More lies about Israel and hospitals

This has always bothered me since my reading on the subject has led to the conclusion that Israel was heavily involved in this. With that said, I don't believe that they have created any "false flag" operations concerning the Oct 7th attacks. That was pure Hamas.

 

I've already explained that Israel made extensive improvements to the hospital in the 1980s. He's just stuck in his own propaganda and can't escape even when facts are presented.

 

Anything that doesn't square with your version is a lie ... got it.

 

Destroyed to diminish suicide terror attacks, I agree it didnt work

 

Every account of the USS Liberty incident that alleges Israel knowingly attacked a US ship begins with or contains a lie. That's why none of them should be taken seriously.

The lie is usually in the first paragraph, where the reader is told that Israel attacked the ship of its friend and ally the US. But Israel and the US were not friends, nor allies, back then. Anti-Israel narratives are based on emotional manipulation based on a lie...

This is what anti-Zionists usually put in their narratives: a mix of lies, unproven premises, gaslighting, and attempts to drive wedges between Israel and the rest of the world. They are allergic to facts and critical thinking.

 

And still no evidence of 200 miles of tunnels..........

 

Who ceded the land to Jews?

 

Who or what ceded Palestine to Jews?

 

We did (UK) and look at the thanks we got, the lynchings of our brave soldiers that saved them from the Holocaust.

That's why I'll never trust Israelis.

 

What an awesome statement of disdain for law as well as promotion of humanitarian atrocity.

 

Yes, that certainly was an act of terrorism.

That's been agreed.

But, Israel is fighting Palestinians. And, they have been for many decades.

Keeping Gaza in abject poverty and hunger is not fighting Hamas - it is CREATING Hamas.

 

Look at the maps Israel has drawn, showing how much land they have stolen from Palestinians who were living there.

Remember that under the "roadmap" effort by President Bush, an effort that was primarily aimed at border negotiations, Israel demanded the right to continue its expansion in Palestine DURING NEGOTIATIONS!!

Palestinians in large areas of their own country are being rule by Israeli military law in which they have no representation.

Slaughtering Palestinian men women and children is not "punishment" - it's genocide.

 

The UK. Palestine was a UK protectorate at the time.

 

What law?

 

Exactly. But, you clearly aren't interested in any law, so I stand by what I said.

I do suggest that Israel stop slaughtering thousands of children. That is a path to hell in every religion.

 

Point out any lie in this eyewitness account:

http://www.gtr5.com/

"After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning.

"USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter.

"Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

"The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us.

"Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded.

"The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap."

 

In 1921 the UK issued its Balfour Declaration which called for a Jewish homeland in Palestine. By some accounts the word "homeland" was chosen for its vagueness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

UN Resolution 181 ceded 56% of Mandatory Palestine to Jews despite Arabs numbering twice the Jewish population.

Some argue the UN violated its own Charter by not calling for free and fair elections in Palestine at that time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

 

I feel the same way about most Israelis today.
I wonder if there's any way to ask why tragedies like the Holocaust have happened to Jews over thousands of years and across thousands of miles?
When I see social media from the West Bank where settlers are celebrating Nakba 2.0, I almost hope the Turks decide to liberate Jerusalem.

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/gaza-freedom-flotilla-to-sail-again/

 

It can't be allowed to be about Israelis or Palestinians.

Israelis are MAJORLY opposed to Netanyahu.

And, Hamas leadership is in Qatar and other places - not in harms way, like more than 2 million West Bank Palestinian citizens are.

I doubt any Palestinian thought that an attack on Israel would help Palestinians - other than by drawing attention to the plight of Gaza.

 

If the Jihadists really wanted to get rid of Israel, they ought to declare unilateral peace with Israel and stop all terrorist attacks against it

 

It's Israel that is perpetuating the war on Gaza.

That isn't in question.

And, it's ridiculous to think that Hamas believes it can end Israel.

 

You completely missed the point. give it some thought.

 

You - a generic "you" for the international community that accepts all the lies about Israel as the Gospel - are not only enabling Hamas and giving it legitimacy, but you are also responsible for its belief that it can end Israel.

All they hear is that Israel is a colonialist state, that Jews don't really belong in the Middle East, and that Palestinians are the brown cherry on top. They think that they can throw the Jews out of Israel by terror just like the French were thrown out of Algeria by terror. Except, of course, that no matter how long and hard the international community barks that Jews shouldn't have rights in the Middle East, Jews are still the only indigenous nation of what many like to call Palestine.

Your (again, generic) so-called pro-Palestinian stance is exactly what prevents peace, pouring fuel on the conflict for decades. Every concession made by Israel is seen by the Palestinian leadership as just another small victory on the way to total annihilation of the Jewish state.

 

I would have had no problem with a true Jewish homeland in Palestine, established over-time, gradually, as an authentic representation of demographic facts, with a federal democratic Palestinian state securing the rights of Jewish and non-Jewish residents until such time as the situation (without foreign design) allowed an independent Jewish state established as a natural outgrowth of the region's demographics, geopolitics, and history. But when something is established on deliberately rotten foundations based on oppression and lies, everything that follows from it is similarly rotten, oppressive and corrupted by lies.

Israel's fate, in the meantime, is directly linked with the success or failure of Western hegemonic input on the region. As long as that western ascendancy remains, Israel will likely survive. The minute that western ascendency is gone, Israel will be gone too. Once again consigned to the dustbin of history. It didn't have to be that way.

While the Iranian writer, Jalal Al Ahmad (praised profusely by both Ayatollah Khomeini and his successor, Ayatollah Khamenei, with highways, monuments, awards etc named after him in post revolutionary Iran), was probably high on the leftist weed he was consuming in his praise for the Israel of the 1950s/early 60s, he was (kind of) on the right track in reminding us about Israel could have been one day instead: an important and integral part of an eastern renaissance. An eastern renaissance that would help tame the fascist tendencies embedded in the same western impulses that had once seen the Jews targeted for persecution in Europe (and not just by the Nazis) and which are now aligned with this "Jewish homeland" to suppress the Middle east. In the process promoting lies and liars who are eroding the most enlightened aspects of western civilization in pursuit of mere hedonistic impulses that have no redeeming virtue.
https://search.worldcat.org/title/i...mad-islam-and-the-jewish-state/oclc/961874646
The Israeli Republic: An Iranian Revolutionary's Journey to the Jewish State

 

Meanwhile Israel are continually stealing land belonging to the Palestinians in the West Bank to construct more and more Israeli settlements. That is the reward for West Bank Palestinians for not carrying out terrorist attacks