More Obamacare TRUTH

Wrong again. The discussion is about evaluating one cost against another cost. Nobody said cost is of no consequence.

 

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/01/15/3611905/obamacare-medical-bills-commonwealth/


Under Obamacare, Fewer Americans Are Struggling To Pay Their Medical Bills


For the first time in a decade, the number of people struggling to pay their medical bills has started to decline, according to a new survey released on Thursday by the Commonwealth Fund. The researchers attributed the historic drop to the number of people gaining insurance under the health care reform law.
Between 2012 and 2014 — as Obamacare’s main coverage expansion took effect — the Commonwealth researchers found that the number of people who had issues paying for health treatment dropped from 41 percent to 35 percent. Over the same time period, the people who skipped out on health services because they couldn’t afford them declined from 43 percent to 36 percent:

In a press release, the researchers described the declines as “remarkable.” This marks the first time since 2005, when Commonwealth started surveying people on these questions, that the number of Americans struggling to afford medical care hasn’t increased.
“Health insurance really provides people with a financial means to get care,” Sara Collins, a vice president at the Commonwealth Fund and one of the people who worked on the study, told the New York Times. “We don’t know yet that the law is improving people’s health, but this is a first indication that people are affording care that they weren’t able to get in the past.”
Commonwealth’s findings, which also documented a drop in the number of Americans going without insurance, track closely with other surveys that have reported declines in the uninsured rate under Obamacare. The number of Americans without health care was reduced by about 25 percent last year, which means that between eight million and eleven million people have gained coverage.
The high cost of health care remains an issue for millions of Americans; according to Commonwealth, there are still about 66 million adults who reported skipping out on care last year because they couldn’t afford it. And previous studies from the organization have documented a trend in employers pushing more health costs onto their workers, leaving some Americans struggling to pay their deductibles and co-pays. Medical debt is one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in the United States.
Still, the new report provides significant evidence that the Affordable Care Act is taking steps to tackle the problem. As the New York Times reports, “financial distress was a clear target of the health law,” and Commonwealth’s data suggests that Obamacare is moving toward this goal.
That progress could be undermined, however, depending on the outcome of a pending Supreme Court case against Obamacare. King v. Burwell seeks to prevent the government from providing tax credits in the 37 states with federally-run marketplaces, essentially cutting off millions of people from affordable coverage under the health law. Previous analyses have calculated that, if federally-run marketplaces were no longer permitted to extend tax credits, the cost of insurance in those states would increase by an average of 76 percent. In some states, monthly premiums could jump by nearly $400.





More lives saved every day thanks to ACA - Thank you Mr President!

 

It's pointless. I don't have a liberal source that you would accept. They are mostly Conservative sources.

 

My acceptance is not limited to Liberal sources so if you have a good Conservative source that will be acceptable. I just don't accept blogs that say the same thing with no backup data. It is all about the quality of the souce not whether It is liberal or Conservative.

 

ACA = patriotic success!

 

The Post Office did have its hands tied by Congress who banned cutting Saturday routine service, and won't let it offer other service Savings Accounts, Cell Phone Service or other things that could boost income OR cut pension funding to more realistic levels. So why blame them?

 

who blamed anyone? said it for a fact. Regardless of history, it has and still is running in the red

 

Here is one:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/real-number-uninsured_525775.html#!

Even if it were 47 million, whcih it is not, Obamacare fails at what it is supposed to do:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/munir-moon/do-the-math-obamacare-won_b_4692510.html

 

Neither source has any relevance to your assertion that it would be cheaper for the government to buy insurance for all the uninsured than It was to impliment the ACA. Obviously you are unable to support your statement so you are trying to change the topic.

just admit you make things up with no factual basis and then move on. Or alternatively you can provide the hard numbers to prove that the cost of implementing the ACA over ten years exceeds 1.3 trillion Thatnwould be spent to buy insurance for all the uninsured over a ten year period.

 

Of course they would in some states because the initial setup did not use any statistics to provide the prices but were just guesses.

