"Monster' Solar Storm Erupts On The Sun

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    'Monster' Solar Storm Erupts On the Sun

    Sat Feb 26, 11:00 am ET


    “The sun unleashed a powerful flare Thursday (Feb.24) that – while not the strongest solar storm ever seen – let loose a massive wave of magnetic plasma in a dazzling display.

    The solar flare kicked up a huge, twisting tendril of plasma that scientists call a solar prominence. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the flare in an eye-catching video, with mission scientists calling the eruption a "monster prominence."

    "Some of the material blew out into space and other portions fell back to the surface," NASA scientists wrote in a statement released Friday (Feb. 25).

    Dazzling sun flare

    Thursday's solar flare was the latest in a series of strong sun storms this month. Scientists classified it as an M3.6 Class solar storm. NASA described the solar eruption as a "rather large-sized flare."

    Scientists use a three-class system to measure the strength and intensity of solar flares. The most powerful sun storms are Class X – a Class X2.2 solar flare erupted on Feb. 14. Class M solar storms are medium strength but still powerful, according to a NASA description. The weakest types of solar flares are Class C storms.

    Thursday's solar flare erupted from a new spot on the sun called sunspot 1163, according to the website Spaceweather.com, which monitors space weather and skywatching events. The flare was not aimed at Earth, and so should not pose a concern to satellites or other systems.

    "Earth was little affected," Spaceweather.com reported Friday. "Plasma clouds produced by the blast did not come our way."

    The active sun

    The sun is in the midst of an active phase of its 11-year solar weather cycle. The current cycle is known as Solar Cycle 24.

    Strong solar flares aimed at Earth can disrupt satellites and power grids, as well as pose a hazard to astronauts on spacecraft. They can also spark dazzling shows of the northern lights, or aurora borealis.

    The threat of solar flares to satellites and infrastructure has been gaining notice among decision makers lately. Last week, Jane Lubchenco – the chief of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration – told a gathering of scientists that the United States must take steps to protect assets from potentially dangerous space weather events.

    "This is not a matter of if, it's simply a matter of when and how big," Lubchenco said of the potential for a dangerous solar flare. "We have every reason to expect we're going to be seeing more space weather in the coming years, and it behooves us to be smart and be prepared."

    see: http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20110226/sc_space/monstersolarstormeruptsonthesun
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    The formerly gigantic sun flares have bypassed Earth into other directions, thus depleting the chances of damage to our planet, our technology, and to our wellbeing and health. It will increasingly bcome a problem for astronauts in outer space if a major sun flare erupts while they are there. Just as weather here on Earth is unpredictable in certain areas, weather patterns in outer space are influenced by huge sun flares, making space travel doubly hazardous in the coming years.
     
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    possum thinks mebbe its part of the sun's fusion regeneration...
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    A sun with no sun spots? What that could mean for Earth and its climate.
    June 14, 2011 - Three studies suggest a decline in sun spots – to the point that they could largely vanish for a long period. That could lead to fewer solar storms, as well as a chance to study whether fewer sun spots leads to a cooler climate on Earth.
     
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    Uncle Ferd ready for it - he got his tin-foil hat on...
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    Brits to shut grid for solar flare
    June 20, 2011 - BRITAIN is preparing to invoke emergency powers to turn off its electricity to shield the country from the worst effects of the biggest solar flare in 150 years.
     
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    Change the title to "This happens all of the time"..
     
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    Uncle Ferd got his tin-foil hat on so's it don't fry his brain...
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    NASA: Sun Emits Powerful Solar Flare, Produces Coronal Mass Ejection
    August 10, 2011 - The U.S. space agency, NASA, says the sun has emitted a powerful solar flare and a coronal mass ejection, but their radiation does not pose a threat to the Earth.
     
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    here is something to observe from the link:

    """his image provided by NASA shows a solar flare, the largest in 5 years. The image was was captured by NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) in extreme ultraviolet light at 131 Angstroms. Scientists say the bursts of radiation hurled by the solar blast were not in the direction of Earth, so there will be little impact to satellites and communication systems, August 9, 2011"""

    then below that portion what is shared in the post:

    """"Scientists say the solar flare that exploded with a burst of intense electromagnetic radiation on the sun’s surface early Tuesday is the largest in four years.""""


    then the part i noticed:

    """Astronomers say the sun is entering an increasingly violent period of its normal 11-year cycle. The interval of high activity, called the solar maximum, is expected to peak in 2013"""""


    which i knew was BS because the pole reversal is expected in 2012

    """"The Sun's magnetic north pole, which was in the northern hemisphere just a few months ago, now points south. It's a topsy-turvy situation, but not an unexpected one.

