Moderna's new mRNA shot for Heart Attacks

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the covid shots were very safe and effective - millions and millions have had them without issue

    yes, people can have viral infections, and it can affect the heart, is that what you're saying this treats?
     
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    You are JOKING aren’t you? Surely? Don’t know about the TWONKS you lot elect but ours are generally smarter than that
     
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    You're serious, are you? auiqs.jpg.gif
    Because you haven't had an adverse event you can claim that statement, is that why?
    This was posted on the site on 4 Aug 2022;
    76,789 Deaths and 6,089,773 Injuries were Reported in U.S. and European Databases Following COVID-19 Vaccines

    10,000 people A DAY are being killed by covid vaccines; worldwide fatalities are likely larger than the HOLOCAUST

    Yep, really safe and effective.:rolleyes:

    Then you have Bill Gates state their ineffectiveness, where he has invested billions into big pharma.



    That's what the articles state.

    I'm not sure yet. I have to look into it further.
     
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    You say it's not, then WTF is it?
    It gets injected into the heart via a hypodermic needle and the substance is a fluid, what is it, a magical elixir?
     
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    I had a family member that had a reaction to penicillin, doesn't mean it was not a safe and effective drug

    and your database does not say they died because of this vaccine or any vaccine, nice spin though
     
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    Says nothing about type of delivery and as fas as my research has gone it has failed the first phase two trials
    https://s29.q4cdn.com/435878511/files/doc_downloads/program_detail/2022/08/Relaxin-(08-03-22).pdf
    https://s29.q4cdn.com/435878511/fil...l/therapeutics/2022/05/Relaxin-(05-04-22).pdf
    They have “tweaked” the formula though

    As I have said this will be another 5-10 years before it sees the marketplace unless the results are staggering
     
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    what this drug does...

    "It works by instructing human heart cells to generate a hormone that is known to improve blood flow, helping restore damaged heart muscles."

    that is not a vaccine.....
     
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    He keeps trying to sell the idea that somehow Bill Gates is Satan. I knowBG does not have a halo but this conspiracy theory nonsense is just that
     
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    IF and I emphasise IF you had bothered to read up on the research that was done on MRNA since the 1990’s you would be able to answer that for yourself. As for the delivery system you are making that up out of whole cloth because NO! No one is doing intracardiac injections - the risk of tamponade is too great ( Ye Gods but I hate Pulp Fiction - the amount of times I got asked about that bloody scene! )
     
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    And I bet you clicked on all the links with the 1st link, yeah? Not!
    Something you missed is located in the link labelled 'source'. https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=CAT&EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19
    But you can keep fooling yourself, as I don't need to.

    More on the 1st site

    https://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/ahrq-vaers-report-2011.pdf

    https://www.adrreports.eu/en/index.html
     
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    I'm talking about the OP and you state that it's not a vaccine, still waiting for your explanation of what it is. How is it administered again? Is it inhaled, secreted, ingested or teleported? Even the Big chart in post #86 says it's a VACCINE. So if the heart meds are mRNA based, the chart states VACCINES, the OP article states mRNA VACCINES, but you say they're not. C'mon, I wanna know what you think they are.
     
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    I missed nothing or you would quote it here
     
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    it's the same technology that delivered the vaccine, but this time it's being used for another purpose

    "It works by instructing human heart cells to generate a hormone that is known to improve blood flow, helping restore damaged heart muscles."
     
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    No, it's in the links provided.
     
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    you just can't find it to quote it here?
     
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    I know this already. Your pal @Bowerbird states it's not a vaccine, I would like her to explain what it is then if it ain't a vaccine, a hocus pocus elixir perhaps, snake oil even?
     
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    Too much info to copy & paste. As I stated, it's all in the links provided. You should know, as you claimed to have "missed nothing". :rolleyes:
     
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    The article explains it well but: It causes the heart muscle to produce a natural protein called relaxin. In the heart, this protein causes vasodilation. Vasodilation increases blood flow. Increased blood flow can help with healing and prevent further cell death. The hope is that this will improve recovery from a heart attack, which may reduce heart failure (or other complications) following heart attacks. Seems promising.

    Not heart attacks. You may be thinking of myocarditis. Myocarditis can result from an autoimmune response to the spike protein of covid, which the body produces through both natural infection and mRNA vaccination. Myocarditis is more likely to result from covid infection than vaccination. Thus, vaccination likely reduced the rate of myocarditis even though it is a potential side effect.

    Well geez the quote talks about reproductive health... I wonder how he proposes to reduce population growth. :roll:
     
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    Once again with feeling
    https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html

    Now compare the side effects of the vaccine with those of Paracetamol (Acetaminophen for Americans)

    https://www.drugs.com/sfx/paracetamol-side-effects.html
     
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    Can’t you précis?
     
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    See post 95 above although reading the Moderna presentations I linked to earlier what they are really hoping for is a rescue drug for heart failure itself
     
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    it's not a vaccine, I already provided a quote, a vaccine teaches the body to fight a virus, this is not doing that, thus not a vaccine, not sure what else there is to explain

    this teaches the body to release a hormone, not teach the immune system to attack a virus
     
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    Well GEEZE!
    Don't you cherry-pick! He also states in BIG RED LETTERS "NEW VACCINES", then goes on to say "health care and reproductive services". Did you fail to read that part or do you suffer from selective reading?
     

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