 

as of yet, HHS has still yet to provide definitive numbers. They were already caught padding the numbers by counting roll-overs as new enrollees. We know, approx. how much it cost to roll out (which was a dismal failure) but we yet to measure the payouts of ACA (not medicare) insurance. They have no transparency.... and so far, they still do not answer to the majority for these numbers, with demographics..............

 

It also has done nothing to quell the rise in healthcare costs themselves.

 

more signups!


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/16/1358282/-ACA-Signups-9-5-Million-Edition



I've adjusted my "final" call for tonight upwards a bit, to an even 9.50 million nationally, 7.10 million via HC.gov...

—The HHS Dept's next "weekly snapshot" should have around 7.10M QHPs via HC.gov thru 1/16.

Here's an eye-opener:

--Tennessee: Eyebrow-Raiser: Insurance Co. leaves ACA exchange due to demand being too HIGH!

...three state-level updates...

—Michigan: ACA Medicaid expansion reaches 509K...likely tapped out.

--Minnesota: 43.4K QHPs, 54.4K Medicaid/MNCare to date

--Massachusetts: Bingo! 93.2K QHPs confirmed; 179K Medicaid, Payment rate appears to be 88%+

The Massachusetts report is significant because it's the most comprehensive "But How Many Have PAID???" data points available for 2015 so far (Rhode Island and Vermont have also provided some payment data as well, but MA's total is nearly twice that of both of those states combined).

Officially they're at 72% paid, but 20% of the total enrollments are for February coverage, not January, so it's conceivable that as many as 91% of the January enrollments have been paid in full by now. My guess is that it's more along the lines of...88%

And finally, I'm very honored to have made Dan Diamond's roundup of "2014's Best Healthcare Journalism".





More lives and money saved every day thanks to ACA - thank you Mr Obama!

 

Sure it does. There were fewer uninsured before Obamacare was implemented, and there are still as many uninsured afterward. So, we are spending billions on what? Cancellation of millions of people's insurance policies, only to force them to buy ones they do not want?

Also, considering the costs of ramping up Obamacare, paying for it (subsidies), paying for the huge bureaucracy that was created to implement and oversee it, future advertising, and the yet unknowns in Obamacare, I think it will blow past 1.3 trillion in 10 years with no problem.

 

insurance at gun point is not insurance.

 

OK, I give up. Very hard to debate with someone who just makes things up.

 

Kind of like auto insurance. Of course you always have the choice not to drive, but that is your only other option.

 

The ACA is largely unpopular the simple solution would have been to build around Medicaid the government taxing including payroll a small amount, add in co-pays based on income and have the Federal Government fund everyone not on it Traditionally (you could streamline it for the disabled and others to get on in States) and make that the national default coverage if your not otherwise insured. With this increase payout rates to providers and incorporate cost containment measures and rationing keeping it a good basic system. The if your a pauper or wealthy your covered by this system. It would have ended the major issue of the uninsured and would cost nothing out of pocket unless used then you would pay what would be sensible for your income level. HMO like plans could be done eliminating co-pays for premiums as an option if people chose that.

At least if States didn't have to foot the bill largely then they would not object I would think and if they did it would be hard to argue a difficulty to the States to the courts which the ACA version was in the long run.

 

and with Bam Bam's plan' I could face prison time, ultimately, should I choose not to buy at all. No choice=no freedom. But again, why should I pay for your ]sic] insurance?

 

So your solution would be for the federal government to fund and basically take over the entire healthcare system instead of relying on private enterprise. And you actually think that would be more popular than Obamacare.

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Just like driving without insurance.

 

dodge...why should I pay for YOUR health insurance?
BTW,I pay for my health insurance on my own. I take no subsidies. I also pay for my own auto insurance. Not because the government orders me to do so, but because there are idiots out there who can't drive. No tickets, no infractions, no record. I had auto insurance before the state mandated it..........just like my health insurance.

 

if so, then let's stop subsidizing Fortune 500 companies medical costs as well as those of Israel

 

Hey, bud, I'm all in favor of cutting off ALL foreign aid. We have enough problems here at home. We need to make sure there are no starving children here. Just think of how many people that money could help.
And this is not the first time you've used that pitiful argument.
"...but but but......"

 

You don't pay for anything for me! Chalk that silly respective line in the trash.

 

sure, what ever you say.........