new growing pressure from public about obama birth certificate

Robert Bauer is the head criminal in this birthcertificategate.
i'd been saying this. that flea circus was april 27th 2011, coming on two years. a date that will live in infamy.





i know...



The speech's "infamy" line is often misquoted as "a day that will live in infamy". However, Roosevelt quite deliberately chose to emphasize the date—December 7, 1941—rather than the day of the attack, a Sunday, which he mentioned only in the last line when he said, "...Sunday, December 7th, 1941,...". He sought to emphasize the historic nature of the events at Pearl Harbor, implicitly urging the American people never to forget the attack and memorialize its date. Ironically, the misquoted term "day of infamy" has become widely used by the media to refer to any moment of supreme disgrace or evil.[

 

Yeah, we know.

 

i posted this ??

 

No I posted "Yeah, we know"

 

have you read the meno suranis ?? it's a lovely dialog.

Then right opinion is not less useful than knowledge?

 

I have a degree in Philosophy and a degree in Greek and Roman civilization, and there is more to a Platonic dialogue than one stupid line. Not to mention that according to the discussion in the Meno, clinging to something despite all evidence to the contrary is not a true belief, and beliefs must be tethered to evidence, hence birtherism is actually the opposite of a Platonic true belief. Of course that leads into the theory of forms and other Classical theory's you don't have a clue about.

Glad to see you are a Platonist though as Plato was in favour of wealth redistribution, and in the Republic called the inequality of wealth as the leading cause of the end of Republics.

 

a couple of things:

i'd forgotten how you make up quotes and attribute them to me.

you assume/infer that i am a platonist. because i asked if you read the meno ?

you're getting ahead of yourself, and less rational to converse.

you know what steve martin said about philoshophy in college, they teach you just enough to screw you up for the rest of your life.

did it cause you to be condescending, that's an obot necessary trait, you know.

 

The place you keep linking to started it. And what I'm doing is correcting you, saying what you really mean. That's why they are colored in RED. Anyone can look up the page and see what you really typed anyway.

Uh huh. So that changes the fact that you got the meaning of the Meno completely backwards, how?

Its a trait everyone that has ever had the misfortune of dealing with you develops. That's why you are a lonely miserable soul.

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The place you keep linking to started it. And what I'm doing is correcting you, saying what you really mean. That's why they are colored in RED. Anyone can look up the page and see what you really typed anyway.

Uh huh. So that changes the fact that you got the meaning of the Meno completely backwards, how?

Its a trait everyone that has ever had the misfortune of dealing with you develops. That's why you are a lonely miserable soul.

 

oh surrendis. how much did you pay for that philosophy degree. you are quaint if but not endearing as far as you know.

 

Oh Spot!

 

why don't you respond to what i write, be yourself, no matter what they say.

[video=youtube;qD1rvLPmiKA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD1rvLPmiKA[/video]

 

Well come on between his spunk reference to Orly and his constant groans and "awws" when he had no answer.

at the end of the show ?? man that chick was disgusting... no class at all.
sounds as if someone could stand to pitch a little woo.... lol

 

time to revist some old standards and goodies....



Sequoia32
Post subject: Reality Check Radio
PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:43 pm



from the fogbow:

That Scott Erlandson is a slithery, slimy, smarmy creep.
It sounded from the ooohs and aaahs that he was... um... pleasuring himself... I guess he gets off on lying.

and:

I figured out the other day what Scott Erlandson is:
An epistemological anarchist.


and surannis:

No that "Aww" was him using Alinsky tactics to try and rile us up through ridicule.
I'm not kidding.

