Morality with these kids

Discussion in 'Immigration' started by BigElectron, Jul 10, 2014.

  1. BigElectron

    BigElectron New Member Past Donor

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    Do you think that there is any morally justifiable position that allows you to send all of these Central American kids home?
    I happen to not think so.
     
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    Liquid Reigns Banned

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    Since many came here because their parents are here, send their parents back home, they can take their kids with them. :roll:
     
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    BigElectron New Member Past Donor

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    So, that's one "no." Also, facts.
     
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    Is it not morally justifiable to deport their illegal parents? Is it not morally justifiable that the parents take their kids with them? Who determines what is morally justifiable or not, you? What facts are you now wanting, the only fact we need is the fact that they are here illegally.
     
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    BigElectron New Member Past Donor

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    That illegality is born from drawing lines in the sand. Stealing and murdering is stealing and murdering, no matter where you are. I am not looking for the legality, because President Obama has been changing these laws, and are therefore not being treated as morally viable. Whether you agree with what the presidential action or not, I'm looking for morals, not laws.
     
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    I'll ask again - Morals, as defined by who, you? These children all have parents or relatives, it is the families responsibility and their morals to take care of their kids. Is it not our morals to explain and teach these kids right from wrong, that in violating our laws they are wrong and that there are consequences for actions?

    Obama has been changing policies, his policies are questionable as to whether they fall within the legal limits of the laws. Is the President not doing the moral thing in trying to locate these kids families?

    Do you not agree?
     
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    Our borders are supposed to be sovereign. These kids should immediately get a trip back to their home country, where their government can find their parents. To take responsibility for these kids will only lead to twice as many more coming next year. At some point, we cannot afford these people. (like right now) If their countries are so bad, subsidizing their responsibilities will only allow them to keep driving people to our doorstep.

    I have a moral obligation to provide for my children and give them the best future I can. They bring diseases that we have eliminated here. They tax our healthcare, education, and criminal justice systems heavily. What kind of responsible parent sends their kids by themselves to another country. We would be arrested for child abuse if we sent our kids unescorted on a ship or train to South America.

    Also, I have doubts about the innocence of these children. I have been hearing that most of them are 14-18 years old and many of them are gang bangers. Anything but sending them back home is irresponsible and bad for my family.

    I find it odd that we are not allowed to see pictures of these kids. They have no problem showing pictures of our kids in public schools. If they want privacy, their parents should provide it like we do for our kids.

    I could rant all day about this situation that we are being illegally forced into by this administration. I'm sure I'll be called heartless, racist, or some other adjective, but I know I'm right. Two years ago 0bama used his phone and his pen to ensure that our government would not deport anybody under the age of 16. This is the result of that action and tying the hands of our border patrol. The feds micromanage this nation and run over the responsibilities of the states and they refuse to do what they were tasked to do in the Constitution. I don't see how we have a "uniform rule of naturalization". We have laws and the president is picking and choosing which laws will be ignored and which laws he wants to change with executive order. He demands that we spend an extra $3.4B to clean up the mess he created and blames Congress for not handing him another blank check. I'll accept these kids when we start getting very large financial support from their home countries. Until then, it's not my problem and I would send them home faster than they got here. How long until terrorists figure out that they can give these kids really bad diseases that they can spread in the US for them? That will be really good for these kids.:roll:
     
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    So if I drop my kids off at your house (hypothetically speaking, I actually have none), and you don't take them in and assume responsibility for their care, you're being immoral?
     
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    That's a great analogy. If your "kids" were dropped off on his door step, he would call the police. They would find you and hold you responsible for the welfare of your kids. You would be declared to be an unfit parent and fined out the wazoo or thrown in jail.
     
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    So therefore, we shouldn't try to reunite these children with their parents, since the parents are clearly unfit for sending their child on such a journey with coyotes. If I understand your "morality," in this situation we should return these kids to their respective governments since they have crap parents.
     
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    Exactly. Let their government return the kids to their parents. If their parents are here, let them come get their kids and they can go home together. Otherwise, we will become a dumping ground for kids at an increasing rate. How long until terrorists start giving these kids really bad diseases to be disbursed across the country? How will that benefit these children?
     

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