.
    The Negro has a larger and shorter neck akin to that of anthropoids.
    The cranial sutures are more simple than in the white type and close together earlier.
    The ears are roundish, rather small, standing somewhat high and detached thus approaching the simian form.
    The Negro is more powerfully developed from the pelvis down and the white more powerfully developed in the chest.
    The jaw is larger and stronger and protrudes outward which, along with lower retreating forehead, gives a facial angle of 68 to 70 degrees as opposed to a facial angle of 80 to 82 degrees for Europeans.
    The hands and fingers are proportionally narrower and longer. The wrist and ankles are shorter and more robust.
    The frontal and paricial bones of the cranium are less excavated and less capacious. The skull is thicker especially on the sides.
    The brain of the Negro on the average is 9 to 20% smaller than whites.
    The teeth are larger and are wider apart than in the white race.
    The three curvatures of the spine are less pronounced in the Negro than in the white and thus more characteristic of an ape.
    The femur of the Negro is less oblique, the tibia (shin bone) more curved and bent forward, the calf of the leg high and but little developed.
    The heel is broad and projecting, the foot long and broad but slightly arched causing flat soles, the great toe is shorter than in the white.
    The two bones proper of the nose are occasionally united, as in apes.

    FACT #30: Blood group studies made during WWII suggest the American Negro gene pool is about 28% white. --This despite all manner of institutional discrimination, social segregation, etc. Keep in mind that the results of test from true Black Africans would show even bigger differences from Whites. (32) (14)

    CRIME

    FACT #31: The rate at which Blacks commit murder is thirteen times that of Whites; Rape and assault, ten times. These figures, as given by the F.B.I. reports, vary somewhat from year to year but fairly represent the trend for the past decade. (27) (6) (13)

    FACT #32: According to the justice Dept, 1 in every 4 Black males between the ages of 20 and 29 is currently in prison or on probation or parole. (32) (6) (3)

    FACT #33: Though only 12% of the U.S. population, Blacks commit more than half of all rapes and robberies and 60% of all murders in the U.S. (32) (27) (6)

    FACT #34: Approximately 50% of all Black males will be arrested and charged with a serious felony during their lifetime. (27)

    FACT #35: A Black person is 56 TIMES more likely to attack a White person than Vice Versa. (3) (32)

    FACT #36: Black rapists choose White victims over half (54.9%) of the time, 30X as often as Whites choose Blacks. (2) (32) (28)

    FACT #37: The annual report from the Department of justice shows that when Whites commit violence they do it to Blacks 2.4% of the time. Blacks, on the other hand, choose White victims MORE THAN HALF the time. (3)

    FACT #38: In New York City, any White is over 300 TIMES MORE LIKELY to be assaulted by a gang of Blacks than is a Black by a gang of Whites. (32)

    FACT #39: Many people argue that hig
     
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    FACT #40: Many people believe that crime is a product of poverty and lack of "advantages." However, the District of Columbia, which enjoys the highest average annual salaries and is second only to Alaska in personal income per capita, leads the nation in just about every category of crime including murder, robbery, aggravated assault, and vehicle theft. D.C. also has the country's strictest gun control, highest police costs per capita, highest ration of police and correctional officers per citizen, and highest rate of incarceration. Its permanent population is over 80% Black. West Virginia, which has the nation's lowest crime rate, suffers from chronic poverty and has the highest unemployment in the U.S. It also has the fewest police per capita. West Virginia is over 96% White. (33)

    THE BLACK FAMILY

    FACT #41 46% of inner city Black men between the ages of 16 and 62 are unemployed. (27)

    FACT #42: More than 66% of the children of Negroes are born out of wedlock. Per capita, their illegitimacy rate is ten times that of Whites. (32) (27)

    FACT #43: Blacks are four and a half times more likely than Whites to be on welfare. (32)

    FACT #44: More than 35% of all Black men in U.S. Cities are drug or alcohol abusers. (27)

    BEAUTY

    FACT #45: The January l986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe, stated that in any given race, the women tend to have lighter complexions than the men. Using standard ethnographic files from 51 societies on five continents which have recorded their preference for human skin color, the study found that 30 preferred lighter women and 14 preferred lighter women and lighter men. The cultures of India, China, Brazil and Bali, as well as the Arabs and Negroes regard the lightest women as the most beautiful. --perpetuating the aesthetic appeal of the ivory-skinned, rosy-cheeked, blue-eyed, blond "nordic ideal" of feminine beauty- -even though they themselves do not possess the genetic capacity to reproduce such an organism. Over time, the study said, the upper classes of all races have become lighter-skinned than their fellow countrymen because they have repeatedly skimmed off fairer women from the lower classes. (Also see #11)

    FACT #46: Scientific research on what constitutes human beauty, in which 300 judges of various backgrounds were shown portrait photographs and asked to rate the beauty of the individual's face, has revealed that nordic Whites are universally recognized as the most attractive humans, even by Blacks. The judges were instructed to evaluate the faces solely on his or her "personal standards of beauty and not to consider popular norms." The results of the study "Age, Sex, Race, and the Perception of Facial Beauty." Developmental Psychology, 5, Nov., 1971, pp 433-439, are reprinted below.

