New Jersey state trooper shot at unarmed teens after they knocked on his door

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  1. contrails

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    New Jersey state trooper shot at unarmed teens after they mistakenly knocked on his door: officials

    Another example of law enforcement allowing a situation to get out of control. Why isn't training on conflict resolution mandatory for all police officers?
     
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    heh at 2am they knocked on this guys door for a party?

    did they not notice the lights were out, no other cars were parked in the drive-way or street?

    police helicopters and dogs were used to track them down, did they not think a guy shooting at them was reason to call 911 screaming for help?

    this story just stinks with lack of information...

    they said they were "dropping off friends" AFTER a party, so the friend didn't know which house he lived at? and told his friends the wrong house to drop him off at?

    why were they knocking on a door at 2am if they were dropping a friend off?

    you see how the story written, and the person interviewed for it don't even come close to matching up stories?!?!

    nothing from the "victim" is matching up with the "journalists" story... so which one is telling the truth?
     
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    When people try to break into your home you blow them the (*)(*)(*)(*) away.
     
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    Where is the evidence of that? Looks like this cop is in serious trouble.
     
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    I guess the part where he claims they allegedly tried to run him over with their car before he fired (and struck the tire of the car, which aren't we told cops should shoot the tires out all the time??) Isn't important enough and/or gets in the way of the anti LEO agenda huh?
     
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    nobody was confronted

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    that was probably a cover lie wasnt it?
     
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    I don't know how it is called in the USA, but when I was a kid, we made much nonsense as all. One was to make a play where you knock on peoples door and ring the bell and then running away and hiding ... and having fun to see the annoyed people.
    I think this play is then in the US probably a dangerous issue for kids to make ...
     
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    Are you saying that the State Trooper and police are leftists? They were the ones calling this a burglary, after all.
     
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    To be at risk of being run over, he would have to be in the street, correct? If the kids ran away from the house, then there was no more threat to him or his property, so what would he be doing in the street? This is what I call bad conflict management on his part.
     
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    So the fact that nobody was actually trying to break into this home doesn't matter to you?
     
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    Try reading my post again. Only slower.
     
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    He's an officer of the law, they have an instinct, and duty (even when "off duty") to respond to a crime occurring in their presence, in this case chasing multiple subjects he suspected of attempting to break into his home.

    Bottom line here is, take your MMQB of cops in situations you weren't present for somewhere else.

    Biased hacks who hold press passes have ZERO credibility when it comes to "reporting" LE related news.
     
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    You think running into the street and firing at them was a reasonable response to someone pounding on your door in the middle of the night?
     
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    You asked if mistaken knocking is what leftists call burglary now, when the only ones calling it burglary were the police. If I am misunderstanding your post, then try rewording it, only clearer.
     
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    Police officers are also trained how to recognize when an actual crime is being committed and when they are in immediate danger. Even if he mistook the teens actions as an attempted break-in, once they ran off his property, he was in no immediate danger. Pursuing them into the street only put himself back in danger. Had they been real criminals, there is a good chance he could have been killed.
     
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    No, we play those same games. We actually used to call it (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)-knocking, although we never actually targeted any specific races. Now I hear it's called Ding-Dong Dash. Anyway, we're not as pyscho gun crazy as some people would lead you to believe. Most people are actually pretty easy-going, even when getting nigg--I mean, Din-Dong Dashed.
     
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    Agreed. This story reeks of attempted robbery.
     
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    While I agree that the officer shouldn't have pursued the teens down the street opening fire, I wouldn't be so quick to assume with a story with this many holes in it, that the teens are not real criminals.
     
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    How do you know that?
     
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    Luckly, the teens involved survived the incident and are able to tell their side of the story. Then there is the fact that police declined to file charges against the teens after hours of questioning.

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    Because nobody has ever heard of teenagers trying to roust a friend out of bed after partying until 2AM. Right...

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    They were questioned by police for several hours. If there was any evidence that they were real criminals, they would be sitting in jail awaiting trial.
     
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    Oh, pulllease!

    If ANY of this kids had had a SINGLE infraction or blot on their records, they all would have been jail!


    Its incredible to me that so many people think a whackjob blasting a gun down a residential street in the dark without the slightest idea of who he is shooting at while the kids are running away is a "good thing"!

    Someone like this who is supposedly a firearm professional should be banned from ever in a Law Enforcement position.

    Attempted murder wouldn't be inappropriate either. This guy learned nothing about the situation before going to kill people who had no threat. Innumerable families and roomates have shout and killed roommates, boyfriends and their own kids doing this kind of killing!

    These incidents don't even rise higher than local news. "Nothing to see here"!

    Its fun to go to http://accidentalgunshots.tumblr.com/ to see the massive list of DAILY shootings! Be safe!! :lol:

     

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