NeoZionism's christmas offering

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by moon, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. Jack Napier

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    Like I said, younger than you.

    Not that it matters.

    I am not the one that seems to want to put older people down, all of that time, anyway.
     
  2. moon

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    Again, ' antisemitism ' is a misnomer. Then you've ignored Jack's statement that , when he refers to ' jewish media ' he is using the self-same term that the jewish media use to describe themselves. You are overworking your , somewhat bizarre, desire to have the term ' jew ' proscribed, Liebe. Further, Jack is under no legal constraints to like jews, as perhaps Germans are. You are also ignoring the reasons why Zionism- and the jews associated with it- are so unpopular, worldwide. One of those reasons is neoZionists' reprehensible treatment of captured children. That's the topic of this thread. Address it and troll elsewhere, if you must.
     
  3. Liebe

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    Dunno but when nazis say there is no such thing as anti-semitism, it funnily enough, does not make it so.

    Klux Klux also says there is no such thing as racism and sexists claim that there is no such thing as sexism.

    As if the opposite weren't painfully obvious.

    Funny that.
     
  4. moon

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    Nobody is denying that some jews are disliked, even despised. However, ' antisemitism ' is not the wholly correct term to use. Arabs are Semites. Further, your bogus claims of ' antisemitism ' are clearly designed to divert criticism of neoZionist criminality- of the kind highlighted by the thread topic.
     
  5. Liebe

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    LOL I suppose when the NPD refers to anti-semtic canards or anti-muslim canards and stereotypes, it is also a case of using the terms that the jews/muslims use to describe themselves. You know, that 109 countries claim that haters love? A jewish term too I suppose? Jews describe themselves as psychopaths, sexual abusers too? Muslims as radical sand(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s? Ditto KK members and sexists. Yeah blacks call themselves primitive rapist ignoramuses and women describe themselves as paranoid and weak. Yeah, sure they are all using terms that the victims of their bigotry chose for themselves. LOL. Nice try justifying bigotry. Funnily enough I bet you only think it applies to jews.
     
  6. moon

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    You are also ignoring the reasons why Zionism- and the jews associated with it- are so unpopular, worldwide. Do you understand , Liebe ? Because of the foul doctrine of Zionism, jews are unpopular ? They are unpopular politically. Can you differentiate or are you willingly ignorant .
     
  7. Liebe

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    I know the anthroplogical use of the term. I am also familiar with how the terms was co-opted by Marr and eventually others including the nazis to render its currently defined meaning.

    "Some" jews are not disliked. They are generally being labelled as psychopths, rapists, thieves and every other protocol canard known to the nazis. Not by everyone but when I see it, I say so,whether it suits you or not.
     
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    I can do that. I am happy to engage in that but not with those who would use bigotry because a discussion is fruitless in that case.

    I am wanting a two state solution. But unlike you I think the zionists are home.
     
  9. Jack Napier

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    I know.

    It sometimes feels like being back in the middle ages, and some villagers, with torches, are asking me if I fully accept and am devoted to god.

    Do you ever get that feeling, that we must BEGIN from the point of loving Jews, and giving them more of a free pass, than any other?

    It is obvious to all but liars and the blinded.

    And I have no time for either, nor their snippy comments, nor their efforts to get threads and dialogue shut down, as they do. That doesn't impress anyone, there are words for those who do such things.

    Seriously, the way some want to dance around even uttering the J word, you would think somehow they believe is so divine, that it can ONLY be used in the most deferential manner.

    Well, I say stuff that, I wil not give them a free pass, and if the media were not Jewish owned, then I would not longer need to use the internet, and other methods, to try to wake people up.

    When I look at Israel, the Jewish state, I am not going to pretend that they are not Jews, when they do evil stuff.

    When I look at the millions of good American families, who have lost their homes, due to a totally manipulated economy, and you follow the paper trail back to Bernake, and finally Goldman Sachs etc, again, yes, I DO think it is key not to fail to mention, that once again, it is Jews.

    When I spend time looking into Wall St, and it's almost financial terrorism, and crimes, I am not going to pretend it is just a rambling coincidence that there are just so many Jews, all over it.

    When I look into who wrote up the narrative for Iraq, no, I am not going to ignore the fact that two huckster Jews like Pearle (and freaking SPY!!!), and Wolfowitz, both Jews, were behind in.

    When I look right into the core of the PA and the NDAA Act, very controlling and intrusive laws, I find Jews central to it, yet again, despite only making up 2%, TWO PER CENT of the US population.

    I not only think it matters, I believe it is CRITICAL.

    Israel would sell the US down the river, technology, secrets, all of it.