    GROUP BEAUTY RATINGS
    IN CROSS AND CROSS STUDY



    JUDGES' GROUP GIVEN
    CHARACTERISTICS HIGHEST RATING
    --------------- --------------
    Age 7 white males white adolescent males
    Age 7 black males white adolescent males
    Age 7 white females white adolescent females
    Age 7 black females 3-way tie:
    black adolescent females,

    white adolescent females,

    white female children
    Age 12 white males white adolescent females
    Age 12 black males white adolescent females
    Age 12 white females white adolescent females
    Age 12 black females white adolescent females
    Age 17 white males white adolescent females
    Age 17 black males white adolescent females
    Age 17 white females white adolescent females
    Age 17 black females white adolescent females
    Adult white males white adolescent females
    Adult black males white adolescent females
    Adult white females white adolescent males
    Adult black females white adolescent females


    FACT #47: In experiments in which Black children have been left to themselves with White and Black dolls, it has been found tha most of the them would rather play with White dolls. This is true all over the world. Even in such places as Tobago. (32) (22) (23)

    AMERICAN HISTORY

    FACT #48: The Declaration of Independence, which contains the oft-repeated phrase ". . . all men are created equal . . ." was written by Thomas Jefferson, who owned about 200 slaves at the time and never set any of them free, including the mulattoes and quadroons. Jefferson's words certainly had no reference to Negroes, who at that time had no place in American society except as property. (27) (38) (31)

    FACT #49: The Constitution was written by and for 'We the people" and dedicated to "ourselves and our posterity," All of the 55 delegates that met in Philadelphia to draft the Constitution and all of the members of the 13 state conventions that ratified it were of the White race. (38)

    WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY OF 1828 defines Posterity as: POSTERITY. 1. Descendants; children, children's children, etc. indefinitely; the race that proceeds from a progenitor. 2. In a general sense, succeeding generations; opposed to ancestors. . .

    FACT #50: The 14th Amendment is invalid for the following reasons:

    It was never ratified by three-fourth of all the States in the Union according to Article 5 of the U.S. Constitution. Out of 37 States, 16 had rejected it.
    Many of the States who were counted as ratifying it, were compelled to do so under duress of military occupation. Any legal act entered into under force duress, and coercion is automatically null and void.
    The fact that 23 Senators had been unlawfully excluded from the U.S. Senate, shows that the Joint Resolution proposing the Amendment was not submitted to or adopted by a constitutional Congress.
    The intent of the 14th Amendment is repugnant to the original U.S. Constitution and the Organic Law of the land. It did not, and could not, repeal anything that was part of the Organic Law. Therefore the principles of precedent and stare decisis render it void. (23)

    FACT #51: In Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation of Sept. 1862 he said: "I have urged the colonization of the Negroes, (back to Africa), and I shall continue. My Emancipation Proclamation was linked with this plan (of colonization). There is no room for two distinct races of White men in America, much less for two distinct races of Whites and Blacks. . . . I can think of no greater calamity than the assimilation of the negro into our social and political life as our equal . . . Within twenty years we can peacefully colonize the Negro . . . under conditions in which he can rise to the full measure of manhood. This he can never do here. We can never attain the ideal union our fathers dreamed, with millions of an alien, inferior race among us, whose assimilation is neither possible nor desirable." (27)

    FACT #52: Lincoln actually proposed an amendment to the constitution that would've authorized congress to recolonize all freed Blacks back to Africa. On Aug. 15, l962, Congress did appropriate over half a million dollars for that purpose. Thousands of Negroes had been shipped back when Lincoln was shot. (27)

    WASHINGTON D.C.

