Muslims believe Freedom of Speech is blasphemous... and will choke it where possible.

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  1. Onward James

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    Muslims on Muslims... and why do you think moderates and reformists fear speaking out?

    Even comedian Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean, Blackadder) is concerned with political correctness regarding Muslims, Islam, Mohammed and the Qur'an from what I gather. Restricted laws would cause —


    "a veneer of tolerance concealing a snake pit of unaired and unchallenged views."

    Publishers, such as Random House, fear zealous Muslims, therefore they refuse to publish works that criticize or misconstrue the prophet, the written words, and so forth. "Jewel of Medina" by Sherry Jones a historical romance novel about Mohammed's wife was rejected, likely for the safety of employees and people associated with distribution.

    People were threatened and murdered when Ayatollah Khomenei of Iran ordered Salman Rushdie's death because of his novel "Satanic Verses" which virtually started the bounties against blasphemy.

    "Throughout the Muslim world, Sunni, Shia, and Sufi Muslims may be persecuted for differing from the version of Islam promulgated by locally hegemonic religious authorities. Saudi Arabia represses Shiites, especially Ismailis. Iran represses Sunnis and Sufis. In Egypt, Shia leaders have been imprisoned and tortured."

    •In Afghanistan, Shia scholar Ali Mohaqeq Nasab, editor of Haqooq-i-Zen magazine, was imprisoned by the government for publishing “un-Islamic” articles that criticized stoning as a punishment for adultery.

    •Saudi democracy activists Ali al-Demaini, Abdullah al-Hamed, and Matruk al-Faleh were imprisoned for using “un-Islamic terminology,” such as “democracy” and “human rights,” when calling for a written constitution.

    •Saudi teacher Mohammed al-Harbi was sentenced to 40 months in jail and 750 lashes for “mocking religion” after discussing the Bible in class and making pro-Jewish remarks.

    •Egyptian Nobel prize winner in literature Naguib Mahfouz reluctantly abandoned his lifelong resistance to censorship and sought permission from the clerics of Al-Azhar University to publish his novel Children of Gebelawi, hitherto banned for blasphemy. Mahfouz subsequently lived under constant protection after being stabbed by a young Islamist, leaving him partly paralyzed.

    •After Mohammed Younas Shaikh, a member of Pakistan’s Human Rights Commission, raised questions about Pakistan’s policies in Kashmir, he was charged with having blasphemed in one of his classes.

    •In Bangladesh, Salahuddin Choudhury was imprisoned for hurting “religious feelings” by advocating peaceful relations with Israel.

    •In Iran, Ayatollah Boroujerdi was imprisoned for arguing that “political leadership by clergy” was contrary to Islam, and cleric Mohsen Kadivar was imprisoned for “publishing untruths and disturbing public minds” after writing Theories of the State in Shiite Jurisprudence, which questioned the legal basis of Ayatollah Khomeini’s view of government.

    The above is from the adaptation of a speech on Imprimis, a publication of Hillsdale College by Paul Marshall, Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute, and co-author of "Silenced: How Apostasy and Blasphmy Codes are Choking Freedom Worldwide".

    There are many more Muslims threatened by Muslims you might either read or listen to the speech by Paul Marshall.


    “Blasphemy and Free Speech” video - Paul Marshall
    http://kirbycenter.hillsdale.edu/page.aspx?pid=836

    Adaptatiion of Blasphemy and Free Speech from Imprimis
    http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2012&month=02

    The West Is Choked by Fear - Henryk M. Broder, Spiegel Online
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,669888,00.html
     
  2. Margot

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    You don't know any Muslims, James.
     
  3. Onward James

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    Because no one who knows Muslims or has lived in the Arab world is capable of such blind hatred as yourself.
     
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    The only hate speech comes out of your pen, your thinking and the way you retort...
    All of that is from your indoctrination I suppose... you also believe in 72 Virgins and Boys like Pearls in Muslim Paradise, I am practically sure. What about the video? I lived all my life with Arabs... what gives?

    The shocking video the Muslims don't want you to see !!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=oi7EKvpeiXw
     
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    I am not destroying ancient olive groves, bulldozing homes and smashing wells.........
     
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    We do what we want in our own realm, on our soil and our Land!!!
     
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    Ill-gotten possession - Stolen soil -STOLEN LAND.



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    The UK is a loser and on a decline... pretty soon they will also lose Scotland!
     
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    It is not your land. You are illegally occupying it according to every country in the entire world bar israel.
     
