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Penrod · Feb 12, 2017

Ive seen many of these stories posted here

16 Fake News Stories Reporters Have Run Since Trump Won
Journalists, media types, reporters, you have two choices: you can fix these problems, or you can watch your profession go down in flames.
Daniel Payne
By Daniel Payne
February 6, 2017

Since at least Donald Trumps election, our media have been in the grip of an astonishing, self-inflicted crisis. Despite Trumps constant railing against the American press, there is no greater enemy of the American media than the American media. They did this to themselves.

We are in the midst of an epidemic of fake news. There is no better word to describe it than epidemic, insofar as it fits the epidemiological model from the Centers for Disease Control: this phenomenon occurs when an agent and susceptible hosts are present in adequate numbers, and the agent can be effectively conveyed from a source to the susceptible hosts.

The agent in this case is hysteria over Trumps presidency, and the susceptible hosts are a slipshod, reckless, and breathtakingly gullible media class that spread the hysteria around likewell, like a virus.

It is difficult to adequately sum up the breadth of this epidemic, chiefly because it keeps growing: day after day, even hour after hour, the media continue to broadcast, spread, promulgate, publicize, and promote fake news on an industrial scale. It has become a regular part of our news cycle, not distinct from or extraneous to it but a part of it, embedded within the news apparatus as a spoke is embedded in a bicycle wheel.

Whenever you turn on a news station, visit a news website, or check in on a journalist or media personality on Twitter or Facebook, there is an excellent chance you will be exposed to fake news. It is rapidly becoming an accepted part of the way the American media are run.

How we will get out of this is anyones guess. We might not get out of it, not so long as Trump is president of these United States. We may be up for fourmaybe eight!long years of authentic fake news media hysteria. It is worth cataloging at least a small sampling of the hysteria so far. Only when we fully assess the extent of the medias collapse into ignominious ineptitude can we truly begin to reckon with it.

Since Trumps election, heres just a small sampling of fake news that our media and our journalist class have propagated

November 22: The Tri-State Election Hacking Conspiracy Theory

On November 22, Gabriel Sherman posted a bombshell report at New York Magazine claiming that a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers were demanding a recount in three separate states because of persuasive evidence that [the election] results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The evidence? Apparently, in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots.

The story went stratospherically viral. It was shared more than 145,000 times on Facebook alone. Sherman shared it on his Twitter feed several times, and people retweeted his links to the story nearly 9,000 times. Politicos Eric Geller shared the story on Twitter as well. His tweet was retweeted just under 8,000 times. Dustin Volz from Reuters shared the link; he was retweeted nearly 2,000 times. MSNBCs Joy Reid shared the story and was retweeted more than 4,000 times. New York Times opinion columnist Paul Krugman also shared the story and was retweeted about 1,600 times.

It wasnt until the next day, November 23, that someone threw a little water on the fire. At FiveThirtyEight, Nate Silver explained that it was demographics, not hacking that explained the curious voting numbers. Anyone making allegations of a possible massive electoral hack should provide proof, he wrote, and we cant find any. Additionally, Silver pointed out that the New York Magazine article had misrepresented the argument of one of the computer scientists in question.

At that point, however, the damage had already been done: Sherman, along with his credulous tweeters and retweeters, had done a great deal to delegitimize the election results. Nobody was even listening to Silver, anyway: his post was shared a mere 380 times on Facebook, or about one-quarter of 1 percent as much as Shermans. This is how fake news works: the fake story always goes viral, while nobody reads or even hears about the correction.
December 1: The 27-Cent Foreclosure

At Politico on December 1, Lorraine Woellert published a shocking essay claiming that Trumps pick for secretary of the Treasury, Steve Mnuchin, had overseen a company that foreclosed on a 90-year-old woman after a 27-cent payment error. According to Woellert: After confusion over insurance coverage, a OneWest subsidiary sent [Ossie] Lofton a bill for $423.30. She sent a check for $423. The bank sent another bill, for 30 cents. Lofton, 90, sent a check for three cents. In November 2014, the bank foreclosed.

The story received widespread coverage, being shared nearly 17,000 times on Facebook. The New York Timess Steven Rattner shared it on Twitter (1,300 retweets), as did NBC Newss Brad Jaffy (1,200 retweets), the APs David Beard (1,900 retweets) and many others.

The problem? The central scandalous claims of Woellerts article were simply untrue. As the Competitive Enterprise Institutes Ted Frank pointed out, the woman in question was never foreclosed on, and never lost her home. Moreover, It wasnt Mnuchins bank that brought the suit.