    FACT #53: The District of Columbia, which is approximately 70% Black, leads the U.S. in many areas:

    The nations highest crime rates
    Strictest gun control
    Highest incarceration rates
    Highest birthrate
    Highest death rate
    Highest rate of federal assistance per capita
    Highest number of welfare recipients per capita
    Highest rate of illegitimacy
    Highest high school dropout rate even though its teachers are the highest paid in the U.S.
    Highest rate of ghonnorrhea and syphilis
    Highest incidence of AIDS (33) (32)

    PORTUGAL

    FACT #54: Populated by White stock, the nation of Portugal rose in four centuries to be the wealthiest most powerful country in the world. A great commercial and maritime power, it had large colonies in Asia, Africa, and America. Its seamen were the first to explore western Africa and they brought back hundreds of Negro slaves. By 1550, at the height of Portugal's power, one-tenth of its population were Blacks. Today, Portugal's population is described as one of the most homogeneous in Europe, having slowly absorbed the Negro gene pool. As of l975 it had lost all of its outside territories. Its workers are the lowest paid in Europe and they have the highest rate of illiteracy and a high infant mortality rate. In terms of art, literature, music, science and philosophy the "new" Portugal has produced virtually nothing in 100 years and by most standards is the most backward nation in Europe. *Keep in mind that the Black population of the U.S. is approximately 13%. (27)

    HAITI

    FACT #55: The Republic of Haiti, the only co
     
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    FACT #55: The Republic of Haiti, the only completely Black republic in the Western Hemisphere also happens to be the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. It also has the lowest life expectancy, highest illiteracy, lowest per capita consumption of newsprint, lowest per capita GNP, and the lowest level of political stability. (27)

    FACT #56: Haiti once had a promising future. Before 1789 as a French colony under White rule, San Domingo (Haiti) was as rich or richer in productivity as all the 13 American Colonies combined. It was considered the "crown jewel" of the French colonial system, and was in fact the most prosperous colony anywhere in the world. Populated by 40,000 Whites, 27,000 freed Mulattoes, and 450,000 Black slaves and with a bountiful climate and productive soil, it supplied all of France and half of Europe with sugar, coffee, and cotton. But in 1791, the French government issued a decree ordering Haiti to give the vote to the Mulattoes, and soon after another ordering freedom for all the slaves. This resulted in a bloody civil war in which the entire White population (about 40,000 Frenchmen) was murdered, down to the last man, woman, and child. Rape, decapitation, and mutilation were committed almost universally upon their bodies. (22) (23)

    FACT #57: After the Blacks massacred the last of the White population in 1804, Haiti remained a part of Santa Domingo, until 1844 when it became a separate "republic." Between 1844 and 1915 only one Haitian president completed his term in office. Fourteen were ousted by armed uprisings, one was blown up, one was poisoned and another was hacked to pieces by a mob. Between 1908 and 1915 the revolutions and assassinations increased so rapidly that a United States military occupation was needed to restore order. This lasted from 1915 to 1934. Thereafter followed twelve years of rule by a Mulatto elite which ended in the resumption of control by the Black military in 1946. Since then wholesale corruption and political murder have been the rule. (23)

    INDIA

    FACT #58: India's Negroid peoples have been subjected to numerous White invasions for over 5000 years, prompting the rise and fall of one civilization after another as the White invaders became absorbed into the non-White masses. Then, about 1800 B.C. Aryans again invaded from the northwest, this time establishing a rigid caste ("varna." meaning color) system of White supremacy which eventually evolved into an integral part of the Hindu religion. Interracial mixing was banned and punishable by death. (5) (37)

    FACT #59: Led by an Aryan ruling class, Classical India blossomed into a great culture, giving expression to philosophy, poetry, science, mathematics, and literature. The land prospered as never before --or after.

    FACT #60: The caste system lasted about 2,000 years (probably longer than any civilization under similar racial circumstances.) However, eventually the castes broke down due to miscegenation and by modern times virtually no pure Whites were remaining. (39) (37) (10)

    FACT #61: Today, India has 834 million people who speak 150 different languages and dialects. When the annual rainfall is insufficient, they die of starvation at a rate of 2,000,000 to 6,000,000 per year. India has the highest birthrate in Asia, one of the lowest per capita incomes in the world, and an illiteracy rate close to 70%. (35) (33)

    EGYPT

    FACT #62: Ancient Egypt was founded and built by Mediterranean Caucasians as far back as 4500 B.C. Egypt's period of greatness was from 3400 B.C. to 1800 B.C. and was characterized by its amazing architecture, pyramids, temples, and mastery of mathematics and engineering, the remnants of which are still evident today. The White Egyptians pioneered medicine, chemistry, astronomy, and law; In many cases, their achievements remain unequalled. (37) (39) (21)

    FACT #63: But, about 3400 B.C. Egypt civilization began to spread up the Nile River, bringing it in close contact with the black Nubians to the south. Soon they were using Blacks for slave labor and Egypt became history's first melting pot. (39) (10) (14)

    FACT # 64: In time the infusion of Negro blood worked itself up from the bottom of Egyptian society. The slaves were eventually freed, received political equality, and took posts of authority in government. (10) (37)

    FACT #65: By the time of King Tut (1370-1352 B.C.) even the ruling classes had been mongrelized and Egypt began a tailspin downward. Today, the once-mighty Egypt is very much a Third World country, having lost its art, its medicine, its architectural ability, and its position in world affairs. (10) (37)

    The absurd notion that Ancient Egypt was a product of Negro ingenuity is now being widely disseminated in the schools. Though scholars know this is a blatant lie, they justify the deception by assuming it will boost the "self-esteem" of Black children.

