Moderna's new mRNA shot for Heart Attacks

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  1. UntilNextTime

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    So what is it then if it ain't a vaccine? Still waiting, dogging the explanation.
     
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    As I stated in post #101 now.
     
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    More insane conspiracy theory garbage.
    Care to share where your degree in medicine is from that you get to declare that the COVID vaccine is not really a vaccine?
     
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    So what side effects is this one gonna cause that they'll be coming out with the next one to sell us as another fix?

    At least in the video game industry its understood that when a 'bug fix' causes more bugs that need bug fixes, its on the creator to cover the cost, not the user. This is a cycle of limitless profit for pharma ...so long as there's enough folks still alive who can afford the next dose of course.
     
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    Total reactions for the mRNA vaccine Tozinameran (code BNT162b2,Comirnaty) from BioNTech/ Pfizer: 22,191 deaths and 2,448,297 injuries to 30/07/2022

    • 72,801 Blood and lymphatic system disorders incl. 315 deaths
    • 84,773 Cardiac disorders incl. 3,205 deaths
    • 768 Congenital, familial and genetic disorders incl. 69 deaths
    • 31,480 Ear and labyrinth disorders incl. 17 deaths
    • 3,122 Endocrine disorders incl. 12 deaths
    • 35,427 Eye disorders incl. 57 deaths
    • 172,416 Gastrointestinal disorders incl. 887 deaths
    • 628,578 General disorders and administration site conditions incl. 6,073 deaths
    • 2,795 Hepatobiliary disorders incl. 126 deaths
    • 26,839 Immune system disorders incl. 140 deaths
    • 164,955 Infections and infestations incl. 2,300 deaths
    • 43,540 Injury, poisoning and procedural complications incl. 504 deaths
    • 58,107 Investigations incl. 608 deaths
    • 15,362 Metabolism and nutrition disorders incl. 389 deaths
    • 274,956 Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders incl. 314 deaths
    • 2,852 Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) incl. 269 deaths
    • 376,478 Nervous system disorders incl. 2,369 deaths
    • 3,350 Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions incl. 84 deaths
    • 319 Product issues incl. 4 deaths
    • 42,571 Psychiatric disorders incl. 250 deaths
    • 8,846 Renal and urinary disorders incl. 332 deaths
    • 102,925 Reproductive system and breast disorders incl. 9 deaths
    • 99,625 Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders incl. 2,361 deaths
    • 106,932 Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders incl. 203 deaths
    • 6,403 Social circumstances incl. 28 deaths
    • 26,452 Surgical and medical procedures incl. 283 deaths
    • 55,625 Vascular disorders incl. 983 deaths
    Total reactions for the mRNA vaccine SPIKEVAX/mRNA-1273(CX-024414) from Moderna: 12,285 deaths and 782,763 injuries to 30/07/2022

    • 20,959 Blood and lymphatic system disorders incl. 140 deaths
    • 27,417 Cardiac disorders incl. 1,351 deaths
    • 244 Congenital, familial and genetic disorders incl. 15 deaths
    • 9,266 Ear and labyrinth disorders incl. 8 deaths
    • 819 Endocrine disorders incl. 6 deaths
    • 10,432 Eye disorders incl. 41 deaths
    • 61,275 Gastrointestinal disorders incl. 467 deaths
    • 206,650 General disorders and administration site conditions incl. 3,942 deaths
    • 1,041 Hepatobiliary disorders incl. 66 deaths
    • 8,808 Immune system disorders incl. 43 deaths
    • 34,547 Infections and infestations incl. 1,123 deaths
    • 11,502 Injury, poisoning and procedural complications incl. 236 deaths
    • 17,404 Investigations incl. 409 deaths
    • 6,277 Metabolism and nutrition disorders incl. 291 deaths
    • 97,363 Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders incl. 249 deaths
    • 954 Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) incl. 105 deaths
    • 128,358 Nervous system disorders incl. 1,185 deaths
    • 1,089 Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions incl. 12 deaths
    • 127 Product issues incl. 3 deaths
    • 12,948 Psychiatric disorders incl. 198 deaths
    • 4,108 Renal and urinary disorders incl. 236 deaths
    • 21,794 Reproductive system and breast disorders incl. 9 deaths
    • 31,925 Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders incl. 1,303 deaths
    • 40,979 Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders incl. 110 deaths
    • 3,143 Social circumstances incl. 45 deaths
    • 7,090 Surgical and medical procedures incl. 224 deaths
    • 16,244 Vascular disorders incl. 468 deaths
    Total reactions for the vaccine AZD1222/VAXZEVRIA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19) from Oxford/ Astra Zeneca: 9,427 deaths and 1,328,069 injuries to 30/07/2022