Politico eventually corrected these serious and glaring errors. But the damage was done: the story had been repeated by numerous media outlets including Huffington Post (shared 25,000 times on Facebook), the New York Post, Vanity Fair, and many others.
January 20: Nancy Sinatras Complaints about the Inaugural Ball

On the day of Trumps inauguration, CNN claimed Nancy Sinatra was not happy with the fact that the president and first ladys inaugural dance would be to the tune of Frank Sinatras My Way. The problem? Nancy Sinatra had never said any such thing. CNN later updated the article without explaining the mistake they had made.
January 20: The Nonexistent Climate Change Website Purge

Also on the day of the inauguration, New York Times writer Coral Davenport published an article on the Timess website whose headline claimed that the Trump administration had purged any climate change references from the White House website. Within the article, Davenport acknowledged that the purge (or what she also called online deletions) was not unexpected but rather part of a routine turnover of digital authority between administrations.

To call this action a purge was thus at the height of intellectual dishonesty: Davenport was styling the whole thing as a kind of digital book-burn rather than a routine part of American government. But of course that was almost surely the point. The inflammatory headline was probably the only thing that most people read of the article, doubtlessly leading many readers (the article was shared nearly 50,000 times on Facebook) to believe something that simply wasnt true.
January 20: The Great MLK Jr. Bust Controversy

On January 20, Time reporter Zeke Miller wrote that a bust of Martin Luther King Jr. had been removed from the White House. This caused a flurry of controversy on social media until Miller issued a correction. As Time put it, Miller had apparently not even asked anyone in the White House if the bust had been removed. He simply assumed it had been because he had looked for it and had not seen it.
January 20: Betsy DeVos, Grizzly Fighter

During her confirmation hearing, education secretary nominee Betsy DeVos was asked whether schools should be able to have guns on their campuses. As NBC News reported, DeVos felt it was best left to locales and states to decide. She pointed out that one school in Wyoming had a fence around it to protect the students from wildlife. I would imagine, she said, that theres probably a gun in the school to protect from potential grizzlies.

This was an utterly noncontroversial stance to take. DeVos was simply pointing out that different states and localities have different needs, and attempting to mandate a nationwide one-size-fits-all policy for every American school is imprudent.

How did the media run with it? By lying through their teeth. Betsy DeVos Says Guns Should Be Allowed in Schools. They Might Be Needed to Shoot Grizzlies (Slate). Betsy DeVos: Schools May Need Guns to Fight Off Bears (The Daily Beast). Citing grizzlies, education nominee says states should determine school gun policies (CNN). Betsy DeVos says guns in schools may be necessary to protect students from grizzly bears (ThinkProgress.) Betsy DeVos says guns shouldnt be banned in schools because grizzly bears (Vox). Betsy DeVos tells Senate hearing she supports guns in schools because of grizzly bears (The Week). Trumps Education Pick Cites Potential Grizzlies As A Reason To Have Guns In Schools (BuzzFeed).

The intellectual dishonesty at play here is hard to overstate. DeVos never said or even intimated that every American school or even very many of them might need to shoot bears. She merely used one school as an example of the necessity of federalism and as-local-as-possible control of the education system.

Rather than report accurately on her stance, these media outlets created a fake news event to smear a reasonable womans perfectly reasonable opinion.
January 26: The Resignations At the State Department

On January 26, the Washington Posts Josh Rogin published what seemed to be a bombshell report declaring that the State Departments entire senior management team just resigned. This resignation, according to Rogin, was part of an ongoing mass exodus of senior Foreign Service officers who dont want to stick around for the Trump era. These resignations happened suddenly and unexpectedly. He styled it as a shocking shake-up of administrative protocol in the State Department, a kind of ad-hoc protest of the Trump administration.

The story immediately went sky-high viral. It was shared nearly 60,000 times on Facebook. Rogin himself tweeted the story out and was retweeted a staggering 11,000 times. Washington Post columnist Anne Applebaum had it retweeted nearly 2,000 times; journalists and writers from Wired, The Guardian, the Washington Post, Bloomberg, ABC, Foreign Policy, and other publications tweeted the story out in shock.

There was just one problem: the story was more a load of bunk. As Vox pointed out, the headline of the piece was highly misleading: the word management strongly implied that all of Americas top diplomats were resigning, which was not the case. (The Post later changed the word management to administrative without noting the change, although it left the management language intact in the article itself).