    SOUTH AFRICA
    (Note: These facts will most likely change drastically now that South Africa has fallen under black rule.)

    FACT #66: White people have lived in South Africa much longer than Negroes. There have been White settlements in South Africa for over 300 years, about the same length of time Europeans have lived in North America. Even 150 years after the first colonies around Capetown, at the beginning of the 19th Century, there still were no Blacks within 500 miles. The Blacks wandered in from central Africa later on, possibly fleeing the slave trade or due to famine. In fact, most of South Africa's Blacks were born in other countries. (29) (8) (14)

    FACT #67: South Africa is by far the wealthiest and most advanced country in Africa, producing nearly 75% of the continent's Gross National Product. It is almost completely self- sufficient so boycotts have little affect upon its economy. In fact most of Africa is dependent upon South Africa. South Africa is governed by a Western parliamentary republic and strictly segregated racially. South Africa grants complete self-government to the Blacks in their own areas of the country. (29) (8) (14)

    FACT #68: Though South Africa is perpetually criticized by the world press for its racial separatism, its Blacks live better than the Blacks of any other African country and are multiplying rapidly and healthily. 87% of Black welfare costs are being paid by the White man. This includes food, clothing, training, housing, education an health care. --even old age pensions. (14)

    FACT #69: Thousands of South African Blacks graduate from college every year, more than three times as many as in the rest of Africa combined. Every Black child is within walking distance of a primary school. Africa's largest hospital, which serves Blacks almost exclusively and performs over 1800 operations per month, is in South Africa. (14)

    FACT #70: The Blacks of South Africa own more cars than do all the citizens of the Soviet Union. (29)
     
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    cont...........................FACT #70: The Blacks of South Africa own more cars than do all the citizens of the Soviet Union. (29)

    FACT #71: South Africa has more Black doctors, lawyers, professional people, and millionaires than all of the rest of the world combined. (8)

    FACT #72: In fact, conditions are "so bad" for Blacks in South Africa that the country has a tremendous problem with illegal Black immigration, having over one million illegal foreign workers. (14) (29)

    ICELAND

    FACT #73-75: Iceland, the only all-White nation in the world, has the world's highest literacy rate. 100%. It is an island of cooled volcanic magma, located Just south of the Arctic Circle. It has no coal, no fuel, no timber, no mineral wealth or natural resources, and no navigable rivers. 75% of the interior is uninhabitable and only about 1% of the land is arable. It is the youngest nation in Europe and one of the most isolated countries in the world. Nonetheless, Iceland is #2 in the world in life expectancy and has one of the world's highest standards of living, in terms of per capita income. It has tremendous medical facilities and a thriving publishing business. Virtually every family has a telephone. Upon graduation from high school, each Icelandic student has learned five languages. (33)

    MARTIN LUTHER KING

    FACT #75-77: On Jan. 31, 1977, Martin Luther King's FBI records were sealed by court order until the year 2027 because, as his wife said, "its release would destroy his reputation" These records are rumored to contain instances of bizarre sexual perversion and homosexuality, and proof that King was under the direct orders of Soviet spies and financed by the Communist Party.

    FACT #78: The Wall Street Journal (Nov.9, 1990) disclosed that Stanford University editors of The Papers of Martin Luther King Jr. have long known that King was guilty of plagiarism in his l955 Boston University doctoral thesis, having lifted significant portions from the works of other writers and graduate students.

    FACT #79: Martin Luther King frequently enjoyed prostitutes and paid for them with his church's money. Still, congress has voted to make King's birthday a national holiday, in most places replacing Columbus Day or Washington's Birthday as an official observance.