    • 15,427 Blood and lymphatic system disorders incl. 335 deaths
    • 23,779 Cardiac disorders incl. 991 deaths
    • 281 Congenital familial and genetic disorders incl. 11 deaths
    • 14,975 Ear and labyrinth disorders incl. 8 deaths
    • 834 Endocrine disorders incl. 7 deaths
    • 22,260 Eye disorders incl. 33 deaths
    • 119,238 Gastrointestinal disorders incl. 501 deaths
    • 357,237 General disorders and administration site conditions incl. 2,198 deaths
    • 1,202 Hepatobiliary disorders incl. 84 deaths
    • 6,727 Immune system disorders incl. 47 deaths
    • 58,172 Infections and infestations incl. 800 deaths
    • 15,172 Injury poisoning and procedural complications incl. 232 deaths
    • 32,384 Investigations incl. 226 deaths
    • 14,713 Metabolism and nutrition disorders incl. 150 deaths
    • 191,884 Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders incl. 197 deaths
    • 915 Neoplasms benign malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) incl. 55 deaths
    • 263,649 Nervous system disorders incl. 1,356 deaths
    • 718 Pregnancy puerperium and perinatal conditions incl. 23 deaths
    • 207 Product issues incl. 1 death
    • 23,695 Psychiatric disorders incl. 84 deaths
    • 4,860 Renal and urinary disorders incl. 101 deaths
    • 18,374 Reproductive system and breast disorders incl. 3 deaths
    • 46,318 Respiratory thoracic and mediastinal disorders incl. 1,254 deaths
    • 58,025 Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders incl. 77 deaths
    • 2,440 Social circumstances incl. 11 deaths
    • 3,147 Surgical and medical procedures incl. 43 deaths
    • 31,436 Vascular disorders incl. 599 deaths
    Total reactions for the COVID-19 vaccine JANSSEN (AD26.COV2.S) from Johnson & Johnson: 3,096 deaths and 169,472 injuries to 30/07/2022

    • 1,687 Blood and lymphatic system disorders incl. 69 deaths
    • 3,734 Cardiac disorders incl. 258 deaths
    • 59 Congenital, familial and genetic disorders incl. 3 deaths
    • 1,846 Ear and labyrinth disorders incl. 3 deaths
    • 153 Endocrine disorders incl. 2 deaths
    • 2,223 Eye disorders incl. 16 deaths
    • 11,562 Gastrointestinal disorders incl. 123 deaths
    • 46,545 General disorders and administration site conditions incl. 858 deaths
    • 212 Hepatobiliary disorders incl. 22 deaths
    • 793 Immune system disorders incl. 12 deaths
    • 14,808 Infections and infestations incl. 261 deaths
    • 1,594 Injury, poisoning and procedural complications incl. 37 deaths
    • 7,694 Investigations incl. 164 deaths
    • 1,064 Metabolism and nutrition disorders incl. 84 deaths
    • 21,229 Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders incl. 71 deaths
    • 148 Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) incl. 12 deaths
    • 29,060 Nervous system disorders incl. 298 deaths
    • 126 Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions incl. 1 death
    • 35 Product issues
    • 2,483 Psychiatric disorders incl. 35 deaths
    • 722 Renal and urinary disorders incl. 50 deaths
    • 4,066 Reproductive system and breast disorders incl. 6 deaths
    • 5,970 Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders incl. 390 deaths
    • 5,188 Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders incl. 16 deaths
    • 690 Social circumstances incl. 7 deaths
    • 1,201 Surgical and medical procedures incl. 101 deaths
    • 4,580 Vascular disorders incl. 197 deaths
    Total reactions for the COVID-19 vaccine NUVAXOVID(NVX-COV2373) from Novavax: 0 deaths and 3,096 injuries to 30/07/2022

