More Lies: "I never said you could keep it"!

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  1. FearandLoathing

    FearandLoathing Well-Known Member

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    Just when you thought it was safe to come out in daylight, the universe shifts on it axis and you get something that can be proven in 29 separate videos that the president of the United States says never happened.

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/05/obama-denies-you-can-keep-it-videotaped-promises/


    I am sorry, Mr. President, but I have tried to give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. I really have.

    And I haven't seen all 29 videos, only about 13 of them, but no where do I hear any qualifier there. No where in them do I hear you say "if" or anything like that.

    At this point, a week after being outed that you knew all along, to come out with this lame, myopic, obvious lie to sell a lie, must be humiliating for you. Even worse is the example you're setting for your children.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look Liberals,

    As Americans, even when "our side" is wrong, we are supposed to stand up and call out those that did it. When Richard Nixon stepped too far out of line, it was Republicans that stood up as well and made him go. It's what you are supposed to do.

    However, we have a new sect of politicos today that refuse to do what is right. Barack Obama and his team went WAY out of bounds on this one. Continuing to lie and supporting it is pathological. It's wrong. It's sick. You should be better than that.

    Knock off the crap and do what you know you are supposed to do, not what benefits your ideology the most.

    Be an American before being a Liberal.
     
  3. stekim

    stekim New Member

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    He does that all the time! He says something then claims he never said it. Odd given that it's all on tape.
     
  4. Iron River

    Iron River Well-Known Member

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    No surprise that BH Obama says now,, that "What WE were saying" was that as long as the insurance company didn't try to screw you, you could keep your plan. First he changes it to "WE" as if he had nothing to do with the words he says and "YOU" should have known that it is the insurance companies that are at fault.

    39% still support him.
     
  5. FearandLoathing

    FearandLoathing Well-Known Member

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    What Obama in his inexperience doesn't realize is that it is because the Republicans of that day rallied behind what what right that they managed to come back in 1980 when even the most gifted political scientists were sure they would live in the political wilderness for decades.

    That however changed for both sides in the 90's, now.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yes, there is very much an accusatory tone to the whole thing, like its your fault for not understanding him and his "enemies" fault for making a deal out of it.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;thyffmWejtM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thyffmWejtM[/video]
     
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    From the link in the OP, this says it all...

     
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    According to Wikipedia...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
     
  9. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    Feel free to show where the ACA has legislated to "take away" someones healthcare
     
  10. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama admitted that the UnACA legislated to take away the HC plans that Obama & Co. deemed "substandard', despite the fact that consumers were perfectly happy with them.

    Where have you been the past week, Wiz - out spelunking? :)
     
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    Wow, really? The semantic version of grasping at straws? If it disqualifies a plan, I'm pretty sure you could consider that a "take away" that forces an individual to switch to something else, which will most certainly come at a higher cost unless the individual is among the very poor.

    Where is CNN touting all the people saving an average of $2,500 per year in protection of the claims of truth? That, too, was a lie. If it weren't, our TV's would be flooded with examples of people saving the money they were promised to save. I haven't seen one yet who can claim the savings over their old plan AND without subsidy. Actually I haven't heard any saving $2,500 without regard to subsidy.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In the section where it dictates to Insurance companies what their policies must have and have not.
     
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    Obama is a flat out liar. So is everyone propping him up.
     
  14. FearandLoathing

    FearandLoathing Well-Known Member

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    No respite from straw men is there..


    Please show where the ACA allows people to keep their plans as in "if you like your plan, you WILL have it. Period" as Barrack Obama promised 29 times.

    Deal with that instead of trying to sidetrack the debate
     
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    And of course no link supplied
     
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    I really don't think he's capable of feeling any humiliation and do narcissistic people really give any tho't or concern about setting good, moral examples for their children? No, they don't.........

    He thinks by suddenly changing "period" to "if" will work for him and there's enuf Obama supporters who'll accept this lie also.......
     
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    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    Is that like the example of the woman in California that lost her coverage because of the ACA - The reality was her insurance company is withdrawing from the market in that state, but seems well capable of continuing to offer coverage in 14 other states. Thats called capitalism
     
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    My 65 year old brother called today. He is in a rage that his insurance went to 5 K a month and he has to have pregnancy insurance. He can easily afford it but God knows .. he turned the air blue.
     
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    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    And of course you will be able to point me to that particular section of the legislation
     
  20. FearandLoathing

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    That's king of an insult to straw actually. Straw has a use in society.

    And yeah, nice call there, where IS the average $2500 savings...since the three years in the panning roll out disaster the average increase is $3,700...I guess we add that $6,700 as yet another lie.

    Oh, but where in the legislation does it "Say" there will be a $2500 saving.,...and on it goes.

    OBAMA SAID IT. IT DID NOT HAPPEN. THAT IS A LIE

    get over it
     
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    Humiliating?

    Barack Obama is a raging sociopath. He incessantly insults the intelligence of the American people with his serial dishonesty. Clearly, the man has no shame, whatsoever...

    How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags that could save you from being swept under the influence of a charismatic nut job
    http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html#ixzz2jna4g7Hb
     
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    FearandLoathing Well-Known Member

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    Did she or did she not "lose" he coverage?

    Did or did not the president say 29 times that would NOT happen.

    The woman is only one of 17 million facing this situation....is that still a conspiracy?
     
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    Here ya go, I'll submit on behalf of Talon
    Source: http://www.nola.com/health/index.ssf/2013/11/80000_louisiana_health_insuran.html

    So any guy who had a plan should have it cancelled for the simple fact it won't offer maternity and newborn care. And of course all the single people with no plans or ability to have children didn't previously need pediatric services for dental and vision so cancel all those.

    See, those are the "substandard" plans...the ones who bought just what they needed without senseless add-ons.
     
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    For his kids....

    Look anyone who could even say that with a straight face has no soul, let alone conscience.....
     
  25. FearandLoathing

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    Its a conspiracy....the 80,000 people cited are Obama haters...


    Besides, if one person needs maternity care, EVERYONE MUST HAVE IT so that one can afford it.

    You just don't get it..

    and its not a lie because he said it. Those tapes are lies

    and the aliens arrived this morning. Everything will be fine. Hillary will fix it
     

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