    FACT #80: Almost every state in the union has a King holiday, and almost every city has a King Boulevard or King Civic Center. Yet the electoral evidence suggests that Americans will almost always vote down honors for King when given a chance. (41)

    MISCELLANEOUS

    FACT #81: The entire continent of Africa, perhaps Earth's richest land, accounts for only 3% of world trade. (27)

    FACT #82-84: Almost all Blacks who have been leaders in fields other than athletics or music have had some White ancestry: Fredick Douglas, W.E.B. Dubois, Booker T. Washington, George Washington Carver, Alex Hailey, Thurgood Marshall, Bryant Gumbell, Colin Powell, Carl Rowan, Ed Bradley, Doug Wilder, etc. According to Dr. E.B. Reuter, ". . . Of successful and best known men that the Negro race has produced, at least thirteen- fourteenths are men of mixed blood. (27) (21)

    FACT #85: Blacks are 50 times more likely to have syphilis than Whites. (32)

    FACT #86: Twice as many Blacks as Whites receive dishonorable discharge from the U.S. military. (32)

    FACT #87: A White woman is 15 times more likely to contract AIDS by engaging in sex with a Negro than with a White heterosexual. (U.S. Centers for Disease Control)

    FACT #88: 90% of U.S. children with AIDS are Black or Hispanic. (36)

    FACT # 89-92: In l950, American schools were among the best in the world. However, vocal elements within our society demanded that the public schools take on a social engineering role as well as an educational one. Violent disruptions of American education were ordered by the Supreme Court for the purpose of breaking down racial barriers. For 30 years, American schools have diverted enormous resources into forced integration, quotas, and bussing operations. (Few people realize how expensive bussing is. Annual cost may run into tens of billions of dollars. In l990 California alone was spending $500 million per year on integration. Many school districts spend a quarter or more of their budgets on transportation. In Milwaukee alone and in a single school year, 30,000 staff hours were diverted into calculating the race of students to attend the various schools.) The results? Today's students rank at the very bottom worldwide in science and math, some 40% of American adults are functionally illiterate, and standardized test scores have declined steadily for both Whites and Blacks. Today the average White still scores 200 points higher on the combined SAT than the average Black. Americans spend more on education than any other country in the world and have the worst results. Massive White flight to escape racial zoning has reduced the tax base of every major American city. In l983, after nearly two generations of racial experimentation to promote equality, the research arm of the Dept. of Education could not produce a single study that showed Black children were learning appreciably better after desegregation. (25) (20) (32)

    FACT #93: In Black Africa the average ruler lasts 7 months. (22) (27) (7)

    FACT #94: By 1995, a third of U.S. students will be non-Whites and Whites will be a minority in the school districts of 5 states. (32)

    FACT #95: Dr. William Shockley, Nobel prize winner for his work in the invention of the transistor and renowned geneticist as Stanford University, said, "The major cause for American Negroes' hereditary is origin and thus not remedial to a major degree by improvement in environment."

    FACT #96: In 1930, about 33% of the world was White. Today, the U.N. estimates that only about 9.5% of the world's population is Caucasian. This percentage is falling rapidly. (34) (27)

    FACT #97: Every race has an equal capacity to learn and contribute to civilization and any differences are caused by prejudice and racism. The fact that white skins are associated with civilization is merely a quirk of fortune and coincidence. Any attempt to distinguish the races is motivated by paranoia and hatred. We must prevent any investigation into the subject and work to melt society together into a receless, nationless, harmonious utopia. (?)

    FACT #98: In 1988 there were 9,406 cases of Black-on-White rape and fewer than 10 cases of White on Black rape in the U.S. (32)

    FACT #99: For the book INTELLIGENCE AND NATIONAL ACHIEVEMENT, by Raymond Cattell, three distinguished American scholars compare massive evidence of national I.Q. score averages worldwide and warn against the decline of any nation whose population reflects declining intelligence. Taking into consideration the differential birthrates of American ethnic stocks, they concluded that American ability is declining rapidly. (21)

    FACT #100: The American taxpayers have spent over $2.5 TRILLION trying to upgrade Blacks since the l960's. (6)
     
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    Spamming that racist garbage is not a rebuttal to the arguments I made....
     
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    Lol so you don't want to understand how to read a graph?

    Ask Nisbett if a 0.10 correlation coefficient would mean increasing white heritage increases black IQ.
     
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    I already told you I was done arguing about that. You're developing an obsession with the subject.

    I will make one final comment on the matter. Both Nisbett and Sternberg told me that the correlation data can be interpreted in different ways. A correlation could be due to a causal relationship between White ancestry and Black IQ or due to colorism.

    Sternberg further said this:

    So that research may not point to definitive conclusions either way. Nonetheless it is interesting the correlation between White ancestry and high Black IQ is low to negative rather than high. There are ways to use modern genetic research to assess whether racial ancestry and intelligence have a causal relationship without invoking colorism as a factor. If we looked at DNA profiles and found that ancestry informative markers indicating continental ancestry and genetic composition revealed that there was a stronger correlation between genetic ancestry and IQ than between physical appearance and IQ and this correlation was high you could have a compelling argument that intelligence level depends on racial ancestry. If the opposite is true, if physical appearance more strongly correlates with IQ than genetic ancestry then not only is there no relationship between racial ancestry and intelligence but colorism can be concluded to be a factor in IQ score differences.
     