    "This always happens around the time of solar maximum," says David Hathaway, a solar physicist at the Marshall Space Flight Center. "The magnetic poles exchange places at the peak of the sunspot cycle. In fact, it's a good indication that Solar Max is really here


    .....The Sun's magnetic poles will remain as they are now, with the north magnetic pole pointing through the Sun's southern hemisphere, until the year 2012 when they will reverse again. This transition happens, as far as we know, at the peak of every 11-year sunspot cycle -- like clockwork

    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/



    from NASA itself, without the middle man screwing up
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - Bible says the earth gonna be destroyed by a big ol' ball o 'fire...
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    Sun storms 'could be more disruptive within decades'
    18 August 2011 - Solar storms may be more powerful at times of middling solar activity
     
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    Gonna take a day or two to get here...
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    Enormous solar outburst could dazzle your weekend
    January 21, 2012 - Auroras may dazzle more people than usual this weekend as Earth receives a glancing blow from an enormous solar outburst that erupted on Jan. 19.
    See also:

    Northern lights: Huge solar flare may trigger Saturday night show
    January 20, 2012 - Northern lights show this weekend? A big solar plasma wave is heading toward Earth, and may create Northern lights or aurora borealis display by Saturday night.
     
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    Predictions are for a flare later this year or early next year that could kill millions of people worldwide. The US estimates that it could take 10 years and 4 trillion dollars to repair the damage, to the US alone.
     
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    Links(s)? If that's so then I'm surprised nobody's talking about it.
     
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    It's been discussed a lot in scientific things.
     
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    I've found reports that it could possibly create serious damage to electrical grids and disrupt various technologies, but none so far that it could cause mass death.
     
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    Getting the grids back up and running will take years and many people would be without power for months. People will die.
     
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    Our hospitals generally only have generator capacity for about 24 hours at maximum
     
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    Granny always gets an ache in her knee when there's a solar storm...
    :grandma:
    System could warn of solar storms
    15 August 2012 - Solar flares can send high energy particles streaming towards Earth
    See also:

    Galaxy cluster's 'starburst' surprises astronomers
    15 August 2012 - Astronomers have seen a huge galaxy cluster doing what until now was only theorised to happen: making new stars.\
     
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    Phooey, somebody noticed solar cycle 24 peaks, in 2013.

    The max will be 90 sunspots, per day, which you can find out, anywhere sciencey.

    Also, this is the mildest cycle, since the one, which peaked in 1928, with 68 sunspots.

    Methinks we have rising concentrations, of atmospheric GHGs, so any radiation we get burns the ice right up and warms up the Earth, for thousands of high temp records, yo!
     
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    you are just looking at the predictions of spot(s)

    not the reversal itself as to why and whay happens to the sun as a mirror of what happens to earth.

    ie.... could the spinning compases of planes in the 'triangle' be a sort of 'spot' on earth? (have ya ever thought of that?)

    My very first item with physics was mercury's orbit within the suns em fields (hence the progressing orbit (momentum)), and from the moons entanglement to the earth to the bermuda triangle phenomena. ie... could the region (BT) be a place of a earth 'magnetic anomaly'?
    so if more hot stuff is reaching the earth, is it possible that a pole reversing could enable far more energy into the atmosphere?

    did columbus identify and record that the north pole moved all over the place?


    even NASA posts the ne idea on the internet

    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-poleReversal.html


    Another doomsday hypothesis about a geomagnetic flip plays up fears about incoming solar activity. This suggestion mistakenly assumes that a pole reversal would momentarily leave Earth without the magnetic field that protects us from solar flares and coronal mass ejections from the sun. But, while Earth's magnetic field can indeed weaken and strengthen over time, there is no indication that it has ever disappeared completely. A weaker field would certainly lead to a small increase in solar radiation on Earth – as well as a beautiful display of aurora at lower latitudes -- but nothing deadly. Moreover, even with a weakened magnetic field, Earth's thick atmosphere also offers protection against the sun's incoming particles.

    The science shows that magnetic pole reversal is – in terms of geologic time scales – a common occurrence that happens gradually over millennia. While the conditions that cause polarity reversals are not entirely predictable – the north pole's movement could subtly change direction, for instance – there is nothing in the millions of years of geologic record to suggest that any of the 2012 doomsday scenarios connected to a pole reversal should be taken seriously. A reversal might, however, be good business for magnetic compass manufacturers[/quote]
     
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    1. Sunspots aren't related to the reversal, dude. Get it or don't. The predictions are ordinarily very, very accurate. Get a clue.

    2. What happens in the BT is probably related to weather events. A lot of water-spouts and shear phenomena happen, near the BT.

    3. The hot stuff includes cosmic rays, etc. It doesn't include solar plasma reaching the Earth. You answered your own question, with the NASA paste.

    4. Columbus was lucky, the Roman Catholic Church wasn't purging sailors, for getting around, but they'd apparently found out, how the Earth was a spheroid.

