Naval Sea Battle In Azov Sea - Russia captured 3 Ukrainian Ships

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  1. MMC

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    The Ukrainians have never confiscated 14 Russian ships. If they had ever done so. There would be no Ukraine.

    Did you forget who controls Russia?

    Here let me remind you.

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    Anyone who holds power is an Authoritarian. Tell us what US President tells someone to make all decisions for him.
     
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    Trump hasn't been in charge for 18 years and (so far) hasn't had his political opponents jailed or murdered, and does not have a crooked government under his thumb to carry out his every whim.
     
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    not even the Russians have mentioned it, since its FAKE NEWS
     
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    Correct Trump hasn't been in charge for 18 years. At least you have figured out that much.

    Authoritarians don't have to have people jailed or murdered. The Clue for you should have been any US president letting someone else make all decisions for him.

    Also the Queen of England didn't have a crooked government under her thumb.

    I would recommend you study up on authoritarianism.
     
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    Authoritarianism is a term political scientists use for a worldview that values orderliness and authority, and distrusts outsiders and social change. As a form of government, it is characterized by strong central power and limited political freedoms. Individual economic or personal freedoms are subordinate to the state and there is no constitutional accountability under an authoritarian regime.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

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    18 years with no end in sight.
     
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    Russia had no right to fire on the ships and kidnap the sailors
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, then the MSM never hides information when it's politically expedient? So where's the outcry over the latest terrorist chemical attack in Aleppo? Seems like there's no point blaming Assad now that they can't bomb him with the new missile defenses - so why mention it.
     
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    FDR was a notoriously authoritarian president with many of his proposals and executive actions being struck down by the Supreme Court as overreaching and unconstitutional. On the other hand, John Adams, the second president of the United States, instituted the Alien and Sedition Acts.

    Which US president was most authoritarian? - Quora
    www.quora.com/Which-US-president-was-most-authoritarian


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    Sounds like you're squirming to make excuses. Is Deutsche Welle MSM?

    https://www.dw.com/en/russia-bombs-militants-after-aleppo-chlorine-attack/a-46442475

    But never mind, this is off topic. This thread is about Russia attacking Ukraine. It's not about the nonsense you read on fake news sites.
     
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    Well you certainly seem to hold the carved in stone "Core Belief" that the Official Narratives
    you are being fed by the CIA controlled MSM regarding the crisis in the Sea of Azov is due
    to the wicked machinations of those nasty Spiritually Degenerate Russki's.- as Zoomy would have it

    & so as a Believer you are called to:
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    Ephesians 6:12 King James Version (KJV)
    12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,

    against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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    Have you ever stopped to considered, that just maybe, some of that Spiritual Wickedness
    .....................................................that you are called to oppose might be of this variety ?


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    The kind of Spiritual Wickedness that feels that the murder of half a million children
    ..is a $Price$ they feel is WORTH paying. And that this sort of.Spiritual Wickedness
    .....................................just might be the kind that YOU are being called to oppose ?

    And have you ever considered that just this sort of Spiritual Wickedness might be capable
    ...............of Lying to you about just who it was that precipitated the Ukraine/Russia crisis,
    ..............the Iraq & Afghanistan debacles - the bombing of Libya into the stone age, etc etc ?

    And that the "Core Values" that you treasure, regarding the USofA are no longer Extant
    ........................................and that just maybe you are now on the WRONG side of history ?


    Declassified CIA Documents Show Agency’s Control Over
    Mainstream Media & Academia

    https://www.collective-evolution.co...ncies-control-over-mainstream-media-academia/


    Past Myth
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    Present Reality
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    How about this bit of news Mr. Spinmeister. The sailors were given orders not to respond to the radio messages of the Russian border guards, and to open fire in response. The ships had 30mm gun, twin 7.62mm machine gun CT's, and 2 grenade launchers. No doubt the intent was to get the Russians to respond and sink the ships.

    The lambs who were sent to the slaughter didn't want to die though for Poroshenko and his criminals ilk in Kiev and surrendered. The tragedy Poroshenko planned, turned instead into a farce as it always does - but usually at the cost of many lives. Debaltsevo comes to mind.
     
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    Thank God!

    At least there is one person with the courage to stand up to the liberal and criminal new world order.
     
