N.Y. farm will no longer host weddings rather than allow same-sex ceremonies

If they didnt sue him for not baking the cake for their wedding, then what DID they sue him for?

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Obeying God is more important than obeying man. But in Russia, Christians dont go through stuff like this.

 

So in order to fulfil your religious beliefs you want to remove the rights of people .. how nice.

 

Absolutely nothing to do with the 1st Amendment .. unless the 1st allows discrimination that is, does it?

As expected a sexist comment.

 

Those Christians had totally valid moral reasons for discriminating in that situation. Its called exceptions to the rule (doesnt this arguement sound familiar-i used it in the abortion forum too).

How was the joke sexist?

 

Sam I am not going to hold your hand in conversations that have already been had .. do some bloody research.

Then I respectfully suggest you move to a theocracy country, where I'm sure you will be very happy, either that or read and understand your own constitution.

 

Yep and it is just as big a failure here as it is there . .there is no exception to the rule when it comes to peoples rights.

As you didn't even understand the "joke" any explanation would be pointless.

 

Which has nothing to do with my point that the couple shouldnt have sued them.

Nothing is as pointless as a Brit drinking breakfest tea. or how to play cricket.

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Oh trust me, know it all. I did a LOT of reading about the Jack Phillips court case.

You just dont understand my arguement. I'm not even arguing that what the christians did was legal. Im arguing that they had valid moral reasons for what they did, and thus, the couple should have just GONE SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET THE SERVICE, and not sued them. And I

Also, Russia is not a theocracy.

 

No. I'm the guy that keeps telling you to mind your own business, stay out of my Bill of Rights, don't force me to pay for something stupid, do not legislate morality to me

 

I am not in anybody's business, you negated the bill of rights when you declared that this country was a democracy. You aren't being forced to pay for anything. I am advocating the removal of morality legislation.

 

You say the business owners had a valid moral reason, please elaborate. I am Christian myself, and I don't recall seeing anything in the morality of Christianity forbidding commerce with homosexuals. But I am interested if they do have a valid reason.

Fyi, I don't think the couple should have sued them. I really think they did it over hurt feelings. And You can't really be awarded damages over that. Thus, if they are/were Your friends, move on, if they were just some business you wanted to patronize, see to it they never get a single penny from you. But than again I am not the vindictive type.

I am still interested in this valid reason you say they had to deny service to this couple.

 

even more insults based on some weak notion that because I wish to remain independent of government for my every move is being a socialist? Because I'm not standing around with my hand our begging for table scraps, granting the government the permission to control my existence, not being a drain on the system...all of those things make me a socialist???
another tactic of the Progressive Liberals is to try to reverse their situation on another. Calling me a socialist is the same as calling yourself a conservative, and by your posts in here, based on your equation, you ARE a conservative. You are just operating under the disguise of being a Liberal.

 

yet you condemn me for my morality. I never declared this country a democracy, the Communists did.
We no longer operate as a democracy, we operate as a subjects of the Law. The first sign of tyranny occurs when your legislators exempt themselves from the very laws they pass............

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At some point, a person draws a line in the sand. What's hard to see there?

 

umm. . . What?

 

Draws a line in the sand?

Yeah, how dare people live lives separate from others.

What a ridiculous stand to make. Try making them on principles you can effect. Not liking homosexuals, is about like not liking sunrise.

 

I have absolutely no use for gays. They have already shown me how militant and aggressive they are. they demand tolerance, but fail to give it up themselves. A person who doesn't make a stand is apt to fall for anything, especially the crap that comes from gays.
"We are the same as you." Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!!!!

 

It's a sex joke, my friend.

 

Am I not forced to pay taxes? Do I have any say on how the taxes are used?
Am I not required through some lame law to pay for abortions?
Bull (*)(*)(*)(*). I am being forced to pay for someone else's lame insurance and support a legislative body that cannot balance their own check books....
not being forced ..that was a joke, wasn't it?

 

You thought wrong. We live in a Constitutionally Limited Representative Republic. Government can not pass laws "just because", at any level, no matter how popular the idea might be. You probably don't realize it, but you have no right to vote for President. That's completely at the option of your State Legislature, and while all 50 states currently DO use a popular vote method, that's not guaranteed. There is no process for a nationwide referendum.

 

But not for marriage, thanks for agreeing with me.

 

Ho, it's bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? I wasn't aware of anydifference in species.

If we were militant, you wouldn't be breathing.

 

In your opinion, the law and the constitution does not agree with you.

nothing as pointless as a young kid not have the slightest clue what they are talking about.

Oh trust me you know sweet FA.

I fully understand you argument, which is irrelevant .. just because you think someone shouldn't sue someone else has no bearing on what they think. Exactly where in the bible does it tell you not to have commerce with homosexuals especially as the guy has already had a commerce relationship with homosexuals anyway.

Neither did I say it was.

 

so, it was a joke

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there isn't that many gays.............since the numbers are against you, I seriously doubt that

 

Your morality is your business .. except when you try to use that morality as a method for denying other people their rights.

do you actually read you own comments before posting them?

Obviously not.

You NEVER were a democracy, neither did you EVER operate as one and you have always been subjects of the Law .. what the hell do you think your constitution and BoR is if not law.

Which has nothing to do with the topic .. deflection on your part.

 

than there isn't any militant gays.

 

that's the difference between living in a state of Liberty and a state of serfdom, a position most brits love

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then you never participated in this thread. Plenty of it here.............