More lies about Israel and hospitals

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  1. RWKindaguy

    RWKindaguy Newly Registered

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    Except that Israel not only provided strong evidence, but extensive video as well. More lies from Al Jazeera and its fellow travelers.
     
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    Ehud Barak states that the tunnel level of the hospital and surrounds were constructed by ISRAEL when ISRAEL ruled that area.

    That's why they knew the tunnels in that area existed - THEY BUILT THEM.

    Israel has NOT produced evidence that the hospital was used as a Hamas command center.


    Israel had suspicions, so they blew up the hospital, slaughtering doctors, the injured, children and others who desperately needed emergency care and their relatives.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are just selling a product they know their audience is eager to consume.
     
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    Also, Israeli video can not be measured by how "extensive" it is. It has to actually show something.

    As for the video of the tunnels under the hospital, that video has been debunked.

    Israel is trying to cover for its slaughter of civilians.
     
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    All of israel's most heinous claims are just made for western idiots so they're suckered into the grift. They make an outlandish claim, the MSM repeats it as fact, and then everyone watching the MSM is brainwashed with the psyop. I hear about all these atrocities but they never seem to provide any video evidence. It's because it's bullshit.
     
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    The video has NOT been debunked. Saying so doesn't make it a fact.
     
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    They have provided more than enough proof. That the far left buys into the Hamas lies is telling, but not surprising.
     
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    Source for "Ehud Barak states"?

    What does "tunnel level" mean?

    The Al Shifa hospital was constructed by Israel, not the tunnels.
     
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    We're really tuned to want the Israeli version - no matter how illogical or contrary to what's on the ground.

    Our support has been solidly behind Israel for years, no matter what they do.
     
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    @2:28

    This appears not to be the only time that he has stated that these were constructed by Israel.

    BUT, the story Israel gives our gullible press is that the existence of the tunnels proves it was a Hamas command center and therefor, they were free to bomb the hospital as well as make serious "human shield" claims against Hamas. So we see images of premature babies being rescued from the HOSPITAL and going on a "road trip" south - while other babies didn't survive the bombing.

    And, this is NOT the only hospital Israel has attacked with major military weapons. Israel told people to go South. But, Israel is attacking hospitals there, too.

    Besides the attacks, they are doing so in the North AND in the South while denying hospitals fuel for generators and basic medical supplies.

    Plus, they have killed the doctors.

    This is an absolute phenomenal atrocity carried out by the people of Israel. And, it's spilling over into West Bank, too. Settlers living on stolen land in West Bank are shooting Palestinians there, too, where Israeli MILITARY law they live under will not object to Palestinians being murdered by settlers.
     
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    No, they absolutely have NOT shown proof.

    In fact, the main video Israel has been promoting shows an Israeli wearing a watch that shows a time that is not consistent with the Israeli claims.

    They shows a picture of a gun. Then, the camera moves away and then comes back to show 2 guns!!! Who is supplying Israel with those guns to photograph. And, how does THAT indicate a COMMAND CENTER???

    Then, Ehud Barak points out that Hamas did not build those tunnels. They were built by ISRAEL when Israel occupied Gaza.
     
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    Barak said that the bunker was built by Israel, not the tunnels. It makes sense. It's a basement. Don't hospitals in the US have basements?
     
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    This isn't the only time he's told his story. How much Israel built isn't clear.

    But, the main point is that at the outset Israel used the existence of that space as proof of Hamas use as a command center.

    And, this was at a time that Israel was bombing the hospital.

    So now, I REALLY want to know how Israel made the decision to bomb the hospital.

    What intel did they have that was so good that to them it justified killing the patients, doctors and families at the hospital?

    What is the life of a Palestinian civilian worth?

    The majority Israel has killed appear to be mostly women and children - by several accounts. That is ENTIRELY expectable given Israel's methods.

    This IS and atrocity that I can find NO POSSIBLE WAY of justifying.
     
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    When did Israel bomb the hospital? What hospital?
     
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    It seems you will believe nearly anything.
     
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    We've seen the security camera of the Hospital when Hamas dragged our kidnapped civilians into Shifa on Oct 7th, we've seen lots of weapons there, IDF found a tunnel just outside the hospital going under it and they will uncover more in time - that's enough to prove Shifa is part of the war.

    The only deaths were of those who fought and I don't care what Hamas calls them...a 40 y old rapist turns to a sick handicapped child in your media - screw that....no amount of lies will save your hamas now.

    A Palestinian civilian live is worth as an Israeli civilian life - Israelis give you a chance to run a way before thje battle begins while for Hamas the civilians ARE the battle.
    I agree this atrocity cannot be justified but we are used to see the Muslims as a "special" child that needs understanding.....
    That's gone now
     
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    What hospital, when did they bomb it? Who verified the deaths, the Hamas Health Agency?
     
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    The site you used for your YouTube is virulently anti_Israel in its coverage. Did you not think we would check out the source?
     
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    Slow down, cowboy. I replied to Will Readmore, he's the one who uses anti-Israel sources. I'm Israeli, and a proud Zionist.
     
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    Israel provoked Hamas by simply existing. Hamas provoked Israel by Hamas's demonic butchery of twelve hundred of Israel's citizens and taking others captive back into Gaza on Oct.7th. Not to mention the eight thousand rockets which Hamas fired into Israel from Gaza while they were butchering Israeli citizens. This is why the Israeli military is now in Gaza.
     
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    My apologies, it was directed at whoever posted the youTube
     
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    Even the ***** at the BBC aren't buying israel's bullshit anymore (and the BBC is propaganda central)

     
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    They had well over a month to evacuate and waited till the last hour to do anything. Bummer about the babies but the adults who forced them to be there for over a month are at fault. Hence why it’s a war crime to use babies as shields.

    You should make sure to be extra harsh with terrorists and any others who use babies as shields so that this tactic is not used. How do you plan on being harsh with them?
     
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    There is no possible way to know who is killing who in this war. You people are doing the same thing you did during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars: All civilian casualties were to be attributed to the US.

    I'm hearing these stories about snipers shooting journalists or UN workers. And they just automatically attribute the bullet to an Israeli rifle. As if the bullet had a note from the Israelis. I say, "Hey terrorist sympathizer who says your fellow aid worker was killed by the Israelis, did you ever stop and think that a group of men willing to do Oct 7 just might be willing to shoot a foreign aid worker to blame it on Israel? Did you send the bullet to a ballistics lab? Or did you see the glint of the Israeli scope in the distance like it's a Modern Warfare game, and that's how you knew to immediately run your mouth off at the Israelis?"

    You people don't seem to understand Hamas strategy, and the tactics they are using to achieve it. You are aware that Israel has intelligence assets within Gaza? Filipino and other foreign workers would represent a large chunk of those, but I imagine they have Palestinian assets like the son of Hamas guy. And you are aware that out of all the Israeli assets, some sre double agents that are actually serving Hamas?

    How do you think these assets are serving Hamas during this war? It couldn't be that they are attempting to trick Israelis into say, firing on an ambulance convoy returning from Rafah, or a hospital? No way men who would take other people's babies as hostages would take such elaborate, heinous actions to get their own civilians killed? Would they?

    Again, I don't think the Israel haters have a clue on who, and what dynamics, are getting people killed here.
     
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    True, just as we don't know who killed the 500 israeli civilians on Oct 7th. What we do know is that an AK-47 doesn't reduce an entire neighborhood to simply embers..
     
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