    • 72 Blood and lymphatic system disorders
    • 182 Cardiac disorders
    • 1 Congenital, familial and genetic disorders
    • 42 Ear and labyrinth disorders
    • 1 Endocrine disorders
    • 60 Eye disorders
    • 225 Gastrointestinal disorders
    • 727 General disorders and administration site conditions
    • 3 Hepatobiliary disorders
    • 27 Immune system disorders
    • 170 Infections and infestations
    • 28 Injury, poisoning and procedural complications
    • 83 Investigations
    • 17 Metabolism and nutrition disorders
    • 416 Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders
    • 1 Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps)
    • 577 Nervous system disorders
    • 2 Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions
    • 1 Product issues
    • 49 Psychiatric disorders
    • 19 Renal and urinary disorders
    • 58 Reproductive system and breast disorders
    • 165 Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders
    • 207 Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders
    • 5 Social circumstances
    • 26 Surgical and medical procedures
    • 68 Vascular disorders

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    insurance-claims-vs.-german-government-fatalities-vaccines-3.jpg Shows how governments are full of bullshit.

    Any more points you need?
     
  6. Pro_Line_FL

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    There was an increase in heart attacks, but it was in 2020, before the vaccine had been invented. The reason for the heart attacks was Covid, which increased cardiovascular incidents significantly. The numbers are back down to pre-Covid ear, and the jabs played a big part in getting it under control.

    Wrong. Infections CAN and do cause heart attacks, which is why lot of Covid patients experienced them.

    Can an Infection Cause a Heart Attack?
    https://www.clevelandheartlab.com/blog/can-infection-cause-heart-attack/#:~:text=Infection dials up the body's,long after recovering from infection.
    Infection dials up the body’s immune response, generating inflammation that can cause plaque to rupture and create blockages that lead to heart attack and stroke. Patients tend to have high levels of inflammatory markers circulating in their blood stream long after recovering from infection.
     
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    Again raw data or are you going to tell me that the vaccine caused pregnancy and surgery

    Now this is out of how many administered vaccines

    Statistics are important
     
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    So where does real–––world/time data come from??? Raw data perhaps?
    Hmm, so many to choose from, all of them. Interesting that there are different effects and similar ones for each injection represented.
    auiqs.jpg.gif I thought you have had 30+ years of medical professional experience and you're coming up with that? I am not a medical professional and I know that they mean the complications and conditions brought on by the listed injections, the same goes with surgeries. Wouldn't it be that simple surgeries are complicated due to the listed injections, seriously? eusa_doh.gif
     
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    The context seems to be he wants to reduce population while improving quality of life, and that is best done by improving public health. Vaccines are just a part he happens to have a hand in. The more direct link to healthcare is more contraception and abortion though. It doesn’t have to mean that every component is reducing the population. How exactly is he reducing the population with healthcare other than contraception/abortion either? You have more ridiculous conspiracies for that too?
     
  10. UntilNextTime

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    auiqs.jpg.gif Yeah, that's what he want's to do. :roflol:
    More misinterpretation by those who don't want to wake up. Maybe now you need to listen to the actual time and place he explains it and why. Then you can "conspiracy theory" the crap out of it all you like.

    So when you do listen to him, listen carefully. It can't be any clearer by Gates talking about the population "and if we do a really great job with vaccines and reproductive healthcare, we can lower this number by 10~15%."

    Watch, you'll do your best to misinterpret it, I bet.

    Population Reduction - Bill Gates
     
  11. ricmortis

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    The Covid Jab in no way or form prevents anyone from catching or spreading Covid. Thus, not a vaccine but ONLY a drug that reduces the fever. More like Tylenol than an actual Vaccine.
     
