Moderna's new mRNA shot for Heart Attacks

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  1. ricmortis

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    Isn't it fitting that Moderna is creating a new mRNA shot for Heart Attacks. If it broke, fix it! A Vaccine for Heart Attacks!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...ialing-mRNA-shot-injected-directly-HEART.html
     
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    Being we have experienced an incredible increase in Heart Attacks ever since the Vax was introduced, there will be a much greater need for heart attack therapy.
     
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    More money for big pharma to line their pockets with. PRS, Problem Reaction Solution, they create the problem, get a reaction from the recipients and become the saviours for making a solution to the problem they've created.
     
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    You can't vaccinate a normal heart attack. Heart attacks are not caused by an infection. They are caused by a blockage of the coronary arteries. It is a mechanical problem. So there is more to the story. Perhaps they are vaccinating against some coronary condition other than an infarction from such a blockage.
     
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    I wonder if this heart attack "vaccine" as the manufacturer is calling it was created to help with issues with the Covid vaccine. Besides, the Covid Vaccine is not a true Vaccine either. Big Pharma can slap the Vaccine name on any drug to make it seem more legit.
     
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    They can but they rarely if ever do. Vaccines are meant to be preventative and drugs are meant to be therapeutic.
     
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    MRNA is going to be commonly used in medicine going forward.

    People who have no idea what they are talking about are going to have scary times ahead.
     
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    Being the Vax hasn't prevented Covid from spreading, it really isn't a Vaccine but more of a drug to reduce its affects.

    FYI. the MRNA Covid Vax is the ONLY MRNA drug ever approved and used on the worlds population with only about a 6 to 8 month max drug trial when throughout American history, drug trials take 5 to 10 years via 3 Phases of trials. The MRNA Covid Vax didn't even make it past Phase 1 and was only approved via 1 out of 20 FDA applications. Then, we have sheep stating they trust everything our government and Big Pharma tells them neglecting the yearly lawsuits over faulty drugs Big Pharma has produced and that our government has lied to the people in the past. This is where it gets very interesting moving forward.
     
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    Yes because heart attacks were rare before that in a country where heart disease has been the leading cause of death for quite a while...
     
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    I did mention significant increase in Heart Attacks since Covid Vax inception, not just heart attacks in general.

    FYI. The covid vax didn't make it past Phase 1 in the Drug Trials before Big Pharma and the Government rushed it out. That is UNPRECIDENTED. Thus, we are all guinnea pigs in this tests tube experiment.
     
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    Yes, we were all there and saw the emergency approvals.

    Do you have any evidence to support the "significant increase" in heart attacks? I'm genuinely curious.
     
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    https://community.covidvaccineinjur...wed-medical-papers-of-covid-vaccine-injuries/

    The page has segments and each has medical papers on those differing listed adverse effects. Knock yourself out, the "cardiac" segment is 3/4 of the way down the very long list.
     
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    I perused through there but didn't find anything listing a significant increase in heart attacks. Do you have anything specific that you can quote here, since I assume you've read through the stuff and found something that backs up that claim?
     
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    First link on Google. I don't think any issues are widespread for everyone who has had the Vax, but some people experience issues. That is the problem with rolling out a Vaccine that is not fully tested. Some peoples bodies may not react the same as others.

    People experiencing issues post Vax are still rare and the risk is way lower than injury from Covid. We just have to wait and see after 5 to 10 years if there are any long term issues being MRNA has never been fully tested. This is the very first time a MRNA vaccine has been distributed to the public. Thus, we are still in Phase 1 of the trial where the normal requirements has 3 phases of trials. But, the governments panicked and rushed out the drug so we don't fully know if there are any long term effects. May take years of data to fully vet.

