MSNBC medical contributor tells Americans to start wearing masks again after uptick in COVID hospita

I meant what I said. I recommend against wearing respirators as well. COVID IS OVER. Time to let it go.

 

Its not over, but you don't have to wear anything you don't want to wear.

 

The pandemic is over. Covid is now endemic like the other corona viruses. The common cold hasn't gone away either. The pandemic and the war against it is over.

 

Ok, so Covid is not over. That's what I said.

 

OK sea lawyer. I know what you meant. You were wrong.

 

Only if you modify my argument, like you did, but whatever makes you happy broheem.

 

What I consider reprehensible is authorities claiming that masks protect those most vulnerable to the Covid virus from becoming infected.

 

There are some that do but they aren't the masks people actually wear. Since the "authorities" aren't specific then you should view it as a lie. In fact it makes sense to view everything government says as a lie until it has private sector corroboration.

 

The only study which showed masks that did prevent aerosols from entering the wearer's lungs were N-95 respirators actually glued onto the faces of the people used in the tests. The N-95 respirator works but there is leakage around the mask which defeats the purpose.

 

Yes. The N95 respirator tests 85% effective. There is no such thing as 100%. What people actually wear is less than 10% effective.

 

Unfortunately that's not what people are told. Months ago and thinking that masks would protect her (as the sign on the door of the clubhouse so stated) a member of a ukulele group that my wife belongs to requested that all participants in the weekly singalong meeting where masks because the member had some of the CDC defined preconditions which made her more at risk from Covid. Everyone did wear the masks (mostly surgical) and sang songs in close proximity for a couple of hours.

 

Have you forgotten 15 days to flatten the curve?

 

Masks are an engineering issue. Rated masks have been tested to standards. They knew the performance level of masks decades before 2020. They spent 2020 lying to the public about masks and their efficacy. Unrated masks (which were allowed) are a joke, and no one really knows their performance level. Our public officials eventually conceded that masks and shutdowns were generally ineffective, and caused more harm than good. Shutting down schools where the least at-risks people go (children) was stupid and damaging to children. Masks of all kinds were incorrectly donned, and provided minimal protection. Doctors treat disease, and unless they are research doctors are not mask experts. Don't kid yourself into believing their knowledge is infinite.

 

And even here, there are plenty of doctors out there who are more or less "pill pushers" rather than "healers".

 

There were many doctors and epidemiologists who publicly stated that masks did not prevent or protect and that the economic shutdowns and school closings were unnecessary and caused major economic damage. The Great Barrington Declaration summarizes this.

 

Huh? Our hospitals were overwhelmed in different parts of the country for more than a year. A lot of nurses and doctors quit because they were forced to care for people who wouldn't get vaccinated or limit their activities. "Flatten the curve" was the strategy to keep our hospitals open for folks with heart attacks, strokes, injuries, giving birth, etc.

 

Your sort of "thinking" made the pandemic last longer, kill more people, cost us more money in healthcare spending, and do more damage to the economy. But, of course, you had your rights.

Even if the individual is likely to get really ill if they catch covid?

Covid is not "over" for people particularly vulnerable.



https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/weekly-covid-deaths

One wonders why you would discourage vulnerable people from wearing respirators or getting vaccinated when these simple measures might save them from serious illness or death.

The unvaccinated die from covid in much larger numbers.

 

Over 90% of those who "died" from Covid died because they had one or more of the pre conditions listed by the CDC. And most of those who have "died" from Covid had been vaccinated and boosted.

 

Hmm, do we take a doctor recommendations if we have preexisting conditions that might make Covid a severe health risk or do we take the opinion of Random Guy on the Internet ... decisions, decisions ...

 

~ I wait for the CNN $aint Fauci interview when he states that nobody is ever safe, and we should always wear a mask — even while on the internet ! ""

" Never underestimate the dumbing-down of society. "

~ Or we can be like you, and get our advice from political websites.

 

Be sure to live in fear and get your next booster just as soon as it becomes available and stay glued to CNN for further updates about how scared you should be.

 

True. This is Rudy wearing a P100 respirator in 2009 after 9/11.

Surgical masks are not very effective. P100 respirators are.

Schools have had to deal with a lot of teachers walking away, so much so we have teacher shortages. A lot of older teachers retired rather than teach 30 kids in 900 sq. ft. I don't think there was ever a good solution, but trying to retain older teachers by having them teach students whose parents choose to keep them at home would have helped keep more older teachers. I don't think school district managers want to run hybrid systems. Why should they when parents don't have other options?

True.

Relevance?

 

Yes, the people who should be considering mitigation measures--respirators, vaccination and anti-viral therapies.

Because vulnerable people were more likely to be vaccinated and somewhat isolated (social distancing). They would have died in much larger numbers than they did without mitigation.

 

~ I wonder if India used masks and shot up on mRNA .. ?

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We take them from doctors if we have any sense at all. On the other hand we should view the opinions of government doctors with suspicion since they are infected with politics. My opinion isn't about health. It is about common sense and what practicing physicians and surgeons have told me.