More importantly, Mark Toner, the acting spokesman for the State Department, put out a press release noting that As is standard with every transition, the outgoing administration, in coordination with the incoming one, requested all politically appointed officers submit letters of resignation. According to CNN, the officials were actually asked to leave by the Trump administration rather than stay on for the customary transitional few months. The entire premise of Rogins article was essentially nonexistent.

As always, the correction received far less attention than the fake news itself: Voxs article, for instance, was shared around 9,500 times on Facebook, less than one-sixth the rate of Rogins piece. To this day, Rogins piece remains uncorrected regarding its faulty presumptions.
January 27: The Photoshopped Hands Affair

On January 27, Observer writer Dana Schwartz tweeted out a screenshot of Trump that, in her eyes, proved President Trump had photoshopped his hands bigger for a White House photograph. Her tweet immediately went viral, being shared upwards of 25,000 times. A similar tweet by Disney animator Joaquin Baldwin was shared nearly 9,000 times as well.

The conspiracy theory was eventually debunked, but not before it had been shared thousands upon thousands of times. Meanwhile, Schwartz tweeted that she did not know for sure whether or not the hands were shopped. Her correction tweet was shared a grand total of11 times.
January 29: The Reuters Account Hoax

Following the Quebec City mosque massacre, the Daily Beast published a story that purported to identify the two shooters who had perpetrated the crime. The problem? The storys source was a Reuters parody account on Twitter. Incredibly, nobody at the Daily Beast thought to check the source to any appreciable degree.
January 31: The White House-SCOTUS Twitter Mistake

Leading up to Trump announcing his first Supreme Court nomination, CNN Senior White House Correspondent Jeff Zeleny announced that the White House was setting up [the] Supreme Court announcement as a prime-time contest. He pointed to a pair of recently created identical Twitter pages for a theoretical justices Neil Gorsuch and Thomas Hardiman, the two likeliest nominees for the court vacancy.

Zelenys sneering tweetclearly meant to cast the Trump administration in an unflattering, circus-like lightwas shared more than 1,100 times on Twitter. About 30 minutes later, however, he tweeted: The Twitter accountswere not set up by the White House, Ive been told. As always, the admission of mistake was shared far less than the original fake news: Zelenys correction was retweeted a paltry 159 times.
January 31: The Big Travel Ban Lie

On January 31, a Fox affiliate station out of Detroit reported that A local business owner who flew to Iraq to bring his mother back home to the US for medical treatment said she was blocked from returning home under President Trumps ban on immigration and travel from seven predominately Muslim nations. He said that while she was waiting for approval to fly home, she died from an illness.

Like most other sensational news incidents, this one took off, big-time: it was shared countless times on Facebook, not just from the original article itself (123,000 shares) but via secondary reporting outlets such as the Huffington Post (nearly 9,000 shares). Credulous reporters and media personalities shared the story on Twitter to the tune of thousands and thousands of retweets, including: Christopher Hooks, Gideon Resnick, Daniel Dale, Sarah Silverman, Blake Hounshell, Brian Beutler, Garance Franke-Ruta, Keith Olbermann (he got 3,600 retweets on that one!), Matthew Yglesias, and Farhad Manjoo.

The story spread so far because it gratified all the biases of the liberal media elite: it proved that Trumps Muslim ban was an evil, racist Hitler-esque mother-killer of an executive order.

There was just one problem: it was a lie. The man had lied about when his mother died. The Fox affiliate hadnt bothered to do the necessary research to confirm or disprove the mans account. The news station quietly corrected the story after giving rise to such wild, industrial-scale hysteria.
February 1: POTUS Threatens to Invade Mexico

On February 1, Yahoo News published an Associated Press report about a phone call President Trump shared with Mexican president Enrique Pena Nieto. The report strongly implied that President Trump was considering send[ing] U.S. troops to curb Mexicos bad hombre problem, although it acknowledged that the Mexican government disagreed with that interpretation. The White House later re-affirmed that Trump did not have any plan to invade Mexico.

Nevertheless, Jon Passantino, the deputy news director of BuzzFeed, shared this story on Twitter with the exclamation WOW. He was retweeted 2,700 times. Jon Favreau, a former speechwriter for Barack Obama, also shared the story, declaring: Im sorry, did our president just threaten to invade Mexico today?? Favreau was retweeted more than 8,000 times.