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    Just proof that you have no idea what a vaccine is or how it works.
     
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    It is not a Vaccine if the drug does not stop any infection from happening or the spread of Covid. Thus, it is nothing more than Tylenol. In addition, the so called Vax never made it past Phase I in the drug trials. The FDA normally requires 3 Phases of Trials over a 5 to 10 year period. Our government panicked and rushed out a drug in 6 to 8 months with no completed trials so the sheep don't panic. We are still awaiting the completion of the 5 to 10 year trial on the guinnea pigs who have taken on all Liability for any adverse affects being our government for the first time ever has given Big Pharma no Liability for their drug.

    I posted a link a few days ago to one of many drugs that Pfizer has taken off the shelf in the past year due to lawsuits even though those drugs had 3 Phases of trials lasting 5 to 10 years. And, you, yourself actually think that a 6 to 8 month drug trial that didn't even make it past Phase I won't cause any problems because Big Pharma and the Government told you so as if Big Pharma and the US Government has never lied to you before. It is amazing to me that people are so incredibly gullible.
     
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    1. Vax never made it past Phase I in the drug trials. - WRONG

    It’s true that the COVID-19 vaccines arrived in record time, but the steps that were hurried “were essentially the paperwork,” Andrew Bradley, M.D., a vaccine expert and professor at the Mayo Clinic, explained in a recent media briefing.

    All three available vaccines in the U.S. — from Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson — were tested in tens of thousands of people in clinical trials and rigorously evaluated for their safety and effectiveness.

    2. our government for the first time ever has given Big Pharma no Liability for their drug. - WRONG

    According to 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22, "No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings."

    IOW, drug companies have had protection from liability for vaccines (ALL vaccines) for almost 40 years!

    I agree it's amazing how gullible some people are...and you, apparently, are one of them.
     
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    How gullible can you actually be when in US History, drugs required 3 Phases of trials over a 5 to 10 year period BEFORE Covid hit. Then, Big Pharma was given Carte Blanche to create something Warp Speed bypassing FDA regulations for long term tests. To cap it off, the Government gave Big Pharma zero liability for lawsuits for defects in the drug which has never happened before in history. Then, we get sheep who do what they are told and don't question a government who lies to us all the time and Big Pharma which gets hit with multiple lawsuits every single year over drugs that survived 3 Phases of a 5 to 10 year trial. And, they actually think this is normal and we should trust them. Sheep.

    And, if you think people cannot sue Big Pharma since 1988, I have a wooden nickel for you. Because, people sue Big Pharma over faulty drugs every year. Why do you actually think the US Government went out of its way to give Big Pharma no liability explicitely for the Covid Jab and not the others they are getting sued right now over.
     
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    1. US History, drugs required 3 Phases of trials over a 5 to 10 year period - WRONG
    There is no time period requirement for drug trials. They take as long as they take. The COVID vaccines benefited from work that had already been done before the COVID pandemic. There had already been work on vaccines for SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) and MERS (Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome) which are both related coronaviruses. Furthermore there had already been work done on the new vaccine technology MRNA.

    2. Government gave Big Pharma zero liability for lawsuits - WRONG
    As I already pointed out the immunity from liability for vaccines (ALL vaccines) has been around since 1988, almost 40 years ago. Big Pharma (as if they are all one company) may be sued for over drugs "every year" but NOT vaccines.
     
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    1. As long as you are happy with the one drug tested for 6 months over every other drug that has been tested for 5 to 10 years in US History as being viable accepting all liability, that is on you.

    2. Why did our government go out of its way to ensure no Liability again if some so called 1988 law was in effect? Why are people currently able to sue Big Pharma over other drugs that had their 5 to 10 year 3 phase trial?
     
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    Let's hope so. I've been a heart patient since my heart attack in 1988. I've had two bypass surgeries and one angioplasty. I think the term vaccine for such a drug is inappropriate. What you describe is really a therapeutic.
     

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