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    The highlighted "FACT" undermines the rest of the post. A group with supposedly higher intelligence is living in far worse conditions that those with supposedly lower IQ. Maybe the people who compiled this list can add some sort of exception or swap this particular "fact" out with something else. A lot of these points are wrong on multiple levels, but I'll start with this one for now.
     
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    The whole list is garbage. But this is a tactic of racists. They don't want to debate they want to silence their opposition but drowning them with claims far too numerous to be worth your time responding to.
     
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    "Facts" 23 through 30 is a debunked lists stereotypes as Africa is the most genetically-diverse region in the world.

    The rest of the post is the result of a criminal justice system favoring "whites." If justice was applied equally, we would see the list on crimes eliminated.
     
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    He doesn't realize that by not answering the actual contents of any counters, that he has conceded major points.
     
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    The crime part was addressed within my last two posts.

    The Black family fared far better prior to the 1960s. This suggest a change in culture and environment, not genetics.

    Regarding beauty, this is to be expected. Europeans and their descendants have an unrivaled propaganda machine. Nonetheless, what is portrayed in the media does not necessarily mean much in real life or even that this "beauty" is something positive for whites. For example, the white fertility rates are below replacement levels in some countries.

    Regarding American History, it is rife with atrocity and institutionalized oppression. The same template can be found in South Africa's apartheid, Zionist apartheid in Palestine, the Australian treatment of the Aborigines, or anywhere else the subscribers of manifest destiny sets up shop. Throughout history, we can even see the same systems set up against other white people. The white-brotherhood/solidarity is actually a myth propped up by those oblivious to history.

    Regarding Portugal and Haiti: When all the sanctions against the Haitians are lifted and have the French give the Haitians back the money they took from them for the slave rebellion, we can have a conversation about this.
     
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    Very different environments will yield very different results.

    Again with Haiti, economic sanctions and paying pack a slave-holding regime...

    If one is arguing in favor of genetics, "Fact #70" should be a different result. They should be doing better since the Soviet Union are far lighter than the South African Black people.

    Another thing, it is claimed that the results will change under Black rule? But the whites should be able to perform just as well as they always have because it's more about genetics and less about environment! Alas, different environments, cultures, systems will yield different results. If indeed they fare horribly under Black rule, then should we not attribute the performance of a people to more of environment/culture and less on genetics?
     
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    A certain fellow who I am loathe to mention seems to have difficulty understanding the point that the #70 fact is making....very simple point actually....but simple things for some reason do sail over some folks heads............anyhow............quite obvioulsy the point being that(one should note that at the time this info was published S. Africa was still ruled by whites)the blacks under white rule in S. Africa were doing better than the russians in their alleged workers communistic paradise.....aka communism sucks...get it?

    He makes a lot of very lame comments....obviously some folks are not good at analytical thinking.

    I could have a lot of fun regarding his comments but I do not have the time...and it really is beneath me to address such.
     
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    cont...........................FACT #70: The Blacks of South Africa own more cars than do all the citizens of the Soviet Union. (29)
    Already addressed

    FACT #71: South Africa has more Black doctors, lawyers, professional people, and millionaires than all of the rest of the world combined. (8)
    Say it ain't so! Black Africans faring far better in South Africa than the mixed-raced ones in the US? Wouldn't this undermine the genetic vs environment influences on population performance?

    FACT #72: In fact, conditions are "so bad" for Blacks in South Africa that the country has a tremendous problem with illegal Black immigration, having over one million illegal foreign workers. (14) (29)
    This is propaganda. The illegal foreign workers are taking jobs on the cheap. Sort of like the southern border thing going on here in the U.S.

    ICELAND

    FACT #73-75: Iceland, the only all-White nation in the world, has the world's highest literacy rate. 100%. It is an island of cooled volcanic magma, located Just south of the Arctic Circle. It has no coal, no fuel, no timber, no mineral wealth or natural resources, and no navigable rivers. 75% of the interior is uninhabitable and only about 1% of the land is arable. It is the youngest nation in Europe and one of the most isolated countries in the world. Nonetheless, Iceland is #2 in the world in life expectancy and has one of the world's highest standards of living, in terms of per capita income. It has tremendous medical facilities and a thriving publishing business. Virtually every family has a telephone. Upon graduation from high school, each Icelandic student has learned five languages. (33)
    Isn't Iceland a socialist country? If so, they would naturally fare better than the capitalist/socialist countries, yes?

