<<MOD WARNING>>Should high school students walk out and shut system down until meaningful gun reform

Home defense and hog/varmint hunting. Personally I prefer the AK-47 since it has more knockdown power. Shoot a hog or an intruder with a 7.62x39mm, they're more likely to stay down than with a 5.56mm.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/5/26/the-ar-for-home-defense-one-experts-opinion

http://www.gunsandammo.com/shoot101/setting-up-a-home-defense-msr/

https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2017/6/27/ar-15-rifles-for-home-defense-yes/

https://loadoutroom.com/thearmsguide/why-i-abandoned-the-ar15/

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2017/4/6/using-an-ak-47-for-self-defense/

https://homedefensegun.net/ak47-for-home-defense/

 

I sorrow for their pain but like it or not being killed in a school shooting is an extreme rarity something on the order of a 1 in 2.2 million chance. Being struck by lightning by way of comparison is 1 chance 770,000. Now you can climb down off your virtue signaling tower and resume your normal affairs all based on what I've seen thus far virtue signaling may be the averages leftist normal affairs.

 

Those kids are more likely to be killed by a car, even if they aren't texting and driving.

The anti-gun Left never lets go of the maxim "never let a crisis go to waste". They'll be standing on the bodies of those kids long after they are buried.

 

Hell they were standing on them before they had a chance to get cold and be identified.

 

Yes. The typical knee-jerk reaction was to go for a gun ban, not figure out why Nicholas Cruz wasn't getting the psychiatric help he obviously needed.

 

Is it not amazing that in the 1930s we could almost completely ban fully auto weapons such as the Thompson due to criminals killing too many of themselves in warfare on the public streets but our kids are no longer worth doing the same for weapons with large clips and rapid fired that are already killings not gangsters but school children and music goers in large number.

No reason that anyone who wish such weapons as the AR-15 would not need to jump through the same kinds of hoops that anyone now need to do to own a Thompson or a Bar for that matter.

I had already had friends who had gone through those hoops for fully auto weapons and there is no reason why we should not do the same for those weapons that had already proven they can and have killed a large percent of the children in a school or music lovers.

Suggestion we calculate how must it would cost to maintain the type of security that could deal with one or two attackers carrying such weapons at every school in the nation and then raised the funds by surcharging the amount for that security to those weapons cost..

 

Your posts REEK of apathy, contempt, and condescension. . . . I am not the one astride a high horse:

"I suspect he's one of those that thinks an AR-15 could double as an elephant gun.."

Inconsideration of others will NOT earn you respect.

 

Hell we can also surcharge the cost of psychiatric help for the unstable collectors of large number of such weapons onto the sale of those rifles also.

 

If you can't kill an intruder or an animal in 9 shots, perhaps you shouldn't own a gun.

 

Gun reform? Gun reform will not solve the problem of evil, nor of mental illness. For it will not do a thing to address the causes in this cause effect universe. Guns do not cause evil or mental illness. Guns are used by those who are evil or mentally ill. You may as well outlaw cars because evil or crazy people use them to mow down people and kill them. Guns are not made in order that americans can kill on another. They are made for hunting, target shooting, and defending oneself from criminals or crazy people like school shooters. So they are not made for evil acts, for murders, but they can be used for them, just like a car is made to transport one without walking, but can be used as deadly weapons for mass murders.

Stopping mass murders by people using cars would never make one think we need to outlaw cars. For it would be irrational, just as it is irrational to think you solve school shooting by outlawing guns. The cause of these shootings is not the fault of the gun. It is a human problem, which the left has no idea how to solve it, so they grab the low hanging fruit in their idiocy. But the right to own guns is in the bill of rights, and so what they want to do, cannot be pulled off. And it pisses them off.

You can put all of the gun control laws on the books that you want. And spend billions in trying to legislate good people and sanity, but you will never alleviate evil nor mental illness. You may as well try to stop war and drug use. Or murders. Or prostitution. Or corruption in politics. Or greed. Or hatred. Or racism. Or stupidity.

And until the left can understand this, the rationality involved, they will offer up no solutions. For if they never understand it, they will continue to promote cutting off a horse's head in order to cure his headache.

 

Gun reform will help mitigate the actual effects of "the problem of evil [and] of mental illness."

 

Keep resisting sensible regulation and you will be facing that result in ten years.

You will lose a civil war over it. Permanently.

 

"You are against gun ownership being contingent upon passing a psychological examination. . . . RIGHT???"

When you understand the Constitution, you can lecture the rest of us and we might actually listen to you. Now . . . pffft.

 

So. . . . You agree that rights to gun ownership should be revoked AFTER persons commit mass-murders??? Thank you for that concession.

 

Dude If there was any apathy in me regarding this subject I would not be posting in it. I've been fighting this fight for the better part of four decades now. Do I have more than a bit of contempt for the same tired leftist arguments that have been deployed over and over again without regard to either rhyme, reason or logic for those forty years? Damn straight. You have no idea how many leftist twits have describe An AR-15 in terms that are vastly more suitable to a Barret .50 caliber Sniper Rifle. It's very slightly smaller in diameter at 5.56mm than 22. .219 if I recall correctly from the last time I did the math. The thing is essentially a souped up .22. You can kill some one with it but you can kill people with almost anything.

 

are you privy to who's going to commit mass murders? do you want a government that surveils we filthy commoners to such a degree that they know for sure who's going to commit mass murders beforehand? I'm thinking you must.

 

my knowledge of the Constitution is just fine. for instance, unlike you, I know that the Constitution does not 'grant' me the right to keep and bear arms.

 

Pffft.

 

You mean you would be for passing a psychological exam to utilize free speech?

 

I feel the same concern my five rounds from my 357 revolver.

No need to full the air with thirty to fifty rounds to deal with home self defense needs and if you feel that you might need more then that I would suggest a pump shotgun.

 

The college kids knew that the US should not have been defending SV in the first place.

 

Oh please . Just another grabber. Use a tragedy to push your anti American agenda. .

 

So being against the large number of killings of children in their schools are anti American?

Anti American in even the suggestion that if someone is not old enough to be trusted to buy a beer then allowing that same person to buy a large number of weapons able to do mass killings seems insane on it face?

 

" Shall not be infringed : that's American .

 

We don't know. . . . That's why guns that should be considered WMDs should be outlawed for civilian use and ownership.