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    Why would you "thank God" for a dictator like Putin? Russia should be allowed to burn down until its the Third World nation it is destined to be.

    Not sure why you would object to that.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you know the Russian's haven't? Oh that's right, it wasn't mentioned in the MSM.:roflol:
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess you never heard of the author; Udo Ulfkotte a well known German Editor who risked his life to reveal that his writings were under the auspices of the CIA.

     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, they're 'untermenchens'? I didn't realize that. Heil to you too!



     
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    Wow, research much?

    No, the ships that the US sold to the Ukraine are 2 Island class patrol boats. In the US, they are 110' Coast Guard cutters. Armed with a single 25mm gun and 2 .50 cal machine guns. The 2 ships you are referring to at the USCGC Cushing (1988-2017) and the USCGC Drummond (1988-2017). They are still both in the US, the crews and maintenance personnel are still undergoing training in their new ships, and are not expected to return home with their new boats until 2019.

    You know, it is almost as easy to just do a little research and find out the truth, instead of simply implying something that is completely false.
     
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    Grandpa, you again forgot to drink a sedative.
     
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    Using history to justify behavior is not valid.
    The understanding in the international community is that we
    ACCEPT THE BORDERS AS THEY ARE TODAY.
    Otherwise we might as well fight over every border, all over again.
    Russia is redrawing borders - that's the thing.
     
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    Yes it very clearly DOES -..Perhaps you could consider a remedial
    ................................................in basic Word Comprehension


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    Declassified CIA Documents
    Show Agency's Control Over MSM And Academia

    https://www.collective-evolution.co...ncies-control-over-mainstream-media-academia/
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    Just A Few From The Article:
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    The document states that the CIA task force “now has relationships with reporters from every major wire service,
    newspaper, news weekly, and television network in the nation,” and that “this has helped us turn some ‘intelligence
    failure’ stories into ‘intelligence success” stories,’

    &
    it explains how the agency has “persuaded reporters to postpone, change, hold, or even scrap stories that could
    have adversely affected national security interests

    &
    Herein lies the problem: What is “national security,” and who determines that definition?
    &
    “National security” is now an umbrella term used to justify concealing information, but who makes these decisions?
    &
    Not only are countless documents classified every single year in North America, but false information and “fake news”
    are routinely dispersed, mainly by mainstream media outlets — a reality that is clearly conveyed in this document and
    has been expressed by multiple mainstream media journalists themselves.

    &
    Dr. Udo Ulfkotte, a prominent German journalist and editor for more than two decades, is one example. He blew the
    whistle on public television, stating that he was forced to publish the works of intelligence agencies under his own name
    and that noncompliance with these orders would result in him losing his job.

    &
    Sharyl Attkisson and Amber Lyon, both well-known mainstream media reporters and journalists, have also exposed
    funded movements by political, corporate, and other special interests, and have revealed that they are routinely paid
    by the U.S. government as well as foreign governments to selectively report and distort information on certain events.

    &
    The document not only outlines the CIA’s role in media, but also the entire entertainment industry in general, lending further
    weight to revelations offered by celebrities

    &
    Let’s not forget about Operation Mockingbird, a CIA-based initiative to control mainstream media. ------- a previously
    classified research program through the CIA’s scientific intelligence division that tested behavioral modification and
    perception manipulation on human beings.

    &
    What we seem to have here is an attempt to manipulate public perception of global events through mainstream media
    and news publications. But what’s perhaps most interesting is the fact that a lot of people are now waking up and seeing
    through many of these lies and manipulation tactics. Instead of just blindly believing what we hear on television, more
    people are starting to think critically, do independent research, and examine a wide array of sources and information.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Another Article That Makes The Point:

    American Corporate MSM
    Is Merged With CIA And Has Been Since The 1950s

    https://washingtonsblog.com/2017/03/american-corporate-msm-merged-cia-since-1950s.html

    ...such connections between American mainstream outlets and the CIA are more than mere conjecture, they are .
    well-known and have been documented for some time.

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    Yes these two. vvv... however my post was phrased as a question which brings me to your shitty attitude...still stuck in puberty?.

    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-po...ter-four-years-of-bureaucratic-blockades.html
     
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    The three stooges are simply going to be put on ignore... I'm not taking your crap
     

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