    MARTIN LUTHER KING

    FACT #75-77: On Jan. 31, 1977, Martin Luther King's FBI records were sealed by court order until the year 2027 because, as his wife said, "its release would destroy his reputation" These records are rumored to contain instances of bizarre sexual perversion and homosexuality, and proof that King was under the direct orders of Soviet spies and financed by the Communist Party.
    Sort of like the European Greek culture that I hear about at frat parties? Or like the fact that this country just allowed gay marriage? Or like this country is about to entertain all sorts of sexual proclivities under the marriage banner? Sure it wasn't his European genes screaming out?

    FACT #78: The Wall Street Journal (Nov.9, 1990) disclosed that Stanford University editors of The Papers of Martin Luther King Jr. have long known that King was guilty of plagiarism in his l955 Boston University doctoral thesis, having lifted significant portions from the works of other writers and graduate students.

    FACT #79: Martin Luther King frequently enjoyed prostitutes and paid for them with his church's money. Still, congress has voted to make King's birthday a national holiday, in most places replacing Columbus Day or Washington's Birthday as an official observance.

    FACT #80: Almost every state in the union has a King holiday, and almost every city has a King Boulevard or King Civic Center. Yet the electoral evidence suggests that Americans will almost always vote down honors for King when given a chance. (41)
    So what for 78-80?

    MISCELLANEOUS

    FACT #81: The entire continent of Africa, perhaps Earth's richest land, accounts for only 3% of world trade. (27)

    FACT #82-84: Almost all Blacks who have been leaders in fields other than athletics or music have had some White ancestry: Fredick Douglas, W.E.B. Dubois, Booker T. Washington, George Washington Carver, Alex Hailey, Thurgood Marshall, Bryant Gumbell, Colin Powell, Carl Rowan, Ed Bradley, Doug Wilder, etc. According to Dr. E.B. Reuter, ". . . Of successful and best known men that the Negro race has produced, at least thirteen- fourteenths are men of mixed blood. (27) (21)
    Many of these guys have white ancestry because some women in their family were victims of rape way back when.

    FACT #85: Blacks are 50 times more likely to have syphilis than Whites. (32)
    Reminds me of the Tuskegee Experiments.

    FACT #86: Twice as many Blacks as Whites receive dishonorable discharge from the U.S. military. (32)
    Good. But I hope it occurs early enough to where people don't believe that Black people are part of the military-industrial complex.

    FACT #87: A White woman is 15 times more likely to contract AIDS by engaging in sex with a Negro than with a White heterosexual. (U.S. Centers for Disease Control)
    Media promotes interracial couplings all the time. You'll find that those who run the media are non-Black. Makes you wonder what they have against white women.

    FACT #88: 90% of U.S. children with AIDS are Black or Hispanic. (36)
    Misleading. In this anti-Black list, you added Hispanics, which could be any race, though most of them are white.

    FACT # 89-92: In l950, American schools were among the best in the world. However, vocal elements within our society demanded that the public schools take on a social engineering role as well as an educational one. Violent disruptions of American education were ordered by the Supreme Court for the purpose of breaking down racial barriers. For 30 years, American schools have diverted enormous resources into forced integration, quotas, and bussing operations. (Few people realize how expensive bussing is. Annual cost may run into tens of billions of dollars. In l990 California alone was spending $500 million per year on integration. Many school districts spend a quarter or more of their budgets on transportation. In Milwaukee alone and in a single school year, 30,000 staff hours were diverted into calculating the race of students to attend the various schools.) The results? Today's students rank at the very bottom worldwide in science and math, some 40% of American adults are functionally illiterate, and standardized test scores have declined steadily for both Whites and Blacks. Today the average White still scores 200 points higher on the combined SAT than the average Black. Americans spend more on education than any other country in the world and have the worst results. Massive White flight to escape racial zoning has reduced the tax base of every major American city. In l983, after nearly two generations of racial experimentation to promote equality, the research arm of the Dept. of Education could not produce a single study that showed Black children were learning appreciably better after desegregation. (25) (20) (32)
    I don't disagree with this one. Black people should not have been caught between republican and democratic power grabs.

    FACT #93: In Black Africa the average ruler lasts 7 months. (22) (27) (7)
    *shrug*

    FACT #94: By 1995, a third of U.S. students will be non-Whites and Whites will be a minority in the school districts of 5 states. (32)
    Maybe this will reduce anti-ethnic propaganda and potentially make the world a much better place.

    FACT #95: Dr. William Shockley, Nobel prize winner for his work in the invention of the transistor and renowned geneticist as Stanford University, said, "The major cause for American Negroes' hereditary is origin and thus not remedial to a major degree by improvement in environment."
    Unless Dr. William Shockley was a geneticist, what does his ill-informed opinion matter?

