Most Americans (71%) Oppose Transgender Agenda

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  1. Daniel Light

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    If all it took was a public poll to put an end to discussions, then Trump wouldn't be allowed to run for President again ....

    But ... But ... But ... Hunter!

    If you're going to use national polling in argument, please be consistent.
     
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    By "plenty", you mean .0001% of all teachers, right? Always amazes me how little a percentage of the whole "plenty" actually is to some people.
    Try again.
     
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    Drag is a performance art that has existed for hundreds of years. Nothing to do with trans
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would have no idea what you deserve as I do not know you.
     
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    We aren’t prudes over here, we allow nudity starting at 9 pm.

    Please explain exactly why drag shows are going to cause little children being openly raped on the streets.
     
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    Strange way of returning a nicety.

    Here are some alternatives.
    • "take care"
    • "enjoy your day"
    • "have a great day"
    • "all the best"
    • "have a wonderful day"
    • "have a fantastic day"
    • "have a splendid day"
    • "have a delightful day"
    • "have a blessed day"
     
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    It is not up to parents to make choices to be abusive to children. Exposing children to adult only materials IMHO is abusive and not appropriate. More below.

    Nude is not lewd. I wouldn't describe what that guy did on TV as merely nude. It was lewd and inappropriate for television.

    But Drag Queen story hour is about undoing standards, which I think will lead to all sorts of other forms of decline and barbarity.

    Why do you think societies move from ones in which incest and child rape are ubiquitous to ones in which they are grave taboos? I would write that it is due to evolving standards. That includes proper, gender appropriate dress and conduct in public and that would not include Drag Queens. In a private adults only environment? I understand they can be quite amusing.

    I'd also write that I would include Drag Queens in a group that gets a sexual charge out of appearing as women. I.E. Tom Hanks dressed as a woman in the show Bosom Buddies back in the 1980s. That was not sexual but done in a sitcom.

    This guy? He has problems, should not be around children, and with those horns? I'm pretty sure he's trying to tell you something. You should listen.
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    It was a repectful way to agree to disagree.

    Some people just can't accept diversity and tolerance.
     
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    Were you exposed to LGBTQ when you were in kindergarten?

    Lots of teenagers are being convinced they are trans.
     
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    In other words you are trying to deflect discussion about a very real problem.
    D
     
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    "Family friendly"

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    I am not sure how that works if some nutter on live-stream TV all of a sudden rips off his clothes and starts dancing around. If a parent isn’t aware it’s going to happen, how is it abusive to expose it to them? And seriously, is seeing a grown man acting like a total idiot with his penis flopping around going to harm a child. I doubt it unless a parent has gone as far to instil such a fear of the human body that it traumatizes them. If my daughter had seen this I wouldn’t have made a big deal of it. I would have laughed and said ‘What an idiot’ and then I would have explained her that it is highly inappropriate to remove one’s clothes in public.

    He got naked. He was sans clothing — what else can you call it. It’s not the end of the world. It’s the human body. Maybe, because I work in the medical profession and have seen hundreds of naked bodies, I don’t react to them negatively. What this man did was inappropriate but it’s not like it happens repeatedly on TV. It’s a rare occurrence being used for outrage and to promote intolerance.

    Drag Queen story hour isn’t actually about undoing standards. For Pete’s sake stop reading the rhetoric of radicals and think about it for what it is. It is men wearing women’s clothing reading stories about differences to children. The stories have no sexual content. My mother is on the board of a library and they had a drag Queen story hour and she saw it. The stories were all appropriate and so were the drag queens. The children really enjoyed it. How is teaching children to accept the differences of others going to lead to all sorts of forms of decline and barbarity? Please do explain, what exactly is going to happen and how exactly this is being caused. And again, please explain how these things can lead to children being openly raped in the streets.


    How does does dressing as the opposite sex and conduct in public by transgenders and/or Drag Queens lead to incest and child rape?
    Explain your thoughts on this.

    You are providing examples, taken from the internet, that are extremely rare and not the norm.

    Why don’t you concentrate on people who are actually raping children and committing incest. It is not transgender person nor is it drag queens. Do you know how many cases of child abuse within families occur on a daily basis perpetrated by heterosexual men or women? Most children who get sexually abused know their abuser and that would be statistically three out of four— it is absolutely not some Drag Queen who reads in a library, nor is it some transgender who wears a butt monkey suit. Why don’t you get all bothered about date rape or human sexual trafficking? What about priests? What about scout leaders?

    Why don’t you stop scouring the internet to find stories that fit your narrative and deal with actual reality?

    FACT: most child sex offenders are heterosexual
    FACT: most child sex offenders are male
    FACT: most people who sexually abuse children appear completely normal and can’t be picked out a crowd.


    Do you know any Drag Queens and have you asked how they feel dressing up as a woman or are you just making statements that fit your narrative?


