More lies about Israel and hospitals

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  1. RWKindaguy

    RWKindaguy Newly Registered

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    Perfectly stated. This is exactly what happened.
     
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    Who told you that there is 200 miles of tunnels? The Israeli government?
     
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    That is what Israel is doing.

    Hamas can not possibly be guilty off genocide. It simply doesn't have any possibility of that.

    Hamas is certainly terrorist. But, they couldn't carry out genocide if they wanted to.
     
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    That doesn't make sense.
     
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    It's been widely reported by the MSN. Are they liars?
     
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    Hospital was built in 1946 by the British. Israel built the tunnels.
     
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    I doubt it.
     
  8. WillReadmore

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    Interesting history.

    BUT, we do NOT set borders based on archaeological record.

    And, we do NOT condone bulldozing peoples homes simply because you really really want their property.

    By international law, if borders change the people who are now living in a different country become full citizens of their new country. Israel has NO JUSTIFICATION AT ALL for stealing land owned by Palestine and its citizens.
     
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    It's in their charter. Whether they can actually carry it out or not, they will never stop trying. For example; if Israel stopped all hostilities toward Hamas, would Hamas stop trying to kill Jews? Answer, No. If Hamas stopped all hostilities toward Israel, would Israel stop trying to kill Hamas terrorists? Answer, Yes. That's the difference between the two.
     
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    What matters is not international law, but Israeli law, and the Law of Moses:

    Genesis 12:6-7 And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land.And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

    Genesis 13:14-15 And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

    Genesis 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've really never heard of the Haavara Agreement between the German Zionist Federation and the National Socialists, the Ankara Documents in which the Zionist terrorist gang, Irgun (aka NMO) agreed to fight the British with National Socialist (Nazi) Germany or that there were 150,000 Jews in Germany's WW 2 military(1) with 25 Jewish Generals (2)?

    Additionally, there were high ranking Jewish Nazi Party members(3) who also held their positions with the full knowledge and approval of Hitler and the German High Command.

    Just because the fraudulent Holocaust Industry(4), (5) has a muzzle on Hollywood and MSM doesn't mean that there are many inconvenient facts that aren't available through simple, independent research.



    (1). "AS MANY AS 150000 JEWS SERVED IN HITLERS MILITARY"
    https://thegreateststxxorynevertold.tv/as-many-as-150000-jews-served-in-hitlers-military/

    EXCERPT "As many as 150,000 Jews served in Hitlers military, some with the Nazi leader's explicit consent, according to a U.S. historian who has interviewed hundreds of former soldiers.

    Bryan Mark Rigg, history professor at the American Military University in Virginia, told Reuters on Thursday that the issue of soldiers of partial Jewish descent was long a somewhat taboo subject, overlooked by most academics as it threw up thorny questions."CONTINUED


    (2). "Historian claims Hitler personally approved officers of Jewish descent to fight for Nazis"

    ADOLF HITLER personally allowed at least 77 army officers of Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause…
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/his...-of-jewish-descent-to-fight-for-nazis-1.58495


    (3). “List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

    EXCERPT “Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent. “ CONTINUED


    (4). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    (5). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED
     
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    Have you forgotten that it was Israel that created Hamas to destroy the PLO?

    Given Israel's countless False Flag deceptions and Zionist obsession with creating a "Greater Israel", it's hard to believe that at least some members of the Netanyahu regime didn't know about the coming 7 October attack considering the following:

    1. The day before the Hamas attack, Israel had intelligence that an attack was looming.
    2. The Egyptians may have sent intelligence to them three days before.
    3. The day before, Israel had several high-level meetings on a possible attack by Hamas.
    4. The attack on Israel occurred on a Holy holiday, exactly 50 years to the day of the attack on Israel and war of 1973.
    5. Arabs like to attack on holidays and recurring dates and events.
    6. The decision at these meetings was to do nothing. Not to call out the IDF to man the border.
    7. Who made that decision?
    8. In 1973, Golda Meir made a similar decision not to attack first to prevent being attacked in order to stave off international criticism.
    9. Border guards in Israel who have been interviewed prior to the attack of last week stressed that they had all kinds of monitoring equipment of every type watching the Israeli border 24/7 day and night and a bug couldn't move out there without their knowing about it.
    10. After the attack, despite there being IDF everywhere in the country and military gear everywhere, help to the Israeli victims took between 8 to 20 hours to arrive. Why?
    The heinous attack on 7 October would not be the first time that Zionists have been willing to sacrifice Jews for Greater Israel:

    “If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”

    Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth’s Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).
    https://www.progressiveisrael.org/ben-gurions-notorious-quotes-their-polemical-uses-abuses/
     
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    ???
     