    FACT #96: In 1930, about 33% of the world was White. Today, the U.N. estimates that only about 9.5% of the world's population is Caucasian. This percentage is falling rapidly. (34) (27)
    Same as #94

    FACT #97: Every race has an equal capacity to learn and contribute to civilization and any differences are caused by prejudice and racism. The fact that white skins are associated with civilization is merely a quirk of fortune and coincidence. Any attempt to distinguish the races is motivated by paranoia and hatred. We must prevent any investigation into the subject and work to melt society together into a receless, nationless, harmonious utopia. (?)
    I attribute it to a lack of morals and a high propensity for violence, but to each our own perspectives.

    FACT #98: In 1988 there were 9,406 cases of Black-on-White rape and fewer than 10 cases of White on Black rape in the U.S. (32)
    The BJS source is a projections source and cannot be used to substantiate this line. To get a real look at rape, look no further than the Indigenous reservations, the reality that many mixed-race Blacks are a result of slaver rape, the FBI stats on rape, and various agencies that gather information on rape victims and you will find something different than what is peddled here.

    FACT #99: For the book INTELLIGENCE AND NATIONAL ACHIEVEMENT, by Raymond Cattell, three distinguished American scholars compare massive evidence of national I.Q. score averages worldwide and warn against the decline of any nation whose population reflects declining intelligence. Taking into consideration the differential birthrates of American ethnic stocks, they concluded that American ability is declining rapidly. (21)
    IQ and achievement has been torn apart even by racialist.

    FACT #100: The American taxpayers have spent over $2.5 TRILLION trying to upgrade Blacks since the l960's.
    FACT: The New Deal which was basically welfare for whites that is still in effect today is calculated at $50,000,000,000 (yes $50 TRILLION) trying to help out whites. What do we have to show for it? Every man, woman, and child owes ~$59,000 and all the systems are failing.
     
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    Nothing waycist about it...just reporting the facts sir.....carry on. hehheh

    BTW you make no arguments you just present some blatantly biased research by politically correct academics.....none of which can pass the smell or the logic test.

    Any argument claiming environmental factors account for the black/white high i.q. gap is simply illogical.....many very intelligent people are born into poverty...aka the smartest man in America. You claim waycism causes low i.q. yet no group in the world has suffered more persecution and discrimination based on their race than the Jews have...yet they have the highest i.q.'s. etc.etc.etc. and so on and so forth............there is not one environmental reason that you may claim causes low intelligence that some group somewhere has suffered more than Africans have..... yet they still have higher i.q.'s than the africans... thus your environmental claim is null and void.

    Now of course some politically correct academian supported by some liberal university can and have conducted long and complicated research and try and use that to prop up the environmentalists contention for the cause of the gap...but it simply does not wash...and more and more genetic research is proving that the genes are the dominant factor in intelligence......it really is sad that some feel threatened by this....quite the reverse should be true....by insisting that they are equal....they essentially are denying themselves or their children and relatives the sort of education and training they really need....the sort of education that would really help them....not just a piece of paper that will never be of any value or use for them....other than for a very few. The great majority of disadvantaged children are being held back....not by white waycism as they have been taught to believe but by not having any marketable skills in the job market...coupled with a propensity for accumulating a very long rap sheet even before they graduate from H.S.

    The inescapable fact is that nature through an evolutionary process has produced a end result of racial differentation in intelligence....the actual mechanics of which being ---determined by a genetic process. It is a aspect of pre-destination ...the plans have been laid but not by humans......that is why so many have difficulty understanding this along with many other things....our ways are not his ways....human intelligence at its very highest and very best.....simply cannot fathom the mysteries of the universe...aka 'There is much more in heaven and earth...horatio...than dreamt of in your philosophy'....or sumptin like dat.
     
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    You are one screwed up individual blending racism with mock Ebonics and mindless rants. My list of evidence addresses all aspects of the hereditarian position including evolutionary arguments so if you are capable of addressing my sources do so. You won't because you can't. You just rant and spam. That is all you can do. I think it's very telling that you say the arguments of Egalitarian scientists are complicated. They aren't to people who understand their work. There are numerous findings that refute racist theories about human intelligence. If you want to remain ignorant that's your prerogative but you are being intellectually dishonest when you pretend that the environmental position is illogical and can't be supported by science.
     
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    Hi EJ. When do you plan on supporting your patently false claim that a 0.10 correlation coefficient would not show black IQ increases with white heritage?

    Maybe if I have time I will put together a graph and explain to you how graphs are read.
     

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