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    Except other Muslims, of course, viz. Syria today, Hamas vs. PLO... I could go on, but why bother.
     
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    This shows to what extend your knowledge on my country is lacking...

    This is the Land of the Jews, period! I am not one who is going to be on the defensive facing senseless vituperative statements.

    Put your facts on the table, facts that illustrate your quasi knowledge on my country
     
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    My knowledge is fine,it is your knowledge that is questioned and debunked everyday of the week on this forum. Israel is occupying Palestinian land in the West Bank and Gaza. Fact.
     
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    There is no Palestinian Land fella... this is Eretz Israel...

    DEBUNK THAT!!!
     
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    Well that is just too easy. Every country in the entire world says there is Palestinian land,just seems to be you on your own who thinks there is not.
     
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    Let's hope you're also not telling people they can't eat pork products, and firing them from their jobs when they do. Let's hope you're not telling people they can't speak out against Muslim terrorism, and firing them from their jobs when they do. Let's hope you're not denying people rides on public transportation because they have a dog (including guide dogs for the blind) or an alcoholic beverage (unopened).

    Lets hope you're not telling people Muslims were in eastern Canada in 889 AD and became chiefs in the Algonquin tribe (among many other historical lies), or endorsing school textbooks that do. Lets hope you're not blocking and disrupting traffic with mobs of Muslims praying in city streets (as well as illegally parking). Let's hope your also not telling talk show hosts what they may and may not say.

    Let's hope your not telling banks they must have accomodations for Sharia finance. Let's hope you're not supporting a ban on piggy banks or cartoons showing pigs. Let's hope you're not worshipping suicide bombers as heros. Let's hope your not telling film producers what they may or may not show on the screen.

    Let's hope you're not destroying the right of speakers in universities to speak freely. Let's hope you're not getting footwashing basins and prayer rooms installed in colleges, at the cost of thousands of dollars, when students' tuitions are going up. Let's hope you're not involved in the African slave trade (existing only in Muslim countries). Let's hope you're not advocating that men should beat their wives.

    Let's hope you're not killing innocent animals on Eid al Adha. Let's hope you're not advocating pedophilia, slavery, torture, or honor killings. Let's hope your not advocating that a woman's testimony in court, is worth only half that of a man, among numerous other examples of severe misogyny.

    And let's hope you're not going to the US government and telling them to amend the 1st amendment of free speech, to repress criticism of Islam. And let's hope you don't agree with the Muslim Brotherhood's vow to destroy America and Western civilization, as FBI declassified documents reveal.
     
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    Forget about the WORLD for a moment...
    You DEBUNK what I said and please reveal your knowledge here!!!!
     
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    These nazi threads are vey tedious. Couldn't we have a special section for zionist propaganda so that we could have sensible discussions elsewhere?
     
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    I have already debunked it. You just do not want to believe it but it is a fact that the whole world calls the west bank and Gaza Palestinian land. It is only you and zionist like you who live in a fantasy land who think different.
     
  20. Onward James

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    Seems as if many people of the anti-Israel, anti-Zionists, pro-Submission ilk from the UK (Scotland included) have given in and might eventually change the country name to Englandistan, Scotlandistan, or Walesistan.
     
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    We had a pork store for Westerners in Saudi Arabia.. Get over yourself.. You have never been anywhere.

    Eid al Adha is the equivalent of the Thanksgiving or Christmas or Easter dinner... the goose or turkey .. ham or lamb..

    You are getting more and more ridiculous... and so transparent.
     
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    Go back to Boozistan, soak, and stop drivelling!
     
  23. protectionist

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    Or Allahland.
     
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    The Muslim takes off the veil.
     
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    Here's 2 places where I have been (and you apparently weren't)

    1. Right next door (Tampa, Florida) to a family of Muslims who had an open pasture. They kept animals there, but only goats and sheep. The only time the animals were there though was during the days leading up to Eid al Adha. Then, after Eid al Adha, the animals were dead, and left to rot on the ground, with swarms of black vultures consuming their carcasses. "Thanksgiving" for vultures, and I have the videos to prove it. I only wish I could have recorded them in the act, and sent them to jail.

    2. I was right at home (in Tampa, Florida), when I read the story about Lina Morales for was fired from her job (80 miles from my home) for bringing a bacon, lettuce & tomato sandwich to work, and for previously bringing a frozen pizza with Canadian bacon and sausage on it.

    What does Saudi Arabia have to do with it ?
     

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