Monster Floods, Killing Droughts Are 'New Normal' in U.S. Weather

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They never address the longest drought of 1936. It doesn't fit into their political world view.
     
  2. politicalcenter

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    Some simple things can be done with a tree. Plant a tree to shade your AC unit. You will use less electricity.

    Plant trees to shade you house and driveway. You will cut the cold wind in winter and shade (and therefore cool) your house in summer.
    It will also reduce the "heat island" effect. Plant trees in public parks and recreational areas. It is much nicer to picnic in the shade.

    This cost little and benefits greatly.
     
  3. _Inquisitor_

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    Let's start from the 1st sentence.

    That is your personal feeling and your personal belief.

    I belive in God. I can explain what I mean

    What do you mean as world? What does mean for you it is getting warmer?

    Then we'll go to the next sentence, the next personal belief.
     
  4. politicalcenter

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    Without a change in farming practice we would be in a dust bowl now.

    China just had one.
     
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    I believe the hard records shoiw that it was 1920th. Since then droughts have been becoming shorter and of lesser magnitute. But I may be mistaken about the date when they started shortening.
     
  6. MisLed

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    Its cyclical guys. That's all there is to it. The world is not going to perish. hopefully just the envirowhackos.
     
  7. Hoosier8

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    That was the result. That doesn't change the cause.
     
  8. politicalcenter

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    Do a little research. Start with the expanding deserts.

    Then try the China dust bowl.

    Then do a little on climate change.

    And use good science sites like NASA, NOAA, ...anything besides whatsupwith that. or Fox News.
    Then I might get back to ya.

    Or can can just depend ON YOUR OWN OPINION.
     
  9. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since drought was expanding in the Southwest of North America before the settlers, what does that mean? The Anasazi didn't move because they found better rent.
     
  10. politicalcenter

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    I cannot believe people are so brainwashed they are against planting a tree.

    Even when you can point out a direct benefit to them personally.
     
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    Did I express my own opinion? What is it? Quote it.

    I asked 2 simple questions. You have done everything to avoid answering them.

    It is usual for people who have beleifs disconnected from reality. You are not different from any scientist. This is what I do - I demonstrate that scientists cannot answer a simple question and that cannot understand a simple question even if it is repeated 5 times.

    Thank you for participating in the demonstration.
     
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    Dude. People plant trees. I bet i've planted more trees than you've had birthdays.
     
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    Dude cannot believe people are so brainwashed they are against planting a tree.


    I cannot believe Dude sees people who are against planting a tree. Does he see little green creatures climbing up his legs?

    I have not seen a single believer in AWG demonstrating healthy perception of reality. Have you?
     
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    now that you're mentioned it. no.
     
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    I don't bother with the issue of AGW much anymore - the leftwing crazies have won with propaganda and ingnorance. Still, I did read that article in the OP... literally made me laugh.

    You alarmists are just so sad and pathetic. Did ya hear the one about rising sea levels?? ;)
     
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    The Anasazi did not live in Texas.
     
  17. politicalcenter

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    The cause was a lack of rain and the destruction of native grasses. If the native grasses were in place it would have just been a drought not a dust bowl.
     
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    Message to American Right and denialists in general - enjoy the rise in food prices - it will be a while before your markets recover

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2866ba4a-da40-11e1-b03b-00144feab49a.html#axzz229OIyDZV


    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...ing-corn-adds-to-u-s-drought-commodities.html
     
  19. politicalcenter

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    With all due respect Bower I have been preparing for this thing for a while now.

    I have my livestock, feed in the field, a garden and we have been getting rain.

    Cattle have been holding their price pretty well... considering...when the price gets low (it usually does when the rains stop) I will buy another head or two of beef.

    I have vegetables in the freezer, pigs in the pen, chickens in the henhouse, cattle in the field, and I am in the process of stocking my pond with fish.

    Since I am not a denier....I saw it coming.
     
  20. Bowerbird

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    Absolutely!!

    But there will be a lot of the "don't put your hands in MY pocket" people out there who are going to be screaming about food prices!!
     
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    Makes me wonder, when the earth changed to ice ages and back, and back again, many milliniums ago, what they called it then.

    Adapt and improvise. That's how we will make it through the next ice age too. :earth:
     
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    And placing blame on the right, the left, Obama, the USDA... the EPA...the list goes on and on.
     
  23. politicalcenter

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    Some will adapt and many will die.

    Do you think the unrest in the Mid East, the immigration problems in the U.S. and Europe are just because people do not like the politics?

    The circle is closing.

    People will pay any price for food when they are hungry and will kill when they don't get enough.

    And they will blame it on the government.
     
  24. Bowerbird

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    They called it "Ooops there goes my species" look up "abrupt climate change and mass extinction events"
     
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    Would you believe, I didn't see a single black athlete, on the field, with Forrest Gump?

    Forrest went to 'bama, and he runs off the field, with Lt. Dan chasing him. WUWT, dude?

    At least Forrest ALMOST saved Bubba, right?

    Let's move along . . . do you REALLY think people are going to make it, TO the next ice age? That seems in doubt.

    CO2 normally peaks, at 280 ppm, at every last Pleistocene Thermal Maximum, or during the Holocene Thermal Optimum, but guess what? Humans burned anything that will catch fire, and they cut forests, with CHAINSAWS!

    This pushed CO2, all the way, to 400 ppm, and it is headed, for 1000 ppm! It will take the Earth hundreds of thousands of years, to clear that CO2.

    And the temperature won't go down, dude! We are out-gassing CO2, 10 x faster, than before the PETM extinction, but worse, we are out-gassing CH4, faster than before the P-T extinction, THE LEADING KILLER, OF ALL TIME!!

    So our Mass Extinction Event 6, which may already be underway will contend, for one of the top spots, of all time killer of species and families, in Earth's history. Can you spell, 'D-E-A-D?' Yep, that's what we'll be!

    Any humans who make it, to the next ice age will have to live through a lot of death, which claims most sea creatures and a lot of land creatures. A lot of human habitat is already starting, to fail.

    The killer sea will end up full, of jellyfish. NS2 respirators will evolve. The sea level rise will force humans, inland, and then the heavy tides will massage plates, faults, and magma chambers. Guess what lunar tides will do, dude?

    Any big old volcanoes, already due to go off will go "BOOOOOOOOOM," and humans will have to scatter, toward the sea, but hey, we already know any land which is left habitable will either get too much heat, and not enough water, or too much water, of some kind or another. Humans are just about to die off, some.

    Humans might even give a crap, how we can make it to the endangered list, after a big die-off, which is imminent.

    I recommend such sites as AGU, NOAA, NASA, etc. Stay off the climategate and wattsupwiththat, eh?
     

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