New Details - Bin Laden's Death

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  1. Saifudeen

    Saifudeen New Member

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    Navy SEAL in raid that killed Osama Bin Laden reveals the truth
    A FIRSTHAND account of the Navy SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden contradicts previous official accounts and raises questions as to whether the terror mastermind presented a clear threat when SEALs first fired upon him.

    Bin Laden apparently was hit in the head when he looked out of his bedroom door into the top-floor hallway of his compound as SEALs rushed up a narrow stairwell in his direction, according to former Navy SEAL Matt Bissonnette, writing under the pseudonym Mark Owen in No Easy Day.

    The book is to be published next week by Penguin Group's Dutton imprint.

    Bissonnette says he was directly behind a "point man" going up the stairs. "Less than five steps" from top of the stairs, he heard "suppressed" gunfire: "BOP. BOP." The point man had seen a "man peeking out of the door" on the right side of the hallway.

    The author writes that bin Laden ducked back into his bedroom and the SEALs followed, only to find the terrorist crumpled on the floor in a pool of blood with a hole visible on the right side of his head and two women wailing over his body.

    Bissonnette says the point man pulled the two women out of the way and shoved them into a corner and he and the other SEALs trained their guns' laser sites on bin Laden's still-twitching body, shooting him several times until he lay motionless. The SEALs later found two weapons stored by the doorway, untouched, the author said.

    In the account related by administration officials after the raid in Pakistan, the SEALs shot bin Laden only after he ducked back into the bedroom because they assumed he might be reaching for a weapon.

    White House spokesman Tommy Vietor would not comment on the apparent contradiction. But he said in an email, "As President Obama said on the night that justice was brought to Osama bin Laden, 'We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country."'

    No Easy Day was due out September 11, but Dutton announced the book would be available a week early, September 4, because of a surge of orders due to advance publicity that drove the book to the top of the Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.com best-seller lists.

    In another possibly uncomfortable revelation for US officials who say bin Laden's body was treated with dignity before being given a full Muslim burial at sea, the author reveals that in the cramped helicopter flight out of the compound, one of the SEALs called "Walt" was sitting on bin Laden's chest as the body lay at the author's feet in the middle of the cabin.

    The publisher says the author used pseudonyms for all the SEALs.

    Bissonnette also writes disparagingly that none of the SEALs were fans of President Barack Obama and knew that his administration would take credit for ordering the May 2011 raid. One of the SEALs said after the mission that they had just gotten Obama re-elected by carrying out the raid.

    But he says they respected him as commander in chief and for giving the operation the go-ahead.

    Bissonnette writes less flatteringly of meeting Vice President Joe Biden along with Obama at the headquarters of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment after the raid. He says Biden told "lame jokes" no one understood, reminding him of "someone's drunken uncle at Christmas dinner".

    Beyond such embarrassing observations, US officials fear the book may include classified information, as it did not undergo the formal review required by the Pentagon for works published by former or current Defense Department employees.

    Officials from the Pentagon and the CIA, which commanded the mission, are examining the manuscript for possible disclosure of classified information and could take legal action against the author.

    In a statement provided to The Associated Press, the author says he did "not disclose confidential or sensitive information that would compromise national security in any way".

    Bissonnette's real name was first revealed by Fox News and confirmed to The Associated Press.

    Jihadists on al-Qaida websites have posted purported photos of the author, calling for his murder.


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    At the very least, from the very beginning I was skeptical about Bin Laden's body being given a fully Islamic burial at sea. Especially seeing as though an Islamic burial cannot even happen at sea (as we do have a very specific way, in which we are buried.) So someone sitting on Bin Laden's chest before he was dumped in the ocean doesn't really come as a big surprise to me.

    I still don't understand why they would just discard the body, though...
     
  2. Anachronism

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    Discarding the body was likely done simply to ensure that there was no way the militants could use the burial site as a rallying point or a destination for pilgrimage. It's a means of making a psychological attack on the militants while at the same time removing the possibility of them using the body/burial site for psychiological warfare.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    So former Navy SEAL Matt Bissonnette states that he didn't actually see the shooting but is willing to state what happened apparently based upon what others told him? Not very convincing to me. Of note if bin Ladin wasn't doing anything that could be interpreted as a threat then his killing would be a case of murder under international and US law and the Navy Seal responsible would be subject to prosecution. Is that what Bissonnette is implying in his book? A member of the US military cannot kill a person that offers no resistance to being captured.
     
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    Under that logic sniping would be illegal unless the soldier was actively firing.
     
  5. Anachronism

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    Sorry, I don't think the killing of an animal is considered murder, even under international law. Since all non-Americans are animals, this could not have been murder.
     
