"My People" Holder Strikes Again!

So it seems that the DOJ is basically telling schools across the nation to stop punishing one group of people for the infractions they incur. It would appear black students who commit offenses, which follow the school's own guidelines, find themselves in jail far more than other students. The response to this? Schools don't need to follow laws that would put black student's in jail, instead they should break the law and send them to the principle's office.

The Department of Justice issued new guidance Wednesday aimed at curbing harsh, discriminatory over-punishment of school discipline violations. The materials disseminated with the Department of Education aim to increase legal compliance after DOJ filed several lawsuits against cities that dole out criminal punishment to students for violations as minor as dress code violations.
“A routine school disciplinary infraction should land a student in the principal’s office, not in a police precinct,” U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...chools-stop-sending-kids-jail-breaking-rules/

The problem here is that we actually are supposed to have a justice system to challenge laws, not just decrees from DOJ. This is outrageous...

 

DOJ is part of the justice system whether you like it or not.

 

They don't rule by decree. There is only one responsible and legal way to handle this, and that is through the courts. Racist policies like this seek equal results without regard to offenses committed, as nobody is arguing these blacks aren't breaking the rules...

 

Wow, where was he when a six your old White kid get suspended and charged with sexual assault when he kissed a girls hand? Or how about the other 6 year old that was also charged with sexual assault for touching a girl running while playing tag? How about the boy that was suspended for drawing a picture of a gun on a piece of paper?

 

They weren't his people...

 

That is a creative interpretation of the article.

I would say that it is a critique on ridiculous zero tolerance policies mandated by law that do not allow the actual school to handle the problem.

 

The AG is acting within his authority.

 

When I was going to school and you screwed up they took you into the principle's office and either paddled you, or hit your hand with a ruler, depending on the infraction. This was done in grade school and it taught kids to follow the rules and it carried over to Jr. High and High School. After punishment, you were sent home with a note to your parents of why you got punished. They had to sign it and return it to the school. We never had the trouble with kids in school as they have today. You have to teach them early if you want them to respect the rules when they get older. .

The problem today is we have taken religion and punishment away from the parents and teachers. We have millions of kids growing up today without fathers to guide them. Liberals have ruined this country.

 

Cool story bro.

 

Bold didn't happened. He was never criminally charged with sexual assault. The description of the suspension was "sexual harrassment".

In fact the entire ordeal, decisions, and punishment of the story you refer to was completely contained in house of the school's administration. No law enforcement or justice system was involved.

This is not what Holder is citing. He is citing indicidents in which school disiplinary actions are NOT kept in house and are given over to law enforcement and/or the justice system for school code infractions.

Same with the paper gun. Law enforcement was not invovled at all. Infact what you are citing is exactly how Holder wants those situations to be handled, in the principals office, in house.

 

So the DOJ was acting within its authority when it discriminated against blacks, instead of in favor of?

Cause I think that is a pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) argument myself.

 

As long as the school infractions doesn't do harm to someone else, it should be handled in house. I agree. But I also think if we brought back punishment like we use to have, these older kids wouldn't be acting up in school like they do today.

My wife use to be a teacher in Chicago for two years and quit because she couldn't control her class room and teach like she felt she should.

 

What exactly did the AG do here that is discriminatory?

 

You're still using that? I thought that died out among the 8 year olds on sports mb's years ago?

 

Nope, still a completely valid respose to someone's random anecdote that has little or nothing to do with a topic.

 

I know we didn't have the mess we had in schools back then as we have today.

When I was going to school and you screwed up they took you into the principle's office and either paddled you, or hit your hand with a ruler, depending on the infraction. This was done in grade school and it taught kids to follow the rules and it carried over to Jr. High and High School. After punishment, you were sent home with a note to your parents of why you got punished. They had to sign it and return it to the school. We never had the trouble with kids in school as they have today. You have to teach them early if you want them to respect the rules when they get older. .

The problem today is we have taken religion and punishment away from the parents and teachers. We have millions of kids growing up today without fathers to guide them. Liberals have ruined this country.

 

I'm sure those are the only things that have changed since you were in school.

 

People nowadays (myself included) will not tolerate some unrelated party spanking their kid. If kids act up anywhere, whether it be at a friend's house, the mall, the grocery store, etc., the people running the place cannot hit them. I don't see why teachers should be treated any differently in that regard. If a teacher hit my kid I would hit the teacher. Simple as that.

 

This rule is put forth for ALL students to not be sent to police.

Holder's observation that ONE of the problems with the current policies is that black students are sent to police much more often for the same infractiona a whites is just that - an observation..

Obama Derangement Syndrome at its finest!

Day after day we have threads started by outraged Righties over police being called on students for minor or ridiculous issues, Obama's DOJ works to stop it, and the SAME Righties who were screaming about calling cops on kids NOW call a policy to NOT call cops on kids "outrageous" .

Go figure.

 

Holder is a racist. This action is racist. It's guaranteed to degrade the government schools for everyone.

Blacks commit more crime. Deal.

 

The people who had to wait in traffic jams werent chris christies people......

The Tea Party groups who were targeted by obama and pals at the IRS, werent obamas people.....

Its all the same kinda bs where our elected officials are not serving the people, they are serving themselves by abusing their power.

eric holder is a racist coward.

 

BS.

The reason schools were any less crazy in the "Good Ol' Days" than now (if they were - I doubt it) is that kids that were troublesome were either thrown out or dropped out PERMANENTLY. Numerous people I knew and worked with I was young never went beyond the 6th grade, some even stopped at the third grade. In poor neighborhoods it was very common, and many schools got rid of minorities as quickly as they could..

Keeping ALL children in school is a relatively new idea, and it is expensive to deal with the 20% or so who have learning/discipline problems (often caused by the home life and parents) that were simply tossed aside back then.

 

Demanding schools not obey the law in order to reduce the amount of people of his race in jail. This was specifically the intent of this, as stated by both he and Duncan. "If we just don't involve the law... fewer black kids will be arrested for their arrest worthy crimes..."

Das racis.

Holder is trying to protect "his people" by ignoring laws that black people violate more often. This is why when rashes black kids play the knockout game against the elderly it is "harassment" not assault... and when a white guy does it, it is a hate crime. We ignore the black flash mobbing which is still on the rise... Don Glock just isn't here to tell you about them anymore.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...6c5a5e-7899-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html

Maybe you like having a racist AG, deciding what laws to enforce and which ones not to to get more of one race in jail than another. I find it pretty sickening.

 

'Time to file the DOJ paper work. We are 5 blacks over the quota go round up 15 white kids and suspend them.'

If you think that is far fetched remember that Britain put Micheal Savager on a hate group list and banned him from the country for the sole reason of adding balance to the list.

 

So much for justice is blind...

"What laws should we selectively enforce to keep black people out of jail?"

As for the leftists asking "what's wrong with that?" I am not accepting any more questions on this. If you have to ask, you are either too stupid or too dishonest to continue with. It isn't rocket science.