N.Y. Times scraps AIPAC from Syria story

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Only the Jews are coming out in polls as being in favour of speedily getting non Jews to murder other non Jews.

    This time in Syria.

    Your story there proves it.

    The polls that show two thirds of Jews in Israel support it, that is proof.

    And this...

    The American Jewish establishment jumped off the fence on Tuesday and came out in full support of Congressional approval of President Barack Obama’s plans to launch a military strike against Syria’s chemical weapon capacity.

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/.premium-1.545297

    They are out of step with ALL other people's.

    A clear distinction has been made beyond ALL doubt.

    They are one way. And we are another way. The evidence supports it.
     
  2. AmericanNationalist

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    We can make this basic correlation:

    Siding with the AXIS meant:
    -No USSR
    -No Terrorism
    -The Western Powers would have still created our New Order, but with half the hassle.

    In hindsight, siding with the AXIS was not only the right thing, it was the best thing to do. Emotionalism and fanaticism(Roosevelt/Churchill) led to awful decisions.

    As an example, I would have offered to lift the embargo on necessities to the Japanese Empire as long as they halted their assault on Chinese territories. I would argue that U.S. aid is more than sufficient and that the territories they did claim were more than enough. No need to butcher people who have nothing to do with government disputes.

    Similarly, I would have recognized Danzig and the Corridor as exclusively German territories, but that the State of Poland is independent of German control. The USSR had even less claim to any territory whatsoever of Poland.

    Czechslovakia was certainly a violation, but it wouldn't be worth going to world war over and perhaps could be negotiated over time. Perhaps he felt that the Czech Government had to be regulated at a time of disorder and chaos, in which case I would ask him to allow INTL. Officers to collaborate with the German officials to see to a transition that befits the world community.

    There were plenty of ways to avoid what occurred back then.
     
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    Oh and now you think the holocaust is fake too? lol Priceless. Have fun backing your terrorist palestinians Iranians and Syrians.
     
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    Not without making a mockery of our founding principles.
     
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    To quote the philosophers, Fleetwood Mac, "you can go your own way." And the equally estimable, Billy Joel, "go ahead with your own life and leave (US) alone!"
     
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    Wouldn't you say that Hitler and his henchmen were beneath the lot of all the decent humans they murdered and, as such, were undeserving of your annoying philosophy of extending niceties to those guilty of pure evil?
     
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    Points well taken!
     
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    Are you kidding? Jack praises Hitler for his genocide.
     
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    Yeah, but I was addressing, unskewedewd, for positioning himself to give anti-Semites some wiggle room when the subject of universal condemnation of Muslim anti-Semitism comes up. There's little difference in intent between Nazis and fundamental Islamists. Anyone extending either of them human dignity and decency has a debt to pay the victims of their murderous deeds and doesn't deserve to be well thought of by the rest of humanity.

    In other words, unskewedewd, can peddle his mis-directed show of moderation to members of the Muslim Brotherhood Forum.
     
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    Ah my mistake, was looking at the post above it. But still my post stands.
     
  12. AmericanNationalist

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    Specifically, do you believe a government managed to round up 6 million people, gas them and exterminate them? Sorry, a government isn't a god. There's no way they executed that many people without the general population realizing and then revolting.

    To be sure, there was heavy prejudice, and I'm not discounting the actual event itself. But 6 million? It's as absurd as Sarah Palin seeing Russia from her house.
     
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    Going to war itself made a mockery of our Founding Principles.

    " Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations -- entangling alliances with none."

    If we were to engage in an entangling alliance, we can't not say in hindsight that AXIS was the far superior choice for the Western Empires. Even Winston Churchill finally realized "We killed the wrong bird!"

    By the way, I feel like we're making the same mistake with Syria. Would we want Rebels to have Chemical Weapons or a feasible solution with the main players(US and Russia) on the ground? I'd be making dialogue attempts with Putin on Syria's fate, Post Assad.
     
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    We might have had reason to militarily engage the 1945 Soviets, but no one who considers themselves serious observers could really argue that anything but a total defeat of Nazi Germany, ASAP, was the ONLY alternative we had in the European Theater.

    I do, however, commend you on your practice of arguing ludicrous propositions. It's a good way of training.
     
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    And that would be no problem at all, actually I would have no problem with Jews going 'their way'. As long as their way was a path our of the body politic of Europe, out of our financial affairs, and out of our media, academia, etc.

