My area is getting hit hard by global warming

This is the incoherent babble you posted.

I've already answered that. Do you realise the oceans were 400 feet lower than they are today 15,000 years ago and have risen ever since ?...end quote flogger.

Whatever this is supposed to be saying....the facts are that every time there is an Ice Age sea levels fall as water evaporates and instead of rain we get snow build up with becomes Glaciers.

Whenever the Earth's solar orbit is in it's period allowing more solar radiation to strike the planet Global Temps. increase thus melting Glacier Ice and Polar Ice which results in HIGHER SEA LEVELS.

The PROBLEM IS....we are NOT in a Solar Orbit Period specific to warming.

Global Warming is MAN MADE.

AboveAlpha

 

The U.S. Military and specifically the U.S. Navy plans that are set to evacuate Tarawa and all it's people before 2020 as well as many other U.S. Territory Island Nations....is not a doom and gloom STORY.

It is a doom and gloom REALITY!

AboveAlpha

 

I didn't realise English wasn't your first language or perhaps you are just a bit too thick to comprehend simple sentences. I'll try and make the words smaller next time

So what caused all these other much larger temperature spikes since the last ice age ? It certainly wasn't the Milankovitch solar cycle over so short a timescale

http://mclean.ch/climate/Ice_cores.htm

 

I'm going to hang up and listen for the answer flogger. I can't wait.

 

Hey Durandal...Did you expect to see this thread with 630 posts or so on April 13th?

 

Hmmm - a suspect website with references that are over 10 years old

Also concentrates on only two proxy data measurement instead of multiples which are needed to a) verify the measurement and b) reduce regional differences and c) stop the writer making big straw men out of snow

This is especially suspect when BETTER data that uses multiple proxies can easily be found on more valid websites - but then those websites have the misfortunate habit of telling truth rather than obfuscation

 

And yet the search for alternatives has given us a lot of technological advantages and has taken us a long way from where we were. Once upon a time streets were lit by gas lamps then technology changed now we are due for another change - why is this so bad??

 

The raw data used in the graphs is sublinked at the foot of the page . If it is in error please point out where ?

 

Single source data - instead of multiple proxies - and that website you got it off is getting more out of date by the minute

 

Denier tactic #4. Misrepresenting the Science & Logical Fallacies
From your link that links to the data
Column 1: Age (thousand years before present)
Column 2: Temperature in central Greenland (degrees C)


Age Temperature (C)
0.0951409 -31.5913

If you read the study, present is defined as 1950. 0.095 thousands of years is 95 years before the study; that's 1855, before CO2's influence on climate.

Denier science once again goes down in flames.

 

How does empirical data get out of date ?

 

What on Earth is 'denier science' supposed to be other than the twisted dellusion within the mind of an eco extremist nutjob

Theres plenty of corroborating info from other studies

Here in just 4000 years we can see how normal todays conditions are. Well it can be seen if you aren't a greenwashed climate zealot anyway



http://www.leif.org/EOS/2011GL049444.pdf

And more ...

http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/mwpp.php
http://pages.science-skeptical.de/MWP/MedievalWarmPeriod.html

 

The search for alternatives has been a huge waste of tax payer dollars not to mention fruitless.

 

So you're going to ignore your "mistake" and fling more (*)(*)(*)(*) onto the wall.

 

why do do the warm mongers think about this science

most of the last 10,000 years temps have been warmer than today with several several up and down swings while CO2 remained steady. Since you seem to be so big on science explain all the natural factors that caused these many temperature swings and why they have noting to do with the current warming. Then and only then will I even consider the whack job CO2 is the Earths thermostat BS. As this figure from NOAA shows present day temperatures are quite a bit cooler than they have been for the previous 10,000 years

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/pubs/alley2000/alley2000.html

 

That's because we play all around the Mulberry Bush on here. Rehash after rehash after rehash of the same thing.I feel like I'm participating in a PeeWee Herman episode of "I know you are, but what am I". When someone wishes to take proxie data over actual data should tell us all something about the silliness of the subject.

 

Well, proxy data is good for as far as it can go but proxies often diverge from each other and actual temperatures. For instance, Mann wrote about the great tree ring divergence with current recorded temperatures which calls into question his use of tree ring data for his hockey stick. Recorded temperatures are useful but only in a limited way because the time span is so short. Other recordable records are even shorter, like Ocean temperatures, ice coverage, or solar output. When people tack on recorded temperatures to proxy data, it can be very misleading. They have to choose which proxy data they will use and often manipulate it like Mann did to give an output that they deem OK. Mann's program to choose the tree ring proxy data used different calculations and each one gave a different output so he chose only one of those to tack on recorded temperatures.

 

What part of
"Denier tactic #4. Misrepresenting the Science & Logical Fallacies
From your link that links to the data
Column 1: Age (thousand years before present)
Column 2: Temperature in central Greenland (degrees C)


Age Temperature (C)
0.0951409 -31.5913

If you read the study, present is defined as 1950. 0.095 thousands of years is 95 years before the study; that's 1855, before CO2's influence on climate."

did you not understand?

 

You've been shown the evidence from more than just me . Now if this is the best you've got go wave your flag at someone else

 

and they still deny that climate has changed many time overt the last ten thousand years and scientists have few clues as to why. They simply want the western world to destroy it's economy and make it's people suffer through energy poverty so countries like India and China can pollute and prosper while a few billionaires can pad their portfolios even further peddling green energy snake oil.

 

which part of the graph confuses you? Are you really ignorant of the Younger Dryas, Minoan Warm period, Roman Warm period, Little Ice age and Medieval Warm period which are clearly shown on the graph. Even a grade schooler can see that present day temperatures are lower than they have been for most of the last 10,000 years and the graph clearly states thousands of years before present.

 

What is the plan? How many Navy or Military personnel will it take? How many ships? Will they still all be around in six years? What is the budget? this is silly and had nothing to do with my post.

 

On the subject of "sinking" atolls

Tarawa is an atoll not an island. Seawater rises create atolls not destroy them. Even Darwin recognized atolls "float" on freshwater lenses. If the atoll is shrinking it could be caused by many factors but rising sea levels are not one of them. Overpopulation depleting the freshwater lense, decreased rainfall, erosion, over fishing or pollution destroying the coral dwelling fish. CO2 has noting to do with the disappearing of any atolls though. however the green K street lobbyist and UN propagandists use the lack of scientific knowledge of the warm mongers to convince then that a .01% increase in an atmospheric trace gas is going to overheat the world

http://www.enn.com/ecosystems/article/39427

 

Well global warming is stalled again...at least in St. Louis, MO here on 4/14/14...freeze warning and possible snow predicted tonight.

 

global warming is like a chameleon. Over the years it has evolved from global warming to climate change to catastrophic weather. Co2 can cause heat waves, blizzards, droughts and floods, it can simultaneously cause a increase in San Francisco fog and a decrease depending on who is writing the pal reviewed paper.