I think it should be "he" using alinsky tactics, not "him"
whatever....



two years of attacking me for not drinking the koolaid d'obamavich...

i'll ask again, why all this vehemence for a non issue....?? hmmm, I still wonder why. and i'm the hater here right ??


this tells me I must be doing something right..... incidentally, when I pleasure myself, I would never do that on radio free fogbow... or any other public forum, just not my thing.... exhibitionism that is...... that's just too personal ...... but I think some of those bots could be voyeurs.... lol

 

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document’s validity. [The one she saw, not the one on the internet!] She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

 

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/05/obamas-purported-kenyan-birth.html



are there any forensic podiatrists in the house ?? lol

this actually goes along with my hunch that Obama is two years older than we think, and brings into play Hawaiian statehood at the time.

i'm so glad we have this place, "conspiracy theories" in miscellaneous other.

remember the court mantra, if a witness tells one lie, they might tell another. I am suggesting that with the advent of other 0bamas scandal, all of the previous ones suspect, are indeed worth revisiting.

 

http://obamaballotchallenge.com/luc...obama-kenyan-birth-certificate-relevant-facts

awesome...

 

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Lead Investigator Lt. Mike Zullo.

“We have obtained an affidavit from a certified document analyzer, Reed Hayes, that states the document is a 100 percent forgery, no doubt about it,” said Cold Case Posse Lead Investigator Lt. Mike Zullo in an exclusive interview with WorldTribune.

This is a key development, asserts Lt. Zullo, because Mr. Hayes is a certified handwriting analyst and forensic document examiner who worked repeatedly for Perkins Coie, a reputable law firm, and was deemed a dependable professional in their legal cases. Moreover, Perkins Coie has defended Mr. Obama in his legal jousts on the birth certificate matter over the past five years.

“Mr. Obama’s operatives cannot discredit him,” said Lt. Zullo. “Mr. Hayes has been used as the firm’s reliable expert. The very firm the president is using to defend him on the birth certificate case has used Mr. Hayes in their cases.” In addition, Mr. Hayes is a Democrat whose business is based in Hawaii. He cannot easily be accused of having a political axe to grind in this matter, explains Lt. Zullo.

Mr. Hayes initially agreed to simply take a cursory look at the document. Yet, within one hour, he called Lt. Zullo. “There is something wrong with this,” said Mr. Hayes.

A few weeks later, the expert, who has over 20 years of experience and has authored five books on his craft, presented a detailed 40-page report with a stark assessment: “…based on my observations and findings, it is clear that the Certificate of Live Birth I examined is not a scan of an original paper birth certificate, but a digitally manufactured document created by utilizing material from various sources,” writes Mr. Hayes. “In over 20 years of examining documentation of various types, I have never seen a document that is so seriously questionable in so many respects. In my opinion, the birth certificate is entirely fabricated,” states Mr. Hayes.

The report by Mr. Hayes is now an affidavit that belongs to the Cold Case Posse and cannot be retracted, regardless of any political or social pressure he encounters, explains Lt. Zullo.

“There has been a very effective media campaign to discredit anyone who tries to work with us,” said Lt. Zullo. “It is impossible to discuss this issue without being lambasted.”

Those who defend Mr. Obama say inquiries into the president’s birth certificate are based on conspiracy theories; these are “birthers,” they insist, who simply refuse to accept the credible evidence presented by Mr. Obama.

As a precaution against others misusing or manipulating Mr. Hayes’s report, Lt. Zullo has copyrighted it.

Mr. Hayes’s report has provided yet another certification — among a resounding 1,200 computer software tests undertaken by Lt. Zullo’s team — that demonstrates, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the long-form birth certificate has been fabricated. Lt. Zullo appointed two reputable computer science professionals, working independently of one another, to examine the long-form birth certificate. Both experts confirmed the document is inauthentic.

“Somebody made this,” said Lt. Zullo, referring to the long-form birth certificate as a nine-layer, computer-generated PDF document. “Someone spent days doing this.”

“The recreation of an official document is a crime,” said Lt. Zullo. “Either there is no original birth certificate or there is something in the original that is being concealed.”

The Maricopa County Cold Case Posse consists of an all-volunteer unit of accomplished individuals with experience in criminal investigations and legal professionals working under the law enforcement authority and direction of Sheriff Arpaio.