    I am not against the Vax. I am just against being told to take an fully untested drug where Big Pharma was granted full immunity where the recipient accepts all liability. Pfizer is getting sued left and right over drugs that passed 5 to 10 year trials while people here are defending a drug tested 6 to 8 months? Just doesn't make sense to me. If the population survives 5 to 10 years and the drug is fully vetted, then I will happily take the Jab in 5 or 10 years.

    https://www.bhf.org.uk/informations...s-and-covid-19-vaccines-should-you-be-worried

     
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    Transient Cardiac Injury in Adolescents Receiving the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine
    Transient Cardiac Injury in Adolescents Receiving the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine (a different paper, same title)
    Cardiac complications following mRNA COVID-19 vaccines: A systematic review of case reports and case series
    A review of COVID-19 vaccination and the reported cardiac manifestations
    Temporal relation between second dose BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 vaccine and cardiac involvement in a patient with previous SARS-COV-2 infection
    Autopsy Findings and Causality Relationship between Death and COVID-19 Vaccination: A Systematic Review
    Postmortem investigation of fatalities following vaccination with COVID-19 vaccines
    An Insight into the Role of Postmortem Immunohistochemistry in the Comprehension of the Inflammatory Pathophysiology of COVID-19 Disease and Vaccine-Related Thrombotic Adverse
    Events: A Narrative Review

    COVID-19 Vaccine and Death: Causality Algorithm According to the WHO Eligibility Diagnosis
    Postmortem investigation of fatalities following vaccination with COVID-19 vaccines

    This is what is in the "cardiac" section
     
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    For my part, I don't dispute the idea that the vaccine could be having unintended side effects in some people, like many medications can. But because the COVID vaccines have been highly politicized, I suspect that as is the case in most politicized issues, the negative aspects are being overblown due to a specific anti-COVID vaccine agenda. If they are indeed significantly increasing, an increase in heart attacks measured by the same metrics they had been measured by before the COVID vaccines would be a far more reliable statistic in my opinion. That's why I was genuinely curious if you had any evidence like that as I haven't seen any.
     
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    Even here, nothing that you quoted notes a significant increase in heart attacks. Myocarditis and Pericarditis are not heart attacks. I'm in no way saying those side effects aren't serious nor am I saying they aren't related to the vaccine for those who've had it and end up with one or more of those conditions, but they aren't heart attacks which is the specific claim I was responding to in this thread.
     
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    Being this drug was rushed as fast as humanly possible without fully vetting or drug trials, I wouldn't doubt they are hiding many of the side effects. We cannot tell for sure at this stage regardless. Eventually, if there was some corrupt handling of issues, they will come out over time. If some very small percentage have side effects, then they are probably adhering to a risk/reward ratio.

    I have read some evidence from other countries of which I don't have time at work to research as I am very busy. But, here in the states, everything appears filtered for a pro-vax initiative because it is very contrasting what other countries findings are. Just another reason to not trust everything one is told by their government. Because, lets just say there are serious issues, that could affect the Democrats political status for years being they actually attempted to force Vax mandates. Thus, they have a lot to lose if the drug is not as good as advertised. Same with some pro-vax Republicans, but Democrats have alot more to lose.

    Keep in mind just about every single Congress person gets at the very least 6 figure donations from Big Pharma for their political campaigns.
     
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    They do show that this wonder drug, meaning, "I wonder what it'll do to me", does to the heart. However, here is something I found;

    Abstract 10712: Observational Findings of PULS Cardiac Test Findings for Inflammatory Markers in Patients Receiving mRNA Vaccines


    https://ecgwaves.com/topic/ecg-pericarditis-myocarditis-perimyocarditis/


    UK Cardiologist Confirms American Heart Association Report that COVID-19 Vaccines Cause Heart Attacks
     
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    It amazes me that people trust that the government gave Big Pharma complete free of liability for any harm a drug could cause after releasing the drug that has not been fully tested over a 5 to 10 year period while the recipients buy into that as normal when Liability has never been restricted before. And, they don't question it as if that is normal.

    When my job tried to force me to take the Vax, I told them I would if they accept Liability for any issues the drug may cause. Nobody will accept liability except the people who are jabbed. It is like signing up for a clinical trial except not getting paid and if injured have to pay for hospital issues out of your own pocket. 70% of the country took the jab without thinking about that.
     
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    If any red flags that anyone could have picked up on should have and would have been the above quoted. Yet too many people just gave away their uninformed consent. What does that tell us about society? Many people are vying for Darwin Awards.
     
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    I have concluded that up to 99% of people are complete sheep. As long as they get paid decently and can watch the Kardashians, they are happy regardless what happens around them.
     
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    Maybe increase that %. As that 1% includes the globalists. There'd be a little more who smelt the BS.
     
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    Sheep, perhaps, but awakened "sheep" aren't going to be extreme rightwingers (or leftwingers).
     
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