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    If Israel's leaders did not sign international agreements preventing them from annexing and settling land conquered by the Israeli Defense Force, those agreement are not binding for Israel.
     
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    It has been widely reported by the MSN. Just because you want to put your fingers in your ears is not my problem, and it doesn't change the facts.
     
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    Never was their land and never will be. I know that must hurt, but it's how it's going to be. And all your posturing will never change that fact.
     
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    Do you honestly believe this, or are you just jerking us around for fun? False flag operations, Zionest obsessions, Some had to know. Reads like a spy novel. But it's all fantasy. I get it. I'll never convince some here (maybe even you) But I do know that an armor Bn was dispatched and took out countless Hamas Terrorists within about thirty minutes of the attack, thus saving an entire Kibbutz in the process. Have you seen the video or heard the members of the tank crews that participated? Doesn't sound like a false flag operation to me. I'm sure the Hamas terrorists killed didn't think so either.
     
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    Israel did not build the tunnels. Hamas built them using money that was supposed to go for humanitarian aid. You can shout your propaganda to the roofs thinking that it will sway people ... but
    Again, we see more false information. A MAJOR renovation and expansion was completed by the Israelis in the 1980s. No tunnels were built by them.
     
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    Made up lies
     
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    Nope.

    The hospital was founded in 1946 by the British in old army barracks. The modern building was built by Israel. It was designed by Israeli architects Gershon Zippor and Benjamin Idelson.
     
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    Genocide like the Turks did to the Kurds in WW1 or Germany to the Jews in WW2 is not possible - I hope - in the 21st century, these crimes can only be done if one conceals them from public eye, domestic and abroad.
    We have had wars with thousands and hundred of thousands of civilian casualties around the world' I don't think its possible to think of a war without.

    In this war, Hamas cannot kill all the Jews in Israel that's true, but on Oct 7th they did carry such a genocidal attack, they would kill everyone in Israel if they could, and that's enough to fight them till one side surrenders.
    This made all Israelis realize that we cannot expect peace for peace, or money for peace, land for peace only makes them more thrilled because - and that's true to all Jihadi terror groups - they demand all the land river to sea, not how they present it here as 67 borders...

    And so, not out of revenge but necessity, we must "peacefully" destroy Hamas. in all the decades of war they did the unforgiven. Hamas terrorists can still surrender if they want, that's not genocide.
    Regarding the "innocent" civilians, we saw many civilians ravaging our towns on Oct 7th for about 3 days, some raped, some murdererd, some kidnapped, there was a 3 day celebration in Gaza strip.
    Ofc they also elected Hamas and its even the most popular leadership even in the WB, much more than Abu Mazen PLO. - so they need to learn about responsibility, you cant teach toddlers that killing a Jew is a blessing and expect them to grow up normally, this is the only result possible.
    And so, such civilians also have a choice, to run to safe places or stay near their fighters and support them - in which case - to me - they are no longer "innocent" and the term "civilian" stops as soon as they pick up a weapon.

    Here is something that Europeans and many Americans don't understand yet, we will fight Hamas wherever for as long as it takes and at whatever price it will take out of our international relationships, yes, even under sanctions. this is the Israeli view crossing political parties, take it from someone who protested against the Israeli Gov every week for the past year till Oct 7th.
     
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    What are you talking about ? the wars or punishment to terrorists ? you make it sound this happens every Thursday....
     
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    Yes, False Flag operations beginning with the Lavon Affair in which Mossad firebombed US installations in Egypt, blamed Egypt and hoped to get the US to attack Egypt for the "terrorist attack"

    Israel's initial attack on our USS Liberty was done with unmarked French Mirage jets who destroyed communication abilities first and later strafed lowered life rafts to leave no Americans alive.

    I spent 10 - 11 months walking and hitch hiking around the Islamic Middle East including the Levant trying to get both sides of the story.
    Before that, I was stationed in NNE Laos during the Vietnam War when the idea that US Troops in Laos was claimed to be a "conspiracy theory".

    As long as you're relying only on Hollywood and pro Israel MSM, (1) you're only going to hear Israel's Hasbara propaganda.

    Thanks,

    (1) “Studies continually show strong pro-Israel bias in western media”
    http://www.middleeasteye.net/column...trong-pro-israel-bias-western-media-881718416

    EXCERPT “Mainstream western media outlets are, by and large, infused with a pro-Israeli ideological bias that colors nearly all mainstream Western reporting on Israel-Palestine.

    Israel is assumed to be good, peaceful, and like ‘us’. The Palestinians, meanwhile, are backwards, violent, and foreign. These are the assumptions that most western news outlets start with... " CONTINUED
     
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    Israel used to bulldoze the homes of convicted terrorists as an attempt to make terrorism less attractive. It didn't work. Obviously they didn't want the property. They destroyed it for this purpose.
     

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