Navy's Advanced Aerospace Tech Boss Claims Antigravity Patent Is Operable

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    First off, the term 'Antigravity' was inserted by me, though I can't be sure that that is what
    the invention(s) involve(s), and there are several patents, but, based on descriptions, it seems to be so, I'll let you be the judge.

    The Navy has gotten a few mysterious patents of a device or devices that appear to get around Newton's third law, somehow. However, a friend of mine asserted it was just a preemptive patent, that it doesn't actually work, but in case they to get it to work, the patent is there to protect it? Not sure if his logic is right.

    However, isn't it true that for the patent office to grant a patent, it has to be feasible on some level?

    Note: 'The Drive' is primarily an automotive magazine, but their 'War Zone' section deals with things military.

    Anyway, my point in this OP is to offer the suggestion that, given what is reported here, the so called 'tic tacs' just might be American Technology, it's just being hidden in black ops, and they are toying with our pilots to gage reactions?
    (noticing that they are appearing to our pilots, and not Russia's or Chinese, unless you know about it, let me know. If this is true, then it points to the fact that the Tic Tacs might be US Military secret technology).

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...e-tech-boss-claims-key-ufo-patent-is-operable

    Last month, The War Zone reported on a series of strange patent applications the U.S. Navy has filed over the last few years and questioned what their connections may be with the ongoing saga of Navy personnel reporting incidents involving unidentified objects in or near U.S. airspace.

    We have several active Freedom of Information Act requests with the Department of Navy to pursue more information related to the research that led to these patents. As those are being processed, we've continued to dig through the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's (USPTO) Public Patent Application Information Retrieval database to get as much context for these patents as possible.

    In doing so, we came across documents that seem to suggest, at least by the Navy's own claims, that two highly peculiar Navy patents, the room temperature superconductor (RTSC) and the high-energy electromagnetic field generator (HEEMFG), may in fact already be in operation in some manner. The inventor of the Navy's most bizarre patent, the straight-out-of-science fiction-sounding hybrid aerospace/underwater craft, describes that craft as leveraging the same room temperature superconductor technology and high energy electromagnetic fields to enable its unbelievable speed and maneuverability. If those two technologies are already operable as the Navy claims, could this mean the hybrid craft may also already operable or close to operable? Or is this just more evidence that the whole exotic 'UFO' patent endeavor on the Navy's behalf is some sort of ruse or even gross mismanagement of resources?

    At the heart of these questions is the term “operable.” In most patent applications, applicants must assert proof of a patent’s or invention’s “enablement,” or the extent to which a patent is described in such a way that any person who is familiar with similar technologies or techniques would be able to understand it, and theoretically reproduce it.

    However, in these patent documents, the inventor Salvatore Pais, Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division's (NAWCAD) patent attorney Mark O. Glut, and the U.S. Naval Aviation Enterprise's Chief Technology Officer Dr. James Sheehy, all assert that these inventions are not only enabled, but operable.

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    And it goes on from there.
     
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  2. DEFinning

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    I haven't read your link yet, but what your friend told you, doesn't seem to track. I don't know the answer to your question about operability, though you may be right. But the main thing is, if the thing doesn't work & you need to make any changes to it, that would require a whole new patent. The only possible logic I can see in that suggestion would be either that: A) if the change were very minor, maybe you could just amend a current patent; or B) that having the paperwork already completed once, the thought could be that this will save time, if the revisions are not too major (perhaps by being able to use the same blueprint, or partial copy of it, for example).
     
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  3. Patricio Da Silva

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    Well, the Navy has a couple of antigravity machine patents, they look like the notorious 'black triangle', well, insofar as the machine has a delta shape. One must wonder what it is all about, and perhaps the 'tic tac' are the Navy's?

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...ignificant-internal-review-resulted-in-a-demo
     
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    This is my understanding: Only the military can file a patent and keep it if it's an item of national security. If this were filed by a civilian then the military could block it, and take it, and we will never hear about it again. Of course, the patent could leave the military into private hands when the lead researcher leaves the service for a private start-up. This would also block FOIA requests because private corporations are not covered (I don't know if the military is required to sent information because of a FOIA request).

    But, I'd like to think that the military is the best intellectual owner of advanced technology... or not? It sounds worse when I say it out loud.
     
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    Good point.

    In general, patents are public, and for a purpose. You can't patent something, hide it, and then sue someone if they did the same thing! So, when I patent something, everybody in the entire world gets to read it - something that inventors need to understand when they decide to patent something. They are publishing something of value to competitors. And, while their competitors can not use that idea exactly, it is serious information concerning what the inventor is doing.

    So, if someone invents something the military has, does that then mean the inventor can't work in that area anymore? Do they have to sign documents saying they will stop work and not disclose what they've done and basically close up shop?

    This secret patent thing seems really nasty.
     
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    Why does the Navy need patents?
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

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    To protect an invention, maybe?
     
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    I am extremely skeptical about whether this alleged technology is even viable.
     
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    It's operable but not practical in my opinion. It can reach incredible speeds but would take a million million years to overcome the static energy to get you there. Just from what little I know of it.

    Maybe it can keep satellites in on track for 50years of exploration instead I'd using up limited and precious propellant.
     
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    You expect the Navy to get into commerce?
     
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    the opposite, to prevent patent infringements from being used in commerce, that is my take on it, anyway.
     
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    Why would the Navy care?
     
  13. Patricio Da Silva

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    You'll have to ask them. Maybe they don't want that kind of tech in public's hands for fear it might get to the enemy to be used as a weapon. I have no idea.
     

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