Meanwhile, the Yahoo News AP post was shared more than 17,000 times on Facebook; Times post of the misleading report was shared more than 66,000 times; ABC News posted the story and it was shared more than 20,000 times. On Twitter, the reportwith the false implication that Trumps comment was seriouswas shared by media types such as ThinkProgresss Judd Legum, the BBCs Anthony Zurcher, Voxs Matt Yglesias, Politicos Shane Goldmacher, comedian Michael Ian Black, and many others.
February 2: Easing the Russian Sanctions

Last week, NBC News national correspondent Peter Alexander tweeted out the following: BREAKING: US Treasury Dept easing Obama admin sanctions to allow companies to do transactions with Russias FSB, successor org to KGB. His tweet immediately went viral, as it implied that the Trump administration was cozying up to Russia.

A short while later, Alexander posted another tweet: Source familiar [with] sanctions says its a technical fix, planned under Obama, to avoid unintended consequences of cybersanctions. As of this writing, Alexanders fake news tweet has approximately 6,500 retweets; his clarifying tweet has fewer than 250.

At CNBC, Jacob Pramuk styled the change this way: Trump administration modifies sanctions against Russian intelligence service. The article makes it clear that, per Alexanders source, the change was a technical fix that was planned under Obama. Nonetheless, the impetus was placed on the Trump adminsitration. CBS News wrote the story up in the same way. So did the New York Daily News.

In the end, unable to pin this (rather unremarkable) policy tweak on the Trump administration, the media have mostly moved on. As the Chicago Tribune put it, the whole affair was yet again an example of how in the hyperactive Age of Trump, something that initially appeared to be a major change in policy turned into a nothing-burger.
February 2: Renaming Black History Month

At the start of February, which is Black History Month in the United States, Trump proclaimed the month National African American History Month. Many outlets tried to spin the story in a bizarre way: TMZ claimed that a senior administration official said that Trump believed the term black to be outdated. Every U.S. president since 1976 has designated February as Black History Month, wrote TMZ. BET wrote the same thing.

The problem? Its just not true. President Obama, for example, declared February National African American History Month as well. TMZ quickly updated their piece to fix their embarrassing error.
February 2: The House of Representatives Gun Control Measures

On February 2, the Associated Press touched off a political and media firestorm by tweeting: BREAKING: House votes to roll back Obama rule on background checks for gun ownership. The AP was retweeted a staggering 12,000 times.

The headlines that followed were legion: House votes to rescind Obama gun background check rule (Kyle Cheney, Politico); House GOP aims to scrap Obama rule on gun background checks (CNBC); House scraps background check regulation (Yahoo News); House rolls back Obama gun background check rule (CNN); House votes to roll back Obama rule on background checks for gun ownership (Washington Post).

Some headlines were more specific about the actual House vote but no less misleading; House votes to end rule that prevents people with mental illness from buying guns (the Independent); Congress ends background checks for some gun buyers with mental illness (the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette); House Votes to Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales to the Severely Mentally Ill (NPR).

The hysteria was far-reaching and frenetic. As you might have guessed, all of it was baseless. The House was actually voting to repeal a narrowly tailored rule from the Obama era. This rule mandated that the names of certain individuals who receive Social Security Disability Insurance and Supplemental Security Income and who use a representative to help manage these benefits due to a mental impairment be forwarded to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

If that sounds confusing, it essentially means that if someone who receives SSDI or SSI needs a third party to manage these benefits due to some sort of mental handicap, thenunder the Obama rulethey may have been barred from purchasing a firearm. (It is thus incredibly misleading to suggest that the rule applied in some specific way to the severely mentally ill.)

As National Reviews Charlie Cooke pointed out, the Obama rule was opposed by the American Association of People With Disabilities; the ACLU; the Arc of the United States; the Autistic Self-Advocacy Network; the Consortium of Citizens With Disabilities; the National Coalition of Mental Health Recovery; and many, many other disability advocacy organizations and networks.

The media hysteria surrounding the repeal of this rulethe wildly misleading and deceitful headlines, the confused outrage over a vote that nobody understoodwas a public disservice.

As Cooke wrote: It is a rare day indeed on which the NRA, the GOP, the ACLU, and Americas mental health groups find themselves in agreement on a question of public policy, but when it happens it should at the very least prompt Americans to ask, Why? That so many mainstream outlets tried to cheat them of the opportunity does not bode well for the future.
Maybe Its Time to Stop Reading Fake News
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http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/

Is it any wonder Trump has a higher approval than the media ? You really dont know who or what to believe anymore and that goes for both sides

doombug · Feb 12, 2017

You can pretty much count on any left leaning media outlet to be nothing but fake news. CNN included.