Sheriff Arpaio asked Lt. Zullo in August, 2011 to quickly quell the concerns of about 250 citizens who asked for an investigation. Yet, to his dismay, Lt. Zullo was unable to do so, having concluded within five days of his work that the document was compromised. He has since traveled to eleven states in eleven months, relying on public donations, on a grueling campaign to gather information about the certificate.

He filed an affidavit on May 14, 2013 to the Supreme Court of Alabama chronicles much of the evidence he has compiled thus far. In particular, he depicts a two-day meeting of investigators, attorneys, and information technology professionals, including Mara Zebest, a nationally recognized computer expert.

“All in attendance agreed unanimously that the White House computer image .pdf file contained anomalies that were unexplainable unless the document had been fabricated piecemeal by human intervention, rather than being copied from a genuine paper document,” states the affidavit.

The Cold Case Posse has determined that the certificate of live birth the White House presented is not a photocopy of an original document but one that “was pieced together electronically from multiple sources,” according to the affidavit. The registrar’s signature stamp and date stamp are from different layers of the document and are imports from other sources.

“The fact that the stamps can be picked up and moved about the document leaving a white background…is evidence enough of tampering,” states the affidavit.

During our interview, Lt. Zullo narrated his encounter in Hawaii on May 21, 2012 with Deputy Attorney General Jill Nagamine, who after repeated questions, failed to confirm the document released by the president is the same as any that might exist in their records.



“If you make a copy of your driver’s license and alter it, is it still a copy?” asked Lt. Zullo. She did not directly answer the question, and instead replied: “But you still have a driver’s license.” She agreed to confirm only specific items on a list, not that the document the White House produced is identical to any in the Hawaii archives. This incident “sent all the alarm bells ringing,” said Lt. Zullo.

“If an official document is altered in any way, it must be stated that it is an amended version,” said Lt. Zullo. “Failure to do so is a crime.”

The Cold Case Posse continues to gather evidence. The current report, consisting of 300 pages and likely to balloon to 400, will soon be delivered to Congress.

“We can’t send it to the Department of Justice for obvious reasons,” said Lt. Zullo, referring to the lack of credibility of current Attorney General Eric Holder who has been embroiled in multiple scandals, and is accused by leading Republicans of lying to the American people.

“I am working on this 24/7,” said Lt. Zullo. He has endured long hours on the case, under intense pressure from Obama administration operatives and supporters who seek to discredit Lt. Zullo and anyone who cooperates with the investigation.

When I asked why he persists, he replied, in the terms of a devoted officer of the law:
“I know it’s a felony.”

“The entire United States has been defrauded by a document that is usually automatically issued to every person in America. This is a blatant manipulation. If President Obama can’t be honest about his birth certificate, he can’t be honest about anything,” Lt. Zullo said.

“The original ‘birther’ is President Barack Obama himself,” said former Deputy Sheriff of Florida County and current talk-show host Carl Gallups in an interview with WorldTribune.

“It was Barack Obama who said for 16 years, along with his publisher that he was ‘Kenyan born,’” said Mr. Gallups, referring to the promotional materials for Mr. Obama’s book by his literary agency Dystel & Goderich prior to his presidential election that referred to him as having been “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia.” Mr. Obama’s bio was changed on the agency’s website in April, 2007, stating he was born in Hawaii. When Breitbart News broke this story, Miriam Goderich issued a press release stating that “a fact-checking error” occurred while she worked as an agency assistant. In other words, for sixteen years, the “error” had gone undetected.

Mr. Gallups, host of Freedom Friday, a pastor for 30 years, author of the Amazon best seller The Magic Man in the Sky, is now the premier media reporter covering the investigation. He has been given a unique position of trust and confidentiality in the case due to his extensive law enforcement background. Mr. Gallups also accompanied Lt. Zullo to CPAC and Capitol Hill earlier this year in order to present the evidence to politicians.

“Barack Obama has not been vetted,” said Mr. Gallups. “It is the responsibility of Congress to determine the eligibility of any candidate to hold office. The Senate examined whether Senator John McCain was qualified to run for president and concluded that he was. Yet, no one has done the same for Mr. Obama.”