    What do you think the mans horns are trying to tell me? It’s a costume, why don’t you take a look at the book he is reading. Please answer all my questions, I have bolded them to make it easier. If you are going to make statements like the one’s in your post, then surely you can explain why.
     
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    Numbering to simplify:


    1) I couldn’t quantify how harmed a child would be by having a guy stick a dick up his ass. Just because I cannot quantify it doesn’t mean it is harmless. Why did that guy do that? Why is any of this happening? More on that below. But the more we fight this perversion, the less I think we’ll have to worry about some unsuspecting parent having an incident like this occur while he and his children are trying to innocently watch public television. As it is? The camera man did not even cut away to commercial. And what if the parent DID know it was going to happen and intentionally expose his children to something like this? That I would call that child abuse.

    2) We in the West today are different than, say, Ancient Greece. We have developed a society with standards. We may tug and prod at these standards but there is danger in going too far. The difference between Elvis shaking his hips on TV and Madonna masturbating on stage with a crucifix. Lose all standards and anything, including Ancient Greece, becomes possible. Right now, the public is telling you by an over-whelming majority, a line is being crossed. It has to stop.

    3) What about all of those other things? They’re illegal, causing outrage. Everyone agrees if a priest molests a child, he should go to jail. The difference I think is that priests have a public, socially honored position that comes with expectations. Don’t rape kids. Sooth the souls of your flock. Etc., not, we should end the priesthood. ITMT I have no problem with Drag Queens in adult only settings entertaining adults. I am a member of society. I get a say. And I say I have no use for them anywhere near children. Sure, they could teach kids that it is OK to cross dress. That someone that does so is different and we should appreciate that. I lam saying it is not. We have standards. Men are to dress and act in certain ways. If they don’t, they are engaged in anti-social behavior. It should be resisted. I don’t want kids growing into anti-social people.

    4) I can find links on the Internet that fit my narrative. I can find some that marginally disagree but mostly, on target (some argue it is a new gender identity unrelated to getting a sexual charge).

    5) That he despises our society and our social norms. He wants to be as outrageous and harmful as he possibly can be in public, around children, and get away with it. He wants the rest of us to be demoralized. He wants to show us he can be as absolutely profane as he likes and there’s nothing the rest of us can do about it as he sidles up to small children.

    Took this from the funny memes on this website.

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    Did the man who showed his penis on TV rape a child?

    Did butt monkey man rape a child?

    Do drag Queen rape children?

    If you are a white heterosexual male then you are much more of a danger to children.

    Don’t you think a line is crossed when minority groups of people are falsely accused of raping children, or falsely accused of grooming children when they are doing no such thing? What has to stop is bigotry and intolerance and applying a few small instances of inappropriate behaviour to whole groups.

    You still are avoiding my questions. I have no use for intolerant bigots.
    Maybe Drag Queens don’t get a sexual charge from dressing as a woman. And seriously if they do, it doesn’t make them a child abuser.

    So if somebody feels that way, does it mean he’s a child abuser, and he is one person. Somebody just drove a van through Nottingham and ran over and killed three people and injured three more. Does that make all van drivers murderers?

    Why don’t you answer my questions with some actual logical reasons for your beliefs.
     
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    1) I would write they are sexually assaulting them. I cannot help being my race and sex. A Drag Queen sure as hell can knock if off and dress appropriately in a Western society.
    2) I don't think the accusations false. I can think of no legit reason for their desire to be around children. I've been advised of some. I don't believe them.
    3) If they're getting a sexual charge out of it, then I'm writing, their presence, as presented, IS a sexual assault. And again, it can be avoided: dress appropriately. How you dress is a choice.

    We need to drive vans. Priests have an important place in our society. Bad things may occur because of their existence but we need them. Drag Queens? They can choose to just just knock it off and leave the kids alone. And that is a fact.
     
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    we see pictures with children with mardi gras beads... we know what that symbolizes.... guess that means all heterosexuals are bad...

    parents take their kids to hooters.. grooming?

    let's condemn it when we see it, not try to condemn all heterosexuals or homosexuals for the bad acts of some
     
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    What do you think this is about? The entire purpose of these pride events is sexuality. And we'll past it's shelf life.

    Go. Be gay. Persuit happiness, but enough with the flag the parades and the month long bullshit.
     
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    No we don't.
     
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    Tell it to a Priest's congregations. Tell a mom with 6 kids there's no need for a van. Heck, they can all walk like they're living in the 14th century.
    I have no problem telling a Drag Queen if he wants to be around kids, he needs to act like he lives in this society and dress appropriately.
     
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    Has nothing to do with priests.
     
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    it's about equal rights, they are celebrating their freedom, no longer have to be forced in the closet, those some still try

    but yes, dressing in drag is like heterosexuals dressing in bondage attire
     
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    look at the barely dressed male in leather domination outfit leashed to another barely dressed man in a domination outfit.

    sorry this is disgusting and deplorable.
     
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    Gay people have equal rights. They are now beyond coddled.
     
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    they did not always and some still trying to take it from them
     

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