Modern American conservatism and libertarianism

I'm asking what you meant for YOU! Are you even married?

 

What do you think the distinction is?

 

Living in your own garbage is a guarantee that there will be vermin and disease in your own house. That vermin and disease does not stay at your house but SPREADS itself to neighboring houses. Your neighbors have a RIGHT to NOT have your vermin and diseases infecting their properties.

So unless you can convince your neighbors that living in the squalor of their own vermin and disease riddled garbage is a better idea than having the city providing a trash service for the health and safety of the entire community they SOCIAL CONTRACT will prevail and your libertarian principles are NOT ACCEPTABLE to the MAJORITY of We the People.

 

Yes I'm married what difference does it make for me it would be the same as it is now just I wouldn't have to go to the justice of the peace to get permission.

 

Okay, so how did you get married?

 

I just said I was married and my partner agreed that's how it's always worked.

 

That's certainly the first marriage of that type that I've come across! Are you saying that before the state got involved, this is how it was? Are you sure that the vast majority didn't get married in a church? Even once the state got involved, my understanding is that the vast majority of people got married in a church. The vast majority of people WENT to church!

 

It doesn't matter where it is, that's all it is even in a church. They call the agreement vows and add a lot of pomp and circumstance. That doesn't change what it is

 

No that's not all it is for Christians.

 

Explain what else it is.

 

Well for Christians, marriage is a union under God, in which God is the most important element in the marriage. To Christians, this sort of marriage is different to secular marriage.

 

so what does God say when people get married?

What value does that have in this argument?

 

What does He say in an audible voice? Nothing.

 

Where does he sit?

 

Not sure what you mean.

 

During the wedding, is he a brides maid an usher what?

You said God was a key element seems he's strangely absent from the entire affair.

 

I said that "God is the most important element in the marriage." Did you take that to mean, God is the most important element in the WEDDING CEREMONY?

 

So what does your spirituality have to do with law?

 

Nothing. Why?

 

Good Lord you have a short attention span that's why we were talking about this in the first place.

 

No, my spirituality is not why we were talking about this in the first place.

 

If your behavior on your property bleeds onto my property I have a cause of action to sue you for infringing my rights. No social contract is necessary to enforce my property rights against your encroachment whether its you trespassing or your vermin.

I want better service than the city provides. The city service where I live is deplorable. They only pick up once a week, they drop trash from bins everywhere they go and they won't empty bins if they're not positioned just right on the street. The private service we had prior to the city taking over that function picked up twice a week, would go retrieve the bins from where they were as long as they could get to them, charged less than the city does and didn't leave trash strewn down the street when they were doing their runs.

You are correct that most of the people have been brainwashed by the State to reject the freedom and responsibility that libertarian principles entail. That would seem to include you since you apparently think trash service can't be provided unless its forced on you by government. I'm not under any illusion that libertarianism will be broadly accepted in the U.S. today but that doesn't change the fact that its a much better system.

 

Yes. Banning the transport and sale of such deemed hazardous substances across state lines and preventing them from entering the country are the prerogative of the federal government, however. I do think prohibiting a person from growing/producing such drugs for their personal use or controlling substances created within and used within a particular state or community is not within the constitutional prerogative of the federal government, however.

The federal government seriously erred in prohibiting the sale and use of alcohol as a substance to be ingested, and ultimately gave that up as a lost cost and reversed itself on controlling that. And it properly leaves whether alcohol can be legally sold and consumed to the various states and/or local communities. It also retains proper ability to control the sale and transport of intoxicating beverages across state lines and imported into the country.

 

I am not the one who has been "brainwashed" into the libertarian FALLACY that EVERYTHING can be solved by SUING your neighbors!

Firstly it costs MONEY to file lawsuits so if you don't have the money to file a lawsuit you are just going to have to live with your neighbor's vermin and disease.

Secondly who ENFORCES any judgment handed down by the State that you HATE so much?

Why must everyone ELSE to be FORCED to PAY for YOUR lawsuit being enforced by the State?

So if the State is NOT going to enforce your lawsuit ruling then that leaves you with even less money and you STILL have a vermin and disease problem on your hands.

And please try to refrain from using meaningless ANECDOTES and PUERILE AD HOMS in the future.

 

This has got to be a joke.