Fisherguy · Feb 12, 2017

Yes, and in your alternative reality world, Breitbart and Faux News are staffed with dedicated journalists with no agenda. Bwa ha ha ha....

fizbo · Feb 12, 2017

Fisherguy said: ↑

Yes, and in your alternative reality world, Breitbart and Faux News are staffed with dedicated journalists with no agenda. Bwa ha ha ha....
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There is difference between honest reporting on stories the leftist media won't touch and the documented fake news outlined by Daniel Payne. You get brownie points for showing an understanding of the distinction.

zbr6 · Feb 12, 2017

Fisherguy said: ↑

Yes, and in your alternative reality world, Breitbart and Faux News are staffed with dedicated journalists with no agenda. Bwa ha ha ha....
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Funny.

When the subject of fake news comes up we can cite Leftist "news" sites and their lying all day long.

But all the Lefties can do is say "hur hur Faux news".

vman12 · Feb 12, 2017

Penrod said: ↑

Ive seen many of these stories posted here

http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/

Is it any wonder Trump has a higher approval than the media ? You really dont know who or what to believe anymore and that goes for both sides
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Nice summation.

TDS is definitely off the charts, and a lot of people here fell for a number of the things above, like the "OMG EVERYONE IS RESIGNING AT THE STATE DPT CUZ THEY HATE TRUMP".

It is laughable what our media has become.

Dispondent · Feb 16, 2017

doombug said: ↑

You can pretty much count on any left leaning media outlet to be nothing but fake news. CNN included.
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Currently CNN is leading the pack. They have probably had the worst meltdown after Hillary's defeat. They don't even try to pretend they are anything but lefty shills now...

usfan · Feb 16, 2017

Dispondent said: ↑

Currently CNN is leading the pack. They have probably had the worst meltdown after Hillary's defeat. They don't even try to pretend they are anything but lefty shills now...
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I used to think msnbc, cbs, & abc were worse.. not anymore. They are all left wing propagandists,without a pretense of balance or truth anymore. All they offer is spin, lies, & propaganda. And, the sad part, is that it does fool people. There are low information voters & thoughtless citizens who still believe that what they read in the paper, or see on the news, is important, & it shapes their political outlook. the media revolution has not finished.. we have not gotten to the guillotine stage, yet.

Dispondent · Feb 16, 2017

usfan said: ↑

I used to think msnbc, cbs, & abc were worse.. not anymore. They are all left wing propagandists,without a pretense of balance or truth anymore. All they offer is spin, lies, & propaganda. And, the sad part, is that it does fool people. There are low information voters & thoughtless citizens who still believe that what they read in the paper, or see on the news, is important, & it shapes their political outlook. the media revolution has not finished.. we have not gotten to the guillotine stage, yet.
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I have found CBS to be the least of the evils, while left leaning they appear to be making small inroads towards moderation. While there may be a lot of low information voters, the election results show that the media had far less impact than expected, at least by Hillary and her supporters. Trump has Twitter and he's keeping his promises, even the worst lefty shill media outlets can't stop that...

HB Surfer · Feb 16, 2017

The press is so frantic and out of touch. This is pure comedy gold. I was at the gym while this press conference was going on. People were laughing their asses off at the reporters. Trump's approval is now at 55%. The media is sinking further and further and they will just throw another tantrum.

Ericb760 · Feb 16, 2017

usfan said: ↑

I used to think Fox, Brietbart, & WND were worse.. not anymore. They are all right wing propagandists,without a pretense of balance or truth anymore. All they offer is spin, lies, & propaganda. And, the sad part, is that it does fool people. There are low information voters & thoughtless citizens who still believe that what they read in the paper, or see on the news, is important, & it shapes their political outlook. the media revolution has not finished.. we have not gotten to the guillotine stage, yet.
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It works both ways whether you admit or not...

AtsamattaU · Feb 16, 2017

I haven't even heard of most of these stories, which leads me to believe that part of the "fake news" is your own claim that mainstream media is running around reporting this nonsense. (Note: Vox, Slate, Facebook shares do not count as mainstream media.)