    You bloody best believe they would.

    They should never, NEVER, be called an ally.
     
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    Of course they are.

    And...years of doing that, by so many like that, have led to the term having no meaning, other than maybe what Hajo Meyer said 'It is used by Jews, against anyone Jews hate'..
     
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    If it were merely a political issue you would not be reading nazi propoganda here in relation to their being a different race, being psychopathic, sexually deviant or any of the other canards we identify on this very thread. I note you fail to condemn this - instead pretending that you do not see it. Silence is tacit agreement it seems.
     
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    It is nothing to do with Nazism to point those things out.

    Not if supporting evidence is given, which it can/has been, but you choose to ignore.
     
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    If so, then it seems that you support Zionism's brutal and illegal treatment of Palestinian child captives.
     
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    Of course not. What I do understand is that a country faced with terrorism carried out by adolescents faces some difficulty as to how to approach it and may act with a strong hand which surely gives rise to abuse. Then again from their point of view they are under attack. Chicken egg. Terrorism/Reprisals/Reprisals/Terrorism. It is a spiral that both sides contribute to.
     
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    Yes you tube evidence. :crazy:
     
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    Don't talk such nonsense. The Zionists are invaders and occupiers. You speak as if they have a right to occupy Palestine and that Palestinians who resist are criminal.
     
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    And you fail to recognize that they feel differently. So, instead of looking forward you'd like them to "go home" except that is not what the rest of the world expects them to do either. No one in their right mind does. As long as Hamas has a right to commit acts of violence on civilians, then Israel will be justifed in acting against that. Yes that impass is where you are happy for them to be. The reality is that Israel has a right to exist as does Palestine - EU position. Both have to accept that. Seems that you do not, so don't be surprised if you fail to further their cause and come across as a terrorist sympathiser instead.
     
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    Oh, so you think that others should consider the ' feelings ' of international criminals, occupiers , thieves and murderers. This sounds like the product of a brain on its third washing cycle.
     
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    Well it is in the best interests of both parties who live on the land and believe it is theirs to listen to the other party or chose to be right and live in mysery. Their choice. Being pragmatic as I am, I choose to listen. It is called cutting off your nose to spite your face. But feel free to ask your brothers to fight for it all and die for it. From the comfort of your armchair and from behind a piano.
     
  20. Jack Napier

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    Okay, younger than you then.

    Or you are older than me.

    Like I say, it is moot to the point, since it is you that tends to most cite the elderly in a derogatory manner, not I. For I realise that getting old is something none of us, not even you, can avoid, and it does not make them lesser, as they get older. That sort of outlook is what leads to abuses of the elderly in care homes, someone seeing them as not mattering as much..
     
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    Up to and including their routine sexual abuse, and torture?

    Of being handed totally disproportionate 'sentences', for allegedly throwing a stone, at a tank?

    Of the military jury also including, yes, would you believe it(no!), settlers.

    These things are all against international law, even having child prisoners is against International Law.

    When you add that to all else, I would say that they are better candidates for hard sanctions than Iran are, and more so that S Africa were.

    These things are not done by a few bad apples, you know.

    They have systematically dehumanised over one million people.

    It's not good.

    Things will change. If they go too far, I fear that what you term 'anti semitism' will be the mainstream position.

    Do not think it cannot happen, every action has an opposite reaction.

    But I happen to think that Jews in Israel will go on, as they have always done, putting two fingers up to the world, and not abiding by international law and the Geneva Convention.

    They do not know when or how to stop, and even when the entire world unites to condemn their actions, they are both to ignorant and too arrogant, to take heed.

    If I were a Jew, I would be demanding that Israel do the opposite of everything they do, and hope it is enough.
     
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    Liebe, this is 2012.

    Not 1742.

    It is entirely fine to show moving pictures.

    It is not satanic.
     
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    But why do you even care how the invader feels?

    I am sure that you and Mr Liebe, were out at a sausage restaurant tonight, and came home to find people had moved into your house, you would not be thinking of how the freaking occupier of your house felt about the deal.

    Would you?
     
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    Except there's always been Jews in Palestine, and they asked the British for self-determination after the Ottoman Empire broke-up. Palestinian Jews used to be a term, but they've now all but been absorbed into "Israelis". They are every bit as indigenous as the Palestinians, as in fact, the two groups are cousins.

    Only a little over 1/3 of the Jewish population came from Europe, for as I said, half the population were refugees from around the Middle East, kicked out of the surrounding Arabs nations after Israel won the 1948 war.
     
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    Make that the "joo". I feel dirty saying that.
     

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