Moscow - US Crosses Line, Igniting War In Ukraine

So Moscow came to its senses, and realizes our politicians have no common sense. Well it's about time! Washington is now supplying the Nazi battalions in Ukraine with lethal weapons. Well I guess it's one way to keep the embattled Poroshenko in power. I guess the logic is, he's too filthy rich to be gotten rid of, so let's give the Nazis what they want, that way he will have their support.

Now all Kiev needs, is to cause a provocation and have the Donbas Republics shoot back and kill the American instructors. That will give Washington an excuse to bomb the Republics and bring Russia into the war. I know Russia is supplying Crimea with more of its S-400 defenses as well as Vladisvostok which neighbors N. Korea. I guess now it will supply the Donbas Republics with them as well.

Keep it up neo cons and the rest of you as well. Instead of adapting to the new situation in the world, and the diminishing of American power and dollar, you decided to destroy the world instead. Brilliant!

The intention by Washington to provide lethal arms to Ukraine ‘crosses a line’ and pushes Kiev towards bloodshed, a senior Russian diplomat said, accusing the US of playing the role of warmonger in the Ukrainian conflict.

The move by the US government is an escalation compared to the previous practice of providing weapons to Kiev through contracts with American arms producers, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said in a statement. “In a sense, the US has crossed a line.”

The Russian diplomat added that Washington can no longer claim the role of mediator in the Ukrainian conflict, because in fact it’s an “accomplice in igniting a war.” He said Moscow believes there is no use in appealing to the common sense of American politicians, since many of them are currently “blinded by Russophobia and eagerly applaud the Ukrainian nationalist (Nazi) punitive battalions.”

https://www.rt.com/news/414054-us-lethal-arms-ukraine/​

 

So here comes the best part. On the same day that Washington announced it will supply Kiev with lethal killing machines, it suspended 68% of its aid to Ukraine for not protecting intellectual property rights. So while the Ukrainian people have the lowest standard of living in Europe because of Washington's coup, Washington is doing what it has always done, giving Ukraine arms for war.

If anyone paid attention over the years, they would have noticed that every loan by the IMF given to the people of Ukraine, and that they will have to pay back, had been either stolen by the Ukrainian junta in Kiev, or used to buy weapons. The money never went to relieve the financial burden on the Ukrainian people.

 

The CIA should get out and the USA should stay out of the Ukraine.

Definitely.

 

The low standard of living in Ukraine long precedes Maidan and is undoubtedly a large part of why people got pissed enough at the Russian puppet regime to toss them out violently like they did.

Now Ukraine needs our protection from the Russian bear. Certainly Ursa Major Pain in the Arse has so far refused to get out of Ukrainian territory and respect their established sovereign borders, so maybe it is time to get tough with her. Maybe just a little. I guess if Putin wants his new Cold War so badly, then so be it.

 

Ukraine is an independent country

Are they not allowed to defend themselves with US weapons?

 

Not at our door step. EU made clear it wont accept this escalation.

 

Won’t accept?

That sounds serious

Do you mean war?

 

No, we just do what we also did in Iran to neutralize your threats. Germany has the technology to easily take american weapon systems out.

When USA went more and more crazy in Iran, it was Germany that gave Iran the technology to hack american drones. You looked quite stupid when they landed one.

Germany wont allow an escalation in Ukarine.

 

So you will give or sell weapons to the russians?

 

We too operate the Javelin system. No need to sell the russians weapons when you can give the scource code.

Russia is worlds largest weapon producer. USA Nr. 2 and Germany Nr. 3. Russia doesnt need weapons. What it needs to to get this neutralized.

 

That sounds like war to me

I suspect you are more militant than most germans

but if there is any truth to your claim that germany is allied with iran then our countries may be headed for a third showdown

 

Interesting, no Trump-hating libs in this thread whining that Trump is Putin's puppet, no Trump hating libs in this thread praising Trump for standing up to Moscow and its aggression against independent Ukraine? Where are these libs, are their heads exploding?

That being said, well done Mr. President, what took you a year though? Oh, well, better late than never, your cowardly backstabbing predecessor failed to even move a finger to defend a democratic independent nation against the aggression of the Russian fascist junta.

 

North Korea is a sovereign country and has the right to defend itself from USA.

 

Thats a strawnan

The US is not threatening north korea

 

You mean the full force of our CIA and the NGOs they employ, had nothing to do with what happened in Ukraine? That the US wanting nato troops in Ukraine, as well as western bankers being able to get their hands on that bread basket farmland, and other assets, had nothing to do with what happened in Ukraine? Of course their old gov't were friendly towards russia, and russia of course does not want to be surrounded by nato forces nor does russia think the Ukraine being sold off to pay for loans they cannot pay back, going into the future is in anyone's interests but western globalists.

There is much more to what happened in ukraine than just some of the people being pissed off at a russian puppet. Being on good terms with russia does not make the old gov't a puppet. We didn't like the old gov't, and so we helped with the coup, once again meddling in the affairs of other nations, even as we accuse russia of doing it! lol. Russia has a natural interest of what happens around her, just as we have interests in what happens around us. But we should have no interests in Ukraine, and yet obviously we do. Of course, we want to isolate russia, and if that creates death and suffering, then we live for things like that. Our success depends upon how many we can starve to death or kill, in order to serve western capitalist interests.

Everyone knows what this is really about. Or should. American empire and hegemony. You can find the plans for it in PNAC and writings from Wolfawitz and other neocons. So stop trying to pretend it isn't about this empire and hegemony. Yet neither of these things are a benefit or in the self interests of americans, unless you are an elite. That anyone might think it is in our interests only shows some problems with cognition and not understanding what our reality really is.

 

America has no desire for an empire

But putin does want to recreate the Soviet empire

 

North Korea is the problem of the US. Russia is profitable to trade and supply weapons to North Korea and spit on the United States.

 

Nor did Obama protest when Russian invaded Crimea. And earlier he removed missile defense from eastern Europe. Yet goofy leftists seem to believe it is Trump who is in 'collusion' with the Russians. Madness!

 

Never eat at a restaurant called Mom's, never play poker with a guy called "Doc', and never bet on Germany in a world war.

 

I suspect sobo is considered a little odd even in germany

He says crazy things such as claiming germany is the master of europe

But it makes sense

The post war germans were a defeated and humiliated generation

But now they are feeling powerful and want to br respected as a world power again

 

Nice try. We prevent war. We are simply sick of your spreading of chaos. Your international renomee and ability to project power has sunken so much, that we were able in the last years to prevent your worst actions. In Egypt we destroyed your revolution and installed a new dictator who created stability there. In Syria it was Germany that blocked delivery of heavy weapons to the so called "rebels". that way Assad could stay in power until he started winning back his country and if you believe we allow you to trigger a war in europe you are mistaken.

 

Yes, thanks to clinton, bush and obama America is weaker than we were

Which in my opinion make the world less stable and less safe because it encourages bad actors like the russians and your friends in iran to cause trouble

And it may be filing the germans with illusions of grandeur also

 

Ukraine is a proxy-war between NATO and Russia.

has been since day 1.

 

Wait a sec here....I though Moscow wasn't in the Ukraine. Why do they care about anti-tank weapons again?

 

So Germans want to spark WW3. And without the US to save them. Or is this like 1939 again and the Nazis cozying up to the Soviets.