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    No, a sniper cannot exercise control over the individual that's the target.
     
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    Well, if not for Obama this story wouldnt exist cuz Bin Laden would still be alive...
     
  8. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    If obama wasn't a hypocrite it probably wouldn't have happened you mean. And yeah, of course, let's give all credit to Obama and ignore the ground work that was laid out by Bush.
     
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    Please.
    You're calling a U.S. Navy Seal a liar?
    They can use the same logic police do when they shoot someone..."I feared for my life..I thought he might have a weapon". Bin Laden wasn't an active military enemy combatant. He was a known terrorist responsible for the deaths of a couple thousand U.S. citizens. The rules of engagement probably said "dead or alive" and the Geneva Convention rules don't apply to terrorists.

    File a lawsuit against the U.S. Navy, the Dept. of Defense, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and president soetoro if you don't like it....

    I'm sure there was "invidious racism" involved, too, right? :roll:
     
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    Your not going to get any sympathy from most Americans on this. Only the ones who completely hate their country, yet still live within its boarders at least. I don't care how he was killed or how he was buried, all I care is that he is dead and we can say that we killed him. He had declared war on the United States, to me, that makes him a legitimate target weather he was resisting or not.
     
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    I don't care weather he was a threat or not doesnt matter. I'm glad they killed him. He's responsible for thousands of american deaths.
     
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    There is nothing worth to keep secret in "Operation Geronimo". Yet, the Pentagon had nothing hard to prove they killed Bin Laden. There was no corpse, no picture. What they could do is from time to time let out a different information of "witness say".

    A four less operation.

    1. Corpse less – They say they dropped it into sea.

    2. Picture less – They let you imagine by yourself with this picture.

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    3. Witness less – Navy Seals died twice in helicopter crash

    (1) [​IMG]

    May 1, Abbottabad

    (2) August 6, 2011 5:11 AM
    22 Navy SEALs dead in Afghan chopper crash

    4. Site less – No clue could be tracked any more on site

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    are you trying to say they never even got osama??
     
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    Bin Laden died soon after the 911. The Feds keep it a secret because they need a false flag to continue the "war on terror".

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    This CBS Report suggests that Osama bin Laden had been admitted to a Pakistani Military hospital in Rawalpindi on the evening of the 10th local time, less than 24 hours before the terrorist attacks.

    The report does not mention when he was actually released.

    The Pakistani military headquarters located in Rawalpindi is integrated by resident US military and intelligence advisers, who routinely report to Washington. If this report is correct, this suggests that the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden on September 11 were known to the Bush Administration.

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    Bin Laden Whereabouts Before 9/11


    CBS Evening News with Dan Rather; Author: Dan Rather, Barry Petersen


    CBS, 28 January 2002

    Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), globalresearch.ca , 28 March 2002

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CBS203A.html


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    They did have a raid. Killed a local Pakistan to cheat people that is Bin Laden. So they also planned two helicopter crashes to kill the witness. (Navy seals)


    That's Not Osama bin Laden, That's My Neighbour

    [video=youtube;_ixrT01Hnec]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ixrT01Hnec[/video]
     
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    That's a old propaganda and unfair to an asset who had worked for the US.

     
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    Only asset of the government went out to confirm.

     
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    Bin Laden denied involvement in 911 in the interview. US mainstream media censored this news.

    The Osama bin Laden Myth

    Paul Craig Roberts
    November 26, 2012|

    The interview below with Osama bin Laden was conducted by the Karachi, Pakistan, daily newspaper, Ummat and published on September 28, 2001, 17 days after the alleged, but unsubstantiated, al Qaeda attack of September 11, 2001, on the World Trade Center twin towers and Pentagon. The interview was sensational. The alleged “mastermind” of 9/11 said that he and al Qaeda had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack. The British Broadcasting Corporation’s World Monitoring Service had the interview translated into English and made public on September 29, 2001.

    Osama bin Laden’s sensational denial was not reported by the US print and TV media. It was not investigated by the executive branch. No one in the US Congress called attention to bin Laden’s refusal of responsibility for the greatest humiliation ever inflicted on a superpower.

    To check my memory of the lack of coverage, I googled “Osama bin Laden’s interview denying responsibility for 9/11.” Some Internet sites reproduced the interview, but the only mainstream news source that I found was a 1 minute YouTube video from CNN in which the anchor, after quoting an al Jazeera report of bin Laden’s denial, concludes that “we can all weigh that in the scale of credibility and come to our own conclusions.” In other words, bin Laden had already been demonized, and his denial was not credible.

    The sensational news was unfit for US citizens and was withheld from them by the american “free press,” a press free to lie for the government but not to tell the truth.

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/11/26/the-osama-bin-laden-myth-2/
     

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