MIT Professor Disputes Evidence of Sarin Attack

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  1. TedintheShed

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    "Trust us."

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    To be against a 20-year dictator like little boy putin makes one an extremist? Perhaps he just got tired of lying on behalf of the murderous dog putin.
     
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    Why don't you and the rest of the pro-russian cabal state what evidence would be sufficient, and we'll consider it.
     
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    "It's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here, like the public?! Yeah, the public sucks! This is a nice campaing slogan for somebody. "The public sucks!""(George Carlin)

     
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    If Assad publicly admitted it they would accept it, but immediately claim it was justified. As you know, the idea is to spread misinformation until everyone just stops caring. Rinse, repeat. Amorality personified.
     
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    Well I haven't seen any evidence at all from the US. It's just all talk, like GWB made up to plunge Iraq into total anarchy, which resulted we're now stuck with millions of refugees, ISIS, not to mention 100.000's of dead people,... all for nothing.
     
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    You're exactly correct: "we never did it, but if we did - they deserved it - because they are terrorists..." One's IQ must be extremely low to buy in and accept this kind of human trash as legitimate leadership.
     
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    Good deflection try but I ask again - what evidence would evidence would be sufficient?

    I know you probably won't list any, because none will ever be sufficient. It makes it easier for the pro-russian cabal/troll team to continue to screech assad did not do so. If there were home videos of the jet pilots dropping the bomb, including admitting they did so, the pro-russian trolls would still deny it.

    BTW, it isn't the US who is handling the investigation or accusations, it is the UN, OPCW and other countries.
     
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    I am an anonymous poster,.. why would my opinion matter? As if I can pretend I am an expert on judging evidence is true or not in the case of WMD attacks. Seriously... you can ask away, but the point remains that so far there isn't even any evidence presented.
     
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    Now you're pretending to be a non-involved party? What kind of sophistric crap is that? This is a public political discussion forum; you made a comment earlier, now stand by it - or retract it.

    LOL:

    "I am (not) an expert on judging evidence is true or not in the case of WMD attacks"

    And:

    "so far there isn't even any evidence presented."

    Well which is it, since both cannot be true?

    Either you are NOT an expert and cannot determine if prior evidence is legitimate or not, or you ARE an expert, and the evidence presented is not acceptable, so which is it?
     
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    The US subsists on lies. As Hitler's propaganda minister said, repeat something often enough and it will be believed no matter how ridiculous.

    The US knows that Assad had no reason to use chemicals, and the terrorists had every reason too... and they have many times, but it matters not. The intent is to demonize Assad the way they did Miloshevik in order to attack Syria.


    Evil is as evil does...[​IMG]
     
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    There is no evidence presented, as far as I know. That is true.
    If it is presented, than it's not up to me if the evidence is good enough. That is up to experts. That is true.

    I also got the feeling you are trolling away from the main point:
    lets see that evidence already.
     
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    Were it not for the rebellion, there'd be no war, strife, suffering, grief or displacement in Syria. There would be peace and prosperity. Consequently, the rebellion is to blame for it all. And yet our media and many in our government repeatedly blame Assad. This make no sense.
    But then along comes President Trump, who wants to team with Russia to rid Syria of ISIS and all terrorists groups, so as to support the Assad government. Assad could not have had a better stroke of good fortune. So why would he jeopardize that by using chemical weapons? He wouldn't. And neither would Putin. That's why I don't believe it. It doesn't make any sense.
     
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    I'm baffled that there are so many people believing US war propaganda nowadays, haven't you learned from history?
    How many times is necessary to review past illegal wars to get the damn memo?
     
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    So how would you know if the evidence is legit if you are not qualified to make a determination?
     
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    Except for the people mahar and bashar would have tortured in their prison gulags for speaking against the regime, the murdered journalists in syria and lebanon, the dead Israelis from the terrorists harbored in damascus, the starving farmers due to the drought, the people whose daughters were claimed/raped by cronies of the regime, etc. Sure, syria was a grand place before the uprising, and I won't get into the violence/terrorism committed by syria in lebanon for the last few decades.

    I'm guessing you were being satirical.

    You're right, why would anyone want freedom of speech, basic civil rights, human rights, the right to choose one's own government and not be robbed/raped blind by it.

    I see you were not kidding, which means you have absolutely no clue about life in syria or the mideast over the past 25-50 years.
     
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    The pictures of the storage site that presumably held the rebel stash of chemical weapons was silos that were bombed out months ago.
     
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    Be wary of Americans who are trying to reinvent Gaddafi and Bashar Assad... They refused to read anything about the history of Syria or the Assad family.
     
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    Just because I am an anonymous poster not being able to claim to be an expert, does not mean everybody is like that.
     
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    You stepped up and claimed there was "no evidence" presented, but then admit you have no qualifications to even determine if any evidence was legitimate. The contradiction should not need to be spoon fed to you.
     
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    Seventy percent of Syrians have always supported Assad. But even if you were right, the ravages of the war are at the feet of the rebellion that struck up the war, not Assad. And assisting the rebellion has only enlarged the battle and extended the suffering.
     
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    Well actually the use of the word " indisputable" does in no way imply there is no evidence. English is a bit difficult but with a bit of effort and perhaps a dictionary you can learn to understand it.
     
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    Really? Based on what source? And how would you expect to acquire realistic numbers when speaking against assad could get you killed?

    Had assad not reacted like an animal, started slaughtering people, and recognized that a 50-year family dynasty dictatorship cannot be tolerated forever and stepped aside, 1 MM would not have been killed.

    But no, he and his wretched family had to keep their mafia gang in power to oppress the poor syrian people for another 50 years, or at least try to. Sane dictators step aside when the people rise up against them, suicidal idiots try to hang on. Ask ghadaffi, saddam, ceausecau, mussolini, etc how that worked out.
     
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    75% of Syrians were Sunni Muslims who were grossly oppressed by Assad.
     
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    I think he picked that number out of the because like so many he hasn't read anything about Assad or the history of Syria. 75% of Syrians were Sunni Muslims..

    Before the war there was also 580,000 Palestinians living in Syria.
     
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