As for the stories I have heard, your criticism isn't that they're "fake," but only that they're exaggerated or sensationalized kind of like what you did with this thread because you want to get people's attention.

guavaball · Feb 16, 2017

Fisherguy said: ↑

Yes, and in your alternative reality world, Breitbart and Faux News are staffed with dedicated journalists with no agenda. Bwa ha ha ha....
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Translation: I can't argue against those 18 examples.

guavaball · Feb 16, 2017

AtsamattaU said: ↑

I haven't even heard of most of these stories, which leads me to believe that part of the "fake news" is your own claim that mainstream media is running around reporting this nonsense. (Note: Vox, Slate, Facebook shares do not count as mainstream media.)

As for the stories I have heard, your criticism isn't that they're "fake," but only that they're exaggerated or sensationalized… kind of like what you did with this thread because you want to get people's attention.
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So you can't disprove any of them. We got that.

usfan · Feb 16, 2017

Ericb760 said: ↑

It works both ways whether you admit or not...
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I thought it was against forum policy to quote someone after altering their posts.. it is certainly bad netiquette. If you have something to say, say it in your own words, not distortions of mine.

There are clear, multiple, blatant 'fake news' reports from the ones i mentioned, & those in this thread. You are merely trying to give the argument, 'But everybody does it!' to try to deflect from those who actually do.

and no, it does not work both ways. Lies & propaganda have been exposed constantly from the deceptive left. It is part of their MO. Conservatives have a concept of Due Process, internalized Law, & Truth as a goal or concept. Progressive leftists do not. Accusation is enough, no due process needed. Law is relative, & is not internalized, hence the ability of leftists to destroy property, attack those they disagree with, & promote violence & hatred. Truth has no meaning.. it is relative, useful only for persuasion purposes.. spin & propaganda. THAT is the heritage of the progressive, marxist left, & the core differences between them & the American constitutionalists.

They do not have the same ideology, the same practices, the same motives, or the same beliefs. They are diametrically opposed, & are polar opposites in worldviews, practice, & goals.

Ericb760 · Feb 16, 2017

usfan said: ↑

I thought it was against forum policy to quote someone after altering their posts.. it is certainly bad netiquette. If you have something to say, say it in your own words, not distortions of mine.

There are clear, multiple, blatant 'fake news' reports from the ones i mentioned, & those in this thread. You are merely trying to give the argument, 'But everybody does it!' to try to deflect from those who actually do.

and no, it does not work both ways. Lies & propaganda have been exposed constantly from the deceptive left. It is part of their MO. Conservatives have a concept of Due Process, internalized Law, & Truth as a goal or concept. Progressive leftists do not. Accusation is enough, no due process needed. Law is relative, & is not internalized, hence the ability of leftists to destroy property, attack those they disagree with, & promote violence & hatred. Truth has no meaning.. it is relative, useful only for persuasion purposes.. spin & propaganda. THAT is the heritage of the progressive, marxist left, & the core differences between them & the American constitutionalists.

They do not have the same ideology, the same practices, the same motives, or the same beliefs. They are diametrically opposed, & are polar opposites in worldviews, practice, & goals.
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I highlighted the text that I changed as evidence that I changed it.

And, despite your bloviating, there are dozens and dozens of "fake news" outlets hawking the conservative viewpoint. Luckily, they get taken down before they can do much damage. But, those who buy what they're peddling, will quickly disseminate these fake news stories on Facebook, Twitter, etc.

YOU can pretend that this isn't happening, but that doesn't make it any less true.

usfan · Feb 16, 2017

Giftedone · Feb 16, 2017

zbr6 said: ↑

Funny.

When the subject of fake news comes up we can cite Leftist "news" sites and their lying all day long.

But all the Lefties can do is say "hur hur Faux news".
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Did you have an example of mainstream right wing news that is not fake ?

Greataxe · Feb 17, 2017

We get USA Today with our local newspaper.

The editors there are no better than CNN. Absolute bias. 80% anti-Trump in every issue.

And speaking of diversity, not a single trustworthy Christian controlling anything at the paper. All of them Leftists.

Homer J Thompson · Feb 17, 2017

Can one of the libs here provide proof of Fox news fake news stories?

I am curious to see them.

Fisherguy · Feb 17, 2017

Look up the Faux News video from Madison, WI during the (violent) demonstrations against Gov. Scott Walker. In January, with palm trees in the background. Whoops, turns out it was old footage from San Diego. My son was there in Madison that day, and there was much ridicule of Faux News next day, when they brought fake palm trees to wave at the TV crew. They should have burned the Faux News truck for spreading rightwing propaganda. Because hey, that's what Faux does.

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