Mr. Gallups explained that he, like most Americans who first hear about this, assume someone, somewhere has determined that a candidate running for office, especially the highest office in the land, has documents that have been thoroughly examined. “Yet, the procedure to run for office is for a political party to endorse a candidate,” said Mr. Gallups. “The Democratic National Committee determined that Mr. Obama was eligible. Once a party endorses a candidate, the individual states are not required to do any examination. The only other agency required to do the vetting is the Electoral College. But in this case, they did not do so either.”

“Everyone feared a public backlash of some kind,” explains Mr. Gallups of attempts to thoroughly vet Mr. Obama prior to 2008. Yet, based on his expert analysis as a former law enforcement officer, the long-form birth certificate document is indeed a fabrication.

“From the beginning, I have always said, as a law enforcement officer and patriot, if I can be proven wrong, I will back down, will declare my mistake and apologize.” He has issued numerous public challenges for anyone with credible evidence to come forward.

“This is not fun; it is not easy,” he said. “I have been marginalized and insulted simply for stating the truth of the matter. As a patriot, ex-cop, father and grandfather, I know what I know. Please prove me wrong. I will back away.”

Mr. Gallups echoes the sentiment of many who have looked at the evidence: initial dismissal, then shock, disbelief, an assumption that it is all a mistake that will quickly be debunked and then the horror of concluding that the certificate Mr. Obama has presented is fake.

What many in the media fail to grasp is that so-called “birthers” would rather be wrong than right. It is more upsetting for many of them to believe that this kind of crime can be committed than that it was not.

The difference between a conspiracy theory and a crime is that a conspiracy theory cannot stand against the test of forensic evidence. Those who dismiss this investigation as merely “kooky” must answer these questions: Are leading experts in their field who have provided their professional assessment to a criminal investigation merely to be ignored?

Why would these experts risk their reputation and also commit perjury? It is therefore kookier to disregard these assessments summarily than to view them with an unbiased eye.

The evidence currently being accumulated by the Cold Case Posse requires consideration. It is time for Congress to do its constitutional duty and examine all this hard evidence in the clear light of day.

Grace Vuoto is the Editor of Politics and Culture at World Tribune, host of American Heartland with Dr. Grace on WTSB Radio and is the founder of the Edmund Burke Institute for American Renewal.

 

Yes Arpiao's cold case posse and his boot licking toadie (blt) Zullo.

What I find amazing is that there are peope who can actually dress themselves who believe this crap.

 

Did you notice that Zullo now claims to have copyrighted the Hayes "report?"

He seems afraid of "The Annotated Hayes" that is probably in his future.

 

Not only 'copyrighted" what he claims is evidence- rather than giving it to law enforcement- but has hidden the evidence- the author is forbidden to discuss it.

Birthers- still milking the gullible for every scheckel that they can get.

 

hi frank... I hope so. don't forget the names of any special police you talk to...

 

It's the same reason the Nigerian e-mail scam persists after almost 20 years. There are still enough total cretins / credulous birthers to keep it worthwhile.

Try for example this blast-from-the-past

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_PV-Ptjag&feature=player_embedded

It's dated July 4, 2012. And it is almost indistinguishable from he stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) Carl Gallups and Mike Zullo are saying a year later. They're still insisting that they are perched right on the cusp of all their "work" finally bringing the President down. Send money.

At the end Gallups says, "Folks, hang on. It's going to be a hot, hot summer."

No mention of the weather in autumn, winter, spring or the other summer that have since followed.

 

Amazing how they keep up this nonsense, isn't it? American extremists are unbelievably weird!

 

reminds me of the 0bama administrations' "summer of recovery". hey everything's great America... million dollar/night whitehouse eleganzas... there's nothing wrong with this country at all, the tides stopped rising, and the world is finally at peace. what a great leader from behind. "just go on to your porch and empty both barrels, you'll be fine"...

oh frank, who's writing the sure to B epic "annotated wonky kim historian dude" ?? will this ever end... my icon is laughing harder than your icon...

 

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