    You have had your state for 66yrs. Go your way by all means. Your values are not our values. Your outlook is simply not our outlook. Accept that to mix us is like oil and water, we simply do not go. All the times Jews were thrown out of Russian and Europe down the ages, without pointing the finger back and forward, is ample proof that we simply do not share the same values, ethics, and so on. I know we will never change your nature. But your have tried so hard to change our nature. But you will fail here with this. You've had some success in doing it, I grant you. You have managed to impose and infuse some of your 'values' onto our lands and people, but nothing that cannot be speedily repaired. But even with all of that, and as someone else described, you will fail. Because, at best, all you will achieve is akin to putting people's emotions in a bottle. A bottle which will explode and spill out.

    Our differing values can be evidenced any number of ways. However, this past couple of weeks, a clearer RED LINE between Jews and non Jews could not have been made most distinct.

    The overwhelming majority of non Jews in Europe and the US do not want to bomb freaking Syria or anywhere, like a bunch of mafia goons. The majority of Jews do. As evidenced in the polls which can be compared, as evidenced by all Jewish groups in the US and IPAC coming out in support of getting non Jews to kill non Jews. That is what it comes down to, and if you wish to deny these facts, please do so. Prove anything I have said here to be wrong.

    So. Yes, please go your way. If Jews want to be prominent in politics, they have Israel. Be prominent there. If Jews want to run the media, run the Israeli media, and leave our media the hell alone.

    But they won't. For to create a homeland with the sole purpose of living peacefully in was NEVER the intention.

    That is why Jewish Zionism is NOT nationalism. It is internationalist. Like communism. Bedfellows. To Jewish created concepts.

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    What genocide?

    And what does this have to do with the actual subject?
     
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    :applause:
     
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    Are you sure you're understanding the concept of the red line?
     
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    These principles are out of step with the anti values of Israeli subversives.

    And it is they who now Govern you.

    No matter who you cast a vote for.
     
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    Absurd, considering http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html Hitler's many peace proposals.

    Hitler was a far more rational actor than Stalin, with Germany on our side, a USSR defeat would have been militarily and economically feasible without relying on the Islamic fringe.

    Roosevelt, Churchill and Obama have one thing in common: Geopolitical ineptitude. And if that offer in 1933 was sincere, would it not have accomplished what Versallies was meant to in the first place?

    Then, just as now we're led by imbeciles.
     
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    Lol.

    Even Stalin was to regret trusting one of them in the end.

    Fact.
     
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    It's been said that "One death is a tragedy, a thousand deaths is a statistic." Whether the Third Reich murdered one million Jews, other minorities and Poles, or six million, or eight million or more, is totally irrelevant to this thread and to what is going on today. We have reached the point of Godwin's law.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
     
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    It's not even a law, it's one man's flimsy opinion :D Agreed that it has no point though, bring that up to the one who suggested that those anti-AIPAC were supporters of times of atrocity.I'd also say that the government didn't directly murder them.

    It was a war. People die. All sides were "wrong", there is no such thing as righteous killing.

    I argue if people want to judge that particular government, or any government, judge by their domestic and foreign policies.
     
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    Anyway, back to Syria, and as you can see here from the Parliament debate, it is good to see there are still some righteous men and women among the body politic. Stunning stuff at the start, with one Judaic going on about the 'holocost'..... so lets murder people in Syria. That is their mixed up thinking you see. It shows you weird they are to be honest.

    [video=youtube;qCqj0OvlJgo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCqj0OvlJgo&feature=c4-overview&list=UUp6AZnSXblJgezDHpPu2ZGg[/video]
     
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    All the Jews are trying to do is to halt the propaganda efforts of those of you anti-Semitic prejudiced Jew hating bigots who are using well practiced lies and myths to try to legitimize your never ending hatred of them. If they were left alone in peace you would know them as only peaceful.

    Instead, it is Islam which has a hard on for Jews as well as all other non-Muslims.

    The reason why Muslims are more often than not surrounded by violence, strife, disagreements and death is because of the Arab nature to fight...anyone (me and my brother against my cousin...my cousin and I against a member of another tribe...) and everyone AND the Muslim marching orders from the Prophet or Allah or both (please enlighten us as to which is correct?) to conquer all non-Muslims and make all lands the House of Islam until Islam reigns supreme over all on Earth.

    If it wasn't for that you wouldn't have much to say about Israel.

    So, your basis for attacking Israel is the same as the KKK's lynching a Black man in America's Jim Crow era.

    You just hate.
     
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    Either, you were raised in one of those schools where traditional American values were not instilled in you or you are a foreigner posing as an American.

    Which is it?
     

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