    Columbus wanted GOLD. He started up the oppression, which led to decimation of native peoples. You can't seriously think CC was able to take measurements, of magnetic shifts. :sleepy:
     
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    Giant loops in the solar atmosphere may trigger reversals of the Sun's magnetic poles, new study reveals
    BY MARK SHWARTZ

    New findings by Stanford astronomers may help solve one of the most baffling questions in solar science: What causes the Sun's magnetic poles to flip-flop every 11 years?


    "Like Earth, the Sun has magnetic poles," Kosovichev said, "but unlike Earth, the Sun's polarity is not constant. It changes every 11 years from magnetic north to magnetic south and back. However, the origin of these periodic reversals is unknown."

    Earlier studies showed that polarity reversal occurs at the middle of the 11-year cycle --- a period known as the "solar maximum," when the number of sunspots are at their peak. Scientists believe that sunspots -- which are often accompanied by solar flares and explosions -- result when pent-up magnetic fields generated in the dynamo finally break through the surface


    http://news.stanford.edu/news/2002/june12/solarmagnet-612.html

    1st... stupid claim, shut down

    ah dah............ whether is affected by the magnetic fields. Have you ever seen the ribbing of clouds? That is the fields
    i said, the HYDROGEN, hitting the earths OXYGEN combines to make H2o, heat and water. I provided evidence that masss, does come to the earth, from solar flares and you had no idea.

    and round, which morons of theology, didnt like.

    What columbus did for science, was perhaps keep the best records of the roaming pole of any mariner of his time.


    the gold? perhaps for a church, but like darwin, some people do what they do, for the good of knowledge.
     
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    You moved from claiming sunspots affect the Earth's reversal, to showing likelihood that the 11-year solar cycle is related to the Sun's magnetic reversal. Stupid trick; the Sun is not the Earth.

    Dude, I believe cosmic rays hit the Earth. Any H2 from the Sun isn't enough, to put down water, to cover 3/4 of the surface. Heard of "comets?" Of course, anybody who doesn't find any links, to your crackpot rants must be "stupid" or "moron" or into "theology."

    Link to your theory, of H2 escaping the Solar gravity, to arrive, at the Earth, in any quantity. Of course, you also need to get us a link, to cosmic rays. While you're at it, get us a GRB site.

    Any links? Or are those "stupid?" Look what you found, with a nudge, toward how the Solar reversal happens. A really good theory source. So you must have a link, to your hypothesis, about how solar H2 gets to the Earth.
     
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    http://space.about.com/od/sunsol/a/Solar_Flare_2012_Conspiracy.htm

    Will A Massive Solar Flare Destroy the Earth?
    By John P. Millis, Ph.D, About.com Guide

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    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...r-flares-solar-weather-coronal-mass-ejections

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...storms-expected-knock-National-Grid-2013.html

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    Can't find any theories, of your big old solar plasma with enough H2 to make water, guy. Our grid might wack, during a CME. You betcha. You might run more searches and post less loaded language, you know?
     
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    You perhaps should go to the religious section, if science, nor reading comprehension is relevant.

    I nevr sade gat sundot, meak erf revrsd magentik phieild''d's'

    If you like you use failing integrity, with lack of reading comprehension, please stick with either politics or religion.

    every second of every moment

    a few billions years?????


    what?


    i think you must have one buzzing in your head



    Sorry.....

    i dont ask people to believe me, nor do i ask people look to see what others say, about me. I was pointing out what EVEN You could read, realize and comprehend, so NO ONE needs to TELL YOU how to think.




    perhaps read a bit, it was the satalites that measured the H, that is LEAVING the sun and in the solar flares


    No i dont.

    You dont represent with integrity; you will get what i give, when I want.

    When you share honesty to science, then you can ask and have grounds to expect.
     
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    I think you write illiterate crap, with a lot of loaded language. /\ /\

    Your theory of flares hitting the Earth, to make water is on the following web-page:

    http://missionignition.net/todd/solar_flares.php


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    http://darsannamaste.blogspot.com/2010/09/2012-solar-flares-equaling-to100-mil-h2.html

    You probably got your theory of solar H hitting the Earth, to make water, off this guy, TODD, but you linked to a NASA report.

    You know what you are doing? You are writing a lot of trolling posts, with a lot of loaded language, which maybe should be reported, for plagiarism.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/19/two-solar-flares-sunspot-geomagnetic-storms_n_1608566.html

    What will happen during a CME:

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    You write a LOT of really punk rants, in bad English. I told you to link, to your theory, but instead, you appear to be trolling. The idea of the Earth's field being completely down, during reversal is interesting, but not evident.
     
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    old old sheet

    If i could write and chew bubble gum at the same time, i could be as rich as you and warren buffett combined, if that is what i valued.

    in each concept written you will find someone, somewhere, doing their homework, while the 'know it alls', are sitting here arguing with the idiot planting the seeds (ideas), all over da place.

    being an idiot has its advantages
     

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