Must engage in heterosexual sex to receive College Scholarship- is that fair + just?

Imagine a scholarship program where how you have sex determines if you qualify or not. In todays' day and age are we not better than that? How can we be so exclusionary that we deny some people who have sex differently. I know that I would simply check off that I am heterosexual and make the scholarship people prove otherwise. Should homosexuals file suit against this?


whoops, I'm sorry, it's the other way around

http://www.pointfoundation.org/scholarships.html

Point recognizes that individuals may be socially marginalized or even abandoned by family, friends and society because of their sexual orientation, gender expression or gender identity. Yet these lives should not be further disadvantaged as they prepare for the future.

 

How is it fair that you don't give me a Christmas gift every year?

What's that, you say? Giving a gift is a private matter, and you have a right to set whatever terms you want on a gift?

Exactly.

 

interesting

so you would have no problem at all if scholarships clearly stated that you must be heterosexual in order to qualify?

 

http://www.justout.com/news/national-news/rotc-student-comes-out-loses-80000-scholarship/

http://www.gaylesbiantimes.com/?id=1942

 

Did I stutter? No, of course I wouldn't.

Here's what I said again. Explain where I lost you: Giving a gift is a private matter, and you have a right to set whatever terms you want on a gift.

 

then you, like I do not engage in double standards, kudos to you.

i await the frequenters to this section to see if they too would support denying homosexuals scholarships which demanded that applicants be heterosexual. or, would that be a shot against their civil rights?

 

then you, like I do not engage in double standards, kudos to you.

i await the frequenters to this section to see if they too would support denying homosexuals scholarships which demanded that applicants be heterosexual. or, would that be a shot against their civil rights?

 

how do you feel that being gay disqualified these people from scholarships?

 

Are you this unfamiliar with scholarships- and how they can be crafted to almost any inclusion or exclusion?

Do you know that I am disqualified from certain scholarships because I am not of Slovenian descent?

I am qualified for another one simply because I am descended from a specific ancestor.

So if someone wants to fund a scholarship to only include those who they claim they are heterosexual or only those who claim they are homosexuals- why would I care?

Now proving any such claims might be a little tougher than someone proving that their family came from Slovenia.

 

not at all

I've never received one but I have funded several and set the stipulations/criteria (sports related)

I want feedback about whether it's right to discriminate against homosexuals and if so, is it then ok to discriminate against heteros

 

Well, as far as the original one being restricted based on how they have sex, that doesn't appear completely true

"Point Foundation provides financial support, mentoring, leadership training and hope to meritorious students who are marginalized due to sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression"
"No, it is not required that you identify within the LGBT community to apply. Additionally, Point realizes that identities within "LGBT" do not apply to everyone on the Queer spectrum, and Point welcomes all spectrums of the Queer community to apply. Point does require that you have a history of leadership in or alliance with issues that affect the LGBT/Queer community and you must plan to continue this leadership/alliance in the future."

Presumably, the "gender identity or gender expression" could come in the form of a person having sex with either gender.

That said, the point is irrelevant, as presumably someone COULD limit one to homosexuals, just as some scholarships have been limited to heterosexuals. Is it right? Well, scholarships do often tend to be focused on those that are marginalized, itself being one of the criteria of the scholarship program linked. It makes sense that such efforts are made, but I also concede that such efforts can go too far. In terms of it being a scholarship, like mentioned, people make all sorts of sometimes arbitrary restrictions on who qualifies, so I would call such a restriction par for the course worst case scenario. People can make what restrictions they want for the gifts, and I wouldn't call this a problem unless its ultimate function was to restrict who can and can't go to college.

 

If it is a private scholarship, they have the right to set the terms, however offensive they may be. People have a right to give their money to who they want.

 

For scholarships paid by private institutes I would have to agree. But, any public colleges, who use tax money to pay for scholarships, would not be allowed to do it since public schools can not discriminate based on sexual orientation.

 

Depends on the source, of course. As a public institution, a scholarship should be awarded on a basis closely related to their mission.

I'm not sure if funding a scholarship is a tax deduction, but you might be entering a bit of a gray area in that case.

 

Nowhere does it say that individuals must engage in homosexual sex to receive one of these scholarships. What you've done here is illustrate yet again that you're incapable of distinguishing between orientation vs. behavior.

I'm going to call this thread exactly what it is: flamebaiting.

 

i thank you for your opinion albeit incorrect.

 

I heard that in California many students are lying, saying (or strongly suggesting) that they are gay in their college applications just to get in to certain public schools such as Berkeley. It's sad that it has come down to this, students having to pretend to be homosexuals so they do not get openly discriminated against in the admissions process.

 

So, you "heard". Anything to substantiate what you've "heard"?

Come on!

 

http://www.details.com/culture-tren...-lgbt-sexual-orientation-ivy-league-admission
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2006/10/09/gay

 

why not? We have a candidate for US Senator in MA who claimed to be "native American" in order to gain stature. (and liberals will still vote for her )

That is a problem with the inequality of affirmative action. As a white male I cannot make claim to being a black female but if politicians and private institutions want to make provisions for homosexuals then why not say "I'm gay" if it gets me fast tracked or extra cash? They cannot disprove my claim of being gay.

This calls into question of where the morality of the USA has gone.

 

Are heterosexuals marginalized?

 

I got harrassed at a .gov job by a boss who was trying to get my certifications revoked. He was targetting the fact that I had "a lot of young.girl.friends on facebook" (all were legal, out of highschool, etc) He said it looked bad.

So after enough harrassment.... I stated in an investigation that I was gay and preferred the company of pretty females because they best understood and accepted me and that I didn't appreciate being forced to come out like this because bossman was trying to say I slept with young girls. Amazingly enough.... all investigations stopped

 

my only question is how one can prove you're gay in order to apply for a gay scholarship.... or straight to apply for a straight scholarship.

I also knew a black girl that looked white.... blonde hair blue eyes. (Her hair was the black hair) But it took me 6 months to realize she was actually black.

but if you saw her sitting in a classroom on a minority scholarship, you'd think she lied about it.

 

I'd play the "gay card" all day long if I could not get ahead on my own merit. Let someone try and prove that I don't sleep with other men.

this is where liberalism has taken us. Liberals create little silos to place people into so they can pander to them instead of treating all as equal.

Right now, gays are the new flavor of the day for liberal politicians. Who knows what it will be next year.

And instead of wanting to be treated as equals with no special considerations, the gay movement throws in with those who consider them inferior; liberals

 

Just be gay or straight and get our scholarship! That's nothing compared to some of the weirdo scholarship stipulations out there. I mean just take a look at these scholarships. http://www.fastweb.com/college-scholarships/articles/2859-15-weird-scholarships?page=1

My favorite thus far, live in a nudist's colony to get this scholarship.

http://www.anrl.org/html/contact.html

People can put whatever stipulations they want on the money they give you, what's the big deal? You just have to apply for